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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
If everyone has a tactical rock, are they still tactical?



#DeepThoughts

If everyone has them, they’re strategic rocks.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
As much as I dislike nitpicking about Space Marine height, I regret this digression even more now.

For anyone concerned about the matter of the new Corvus being too hench, I suggest purchasing some Mk6 Tactical Podiums, as seen here:



See? Everyone's happy and the Lieutenant can still be told apart at 400 paces, to the delight of enemy snipers everywhere.

What model is that on the tactical rock?

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
If everyone has a tactical rock, are they still tactical?



#DeepThoughts

If everyone has them, they’re strategic rocks.

Nah, they'd be standard issue rocks.
The top brass just really likes rocks. It has nothing to do with generous "donations" from rock manufacturers.

Quasistellar wrote:


What model is that on the tactical rock?

Rogue Trader era marine, probably more than a head shorter than the 2022 types.

Quasistellar wrote:


What model is that on the tactical rock?

http://www.solegends.com/citcat19892suml/c89suml-070119-1-01.htm

Looks like a RT era assault marine with force sword.

Well, at least my Ltd ed metal reaction tokens shipped!

Still about 7 more days until the big box itself arrives though..

Are you Alpharius? Am I?

Here's a WIP of my first 5 Mk VI Alpha Legion marines:

 Slinky wrote:
Are you Alpharius? Am I?

Here's a WIP of my first 5 Mk VI Alpha Legion marines:

Sweet!

Hope mine turn out as well.

Quasistellar wrote:
What model is that on the tactical rock?

He's a very, very old Space Marine officer armed with a particularly strange looking sword. It looks kind of normal from the side profile, but the blade is flanged out to this strange broad shape by the hilt.

According to the sacred texts, his name is "Captain Reece"

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Rogue Trader era marine, probably more than a head shorter than the 2022 types.

you are correct. I have a scale shot somewhere and he's pretty petite.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
He's a very, very old Space Marine officer armed with a particularly strange looking sword. It looks kind of normal from the side profile, but the blade is flanged out to this strange broad shape by the hilt.

It is only strange if all you're familiar with are western swords: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris

Big box of stuff today (21 pounds, according to the label).
Everything present and intact, but the Kratos and Deimos boxes were badly beaten (though not the sprues), because the warehouse guys didn't know how to pack ~350 page shelf breakers next to light cardboard and plastic. A couple layers of heavy paper were not really sufficient.

So... I have some required reading to do. And a lot of things to assemble.

 Slinky wrote:
Are you Alpharius? Am I?

Here's a WIP of my first 5 Mk VI Alpha Legion marines:

Looks nice.

May I ask what your recipe was for the armour?

Unfortunately I only recently got back into 40K, so I don't have any older Marines for comparison.

That's a good comparison really. Everything there looks right to me.

 maccrage wrote:
Unfortunately I only recently got back into 40K, so I don't have any older Marines for comparison.

Thanks. Is that the baneblade commander? What size base are the primaris and mk6 on?

 warboss wrote:

 maccrage wrote:
Unfortunately I only recently got back into 40K, so I don't have any older Marines for comparison.

Thanks. Is that the baneblade commander? What size base are the primaris and mk6 on?

Yes. 32mm I think. Whatever comes standard with the Marines now.

 Irbis wrote:
[quote=Agamemnon2 805504 11384643
It is only strange if all you're familiar with are western swords: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris

I am familiar with the kris and no, that's not it at all. That's not what I meant at all. The tip and middle of the blade are normal, but the third of it closest to the handle doesn't widen, it thickens, into what I can only describe as a weird slab, it has no cutting edge at all in that section.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Rogue Trader era marine, probably more than a head shorter than the 2022 types.

you are correct. I have a scale shot somewhere and he's pretty petite.

"I recognize the sound of it being poured"

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That's a good comparison really. Everything there looks right to me.

The sticking point when comparing them with oldmarines (other than height, which I feel is almost irrelevant) are proportions.

If you put them side by side, it's clear how much they have tweaked proportions:



Most obvious on the legs, of course, but also the torso and the heads. It is definitely noticeable side by side, but I can't deny that the new proportions look much more organic.

I'm curious to see how Mk7s will look in the same proportion. It's inevitable that someone in the community will scale them up, embiggening them to match the new Mk6s.

The series 1 Heroes models are very close to the new scale in Mark VII.

I made & posted this here a while ago, but the interest seems to be persistent. This should answer all questions:



More comparisons with Cataphractii & other Terminators in my Age of Darkness review: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/06/review-the-horus-heresy-age-of-darkness-launch-set-2/

 arkhanist wrote:
The series 1 Heroes models are very close to the new scale in Mark VII.

Ah, I'd quite forgotten about them. Alas, they're very hard to come by reasonably these days, so I don't own any. Almost all the ones on ebay are in the UK, and postage from there is so extortionately expensive post-Brexit that it's not worth it anymore.

Now that more people have the kits, could someone post a clear comparison pic of a Praetor next to the Primaris (and perhaps a beakie as well.) It seems to me that the Preators a re quite a bit chunkier than the basic beakies, but I'd like to see how they compare to the Primaris.

It is a bit unfortunate how titchy and disproportionate the Mk IV look now.

I really wonder if that might get redone sooner than we think.

The axe praetor is fething huge. I honestly keep thinking he's a terminator he's that bulky. I haven't put mine together yet though, so I can't help you i'm afraid.


stahly - Great comparison photos. Thanks for that!


Crimson - From stahly's blog.




Like I said... Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.

 The Phazer wrote:
It is a bit unfortunate how titchy and disproportionate the Mk IV look now.

I really wonder if that might get redone sooner than we think.

I expect we will get more plastic Mk4 infantry, but they won't be tactical squads, but rather some of the specialist troops it will make sense for GW to move away from resin. So the hypothetical plastic breachers, assault squads or destroyer squads could show up wearing Mk3 or Mk4. I feel it would be a mistake for them to just spend so much design and machine time in producing variants of one unit - even if these hypothetical Mk4+ tacticals would presumably be compatible with the new special and heavy weapons sprues (the former especially could be made to work if the arms were recut to match the way the Mk6 sprues have them, although that would lock the squad to the same poses as the new beakies).

 stahly wrote:
I made & posted this here a while ago, but the interest seems to be persistent. This should answer all questions:

Spoiler:

More comparisons with Cataphractii & other Terminators in my Age of Darkness review: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/06/review-the-horus-heresy-age-of-darkness-launch-set-2/

Thank you so much! that is fantastic, as always.

 stahly wrote:
I made & posted this here a while ago, but the interest seems to be persistent. This should answer all questions:

Spoiler:

More comparisons with Cataphractii & other Terminators in my Age of Darkness review: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/06/review-the-horus-heresy-age-of-darkness-launch-set-2/

Thanks for sharing that, very useful.

Thanks for reposting that as well. Always good to have a refresher as the conversion turns up again.