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Do people here seriously expect gw to shut down fw completely?

tneva82 wrote:
Do people here seriously expect gw to shut down fw completely?

I think some people want it to happen, expecting everything in the FW catalogue to suddenly go plastic rather than everything just being binned off forever with only the more basic kits being remade in plastic.

Voss wrote:

JSG wrote:

Voss wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
It’ll be resin. They said legion specific stuff will stay resin.

Yeah, plus each of these are looking at ~1/18th the audience, so resin seems more practical. A generic praetor on the other hand...
They could have been kind and addressed the obvious question, however. There was a 0% chance that people wouldn't ask.

That was a credible excuse until they started doing plastic BL, store anniversary and event minis.

I don't know why you think so. Those are limited run models for collectors to nab if they can and scalpers to buy out on day 1 and resell. GW basically washes their hands of those immediately after they sell them.
That's very different from producing a praetor for each legion to stick around for a long term but (presumably) second tier game.

Because that argument was always based on the upfront cost of steel moulds. But fine, I'll see your moving of the goal posts and raise you plastic Kal Jericho and Scabs and various plastic BB bits and bobs.

Scottywan82 wrote:That alternate head is GRIM. I admit, my first thought was "How does he eat?"

He feeds on the endless love of She Who Thirsts.

Now this Praetor is gorgeous! This is what the praetors who came with the AoD box shoulda looked like. This sculpt respects the original Beakies Corvus armour aesthetic much better than the plastic ones, which I suspect were sculpted by a Beakies hater.

As for the AI going Horus Heresy, this is great news! The rollout towards Epic 30K is now officially underway, first AI, followed by marine on marine units later when the Epic relaunch hits us early next year. Then we'll have Titans, Knights, flyers and ground troops + vehicles. BOOOOM.

 Arbitrator wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Do people here seriously expect gw to shut down fw completely?

I think some people want it to happen, expecting everything in the FW catalogue to suddenly go plastic rather than everything just being binned off forever with only the more basic kits being remade in plastic.

Apparently Siocast is becoming a new method of casting models, as an alternative to metal and resin. Its claimed that it reduces casting time and cost, while also offering a plastic that can be recycled.

Reaper and Corvus Belli are already putting it to use and it would be interesting to see if Forgeworld follow suit. If such a technology could reduce the price of FW models then I'd be willing to put in that first order...

SamusDrake wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Do people here seriously expect gw to shut down fw completely?

I think some people want it to happen, expecting everything in the FW catalogue to suddenly go plastic rather than everything just being binned off forever with only the more basic kits being remade in plastic.

Apparently Siocast is becoming a new method of casting models, as an alternative to metal and resin. Its claimed that it reduces casting time and cost, while also offering a plastic that can be recycled.

Reaper and Corvus Belli are already putting it to use and it would be interesting to see if Forgeworld follow suit. If such a technology could reduce the price of FW models then I'd be willing to put in that first order...

Lol.

 ImAGeek wrote:


Lol.

Well, I nearly bought a pair of Arvus "little pig" Lighters. They were so damn cute that I was actually willing to pay the price but the p&p put me off.

Awesome model with the right amount of bling. Shame he is not plastic. Looks so much better than both plastic Praetors.

It's interesting to see the anger towards FW making resin HH stuff when not only was it said that all Legion-specific stuff would be staying FW but that HH has been FWs domain forever. All these spoiled children whinging that not every single thing is plastic is just sad.

Im fine with it still being resin. I just dont think that resin is worth the FW prices after all the hikes lately.

I don't have anything against forge world bar their price rises, which are atrocious. I'll see what this guy is priced at on release and adjust my plans accordingly.

A single infantry sized model from FW, guessing 60-65 bucks American?

 ScarletRose wrote:
A single infantry sized model from FW, guessing 60-65 bucks American?

$38.50 or $42, looking at the other Praetors on the US FW site.

"infantry-sized" is not exactly applicable to Praetors nowadays, given they tend to tower heads and shoulders over some of the slightly older Marine's shoulders - Marines that weren't exactly infantry-sized in the first place.

 Gert wrote:
All these spoiled children whinging that not every single thing is plastic is just sad.

Thundering across the internet in a never ending search for the ungrateful! These are the adventures of...GERT! AND THE KEYBOARD WARRIORS OF DAKKA!

One sec, I'm just calling Shuki Levy...

