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Based on the weird sci-fi chamfered shape the nozzie/thruster in that rumor engine picture, I would strongly suspect it's Votann due to how much they have those same sorts of proportions and angles.

Have to say haven't laughed as hard as I laughed yesterday reading the article. Such an absurd situation Had to remind me it wasn't 1st of april.

But picture of blood angel also showed why upgrade sprue, even in plastic, isn't how I want my melee weapons. That's the more moving pose and still looks weird with melee guys. Add in more static poses and it would look bad.

tneva82 wrote:
But picture of blood angel also showed why upgrade sprue, even in plastic, isn't how I want my melee weapons. That's the more moving pose and still looks weird with melee guys. Add in more static poses and it would look bad.

I really like the Mk VI armour, but I have to agree that it doesn't really look very good with melee weapons. I am now hoping that, if and when we get proper plastic assault infantry, they are another variant. Mk V might be good - I am assuming that whatever kit they come out with would need to cover jetpack-equipped dudes and Breachers.

For me it's not the armour but pose.

The tragedy is how the upgrade kit looks really nice.
My guess is they change it for the actual plastic kit, and people will moan and lament that out of production resin kit for a decade

A more positive take I've seen thrown out:

This kit is a bone thrown to Mk6 purists because the actual upcoming plastic melee kit is a different mark.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
A more positive take I've seen thrown out:

This kit is a bone thrown to Mk6 purists because the actual upcoming plastic melee kit is a different mark.

This was pretty much my initial take away from it as well.
My vague prediction based off nothing other then my own logically based conclusion is that we'll see either a MKII tactical and/or assault squad released or a MkIII assault/breacher unit.

 Snrub wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
A more positive take I've seen thrown out:

This kit is a bone thrown to Mk6 purists because the actual upcoming plastic melee kit is a different mark.

This was pretty much my initial take away from it as well.
My vague prediction based off nothing other then my own logically based conclusion is that we'll see either a MKII tactical and/or assault squad released or a MkIII assault/breacher unit.

I'm inclined to follow what I assume is similar logic. We saw MKII with Argel Tal and the Spartan, so it wouldn't be a stretch to see them next as a fleshed out kit.

The arm positions are throwing it off for me. Mt here should be variety, at least one bolt pistol arm fully extended (for the walking marines) and one at approx 