Removed - rule #1

 Gert wrote:
Removed - rule #1

Bless ya.

 Gert wrote:
It's interesting to see the anger towards FW making resin HH stuff when not only was it said that all Legion-specific stuff would be staying FW but that HH has been FWs domain forever. All these spoiled children whinging that not every single thing is plastic is just sad.

In contrast spending an overabundance of cash on FW products is not a sign of maturity. It´s rather the opposite.

 Strg Alt wrote:
In contrast spending an overabundance of cash on FW products is not a sign of maturity. It´s rather the opposite.

Correct it is not.
However, complaining that FW still makes kits despite being told at the very beginning of the new edition and introduction of more plastic is very much a childish thing to do. You aren't complaining about legitimate problems such as lack of products or no rules support, you're just complaining that you can't get all the things the way you want them.

Freaking love that model. Everything I had hoped an EC Praetor would be.

I hope they release it within the next 36 months

That Praetor is really pretty and I like the glaive a lot. Definitely fits the EC/Slaneeshi theme.

Looks like Lucius was available for purchase at some recent event as there's a couple on eBay being scalped for absurd amounts. I'm hoping that might mean a pre order tomorrow.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Looks like Lucius was available for purchase at some recent event as there's a couple on eBay being scalped for absurd amounts. I'm hoping that might mean a pre order tomorrow.

Don't count on it. Marduk was at the May event and still no sign of him.

Seen both quoted at being £33.50 (the FW price not the scalpers obviously).

 Gert wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:
In contrast spending an overabundance of cash on FW products is not a sign of maturity. It´s rather the opposite.

Correct it is not.
However, complaining that FW still makes kits despite being told at the very beginning of the new edition and introduction of more plastic is very much a childish thing to do. You aren't complaining about legitimate problems such as lack of products or no rules support, you're just complaining that you can't get all the things the way you want them.

Gents.

Do. Not. Ever. Tell. The. Next. Person. How. To. Spend. Their. Money.

FW is too much for me, especially given my loathing of resin. But if it makes those willing and able to indulge happy? It makes the happy, and I’m pretty they don’t give an airborne copulation at a tumbling comestible what anyone else thinks.

Don’t be That Guy.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Looks like Lucius was available for purchase at some recent event as there's a couple on eBay being scalped for absurd amounts. I'm hoping that might mean a pre order tomorrow.

Don't count on it. Marduk was at the May event and still no sign of him.

Seen both quoted at being £33.50 (the FW price not the scalpers obviously).

Aye come to think of it when I failed to get raldoron at whfest 2019 he wasn't out for ages after.
Blah. What are gw playing at? This really is a ridiculous business model.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Gert wrote:
All these spoiled children whinging that not every single thing is plastic is just sad.

Thundering across the internet in a never ending search for the ungrateful! These are the adventures of...GERT! AND THE KEYBOARD WARRIORS OF DAKKA!

One sec, I'm just calling Shuki Levy...

Now I have the Jayce & The Wheeled Warriors theme in my head...

UltraPrime wrote:


Now I have the Jayce & The Wheeled Warriors theme in my head...

Mwhahahahahahahhahaa!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Gents.

Do. Not. Ever. Tell. The. Next. Person. How. To. Spend. Their. Money.

FW is too much for me, especially given my loathing of resin. But if it makes those willing and able to indulge happy? It makes the happy, and I’m pretty they don’t give an airborne copulation at a tumbling comestible what anyone else thinks.

Don’t be That Guy.

In fairness to Gert - and I don't like being fair to Gert - he wasn't doing that.

He was just pointing out how daft it sounds to be complaining (again, and again, and again...) that FW are continuing to produce things that we've known they were going to be producing since HH2 has been a thing.

'Tis on the same level as the people who whine about BB Star Players, or Necromunda hangers-on, etc.

Well some people here seem to think that either GW should just close FW completely or keep FW eating salary etc while not producing anything. Resin makers not doing any resin would be silly...but then again that seems to be what some people here want starting to complain everytime RESIN MAKING DEPARTMENT RELEASING RESIN MODEL.

Or should gw produce and sell plastic AND resin version of every model? That makes zero economical sense.

Then again those people complaining about FW releasing resin models have zero business sense likely anyway so making identical(never mind plastic can't reach same level of details anyway) models at once for resin and plastic makes complete sense for them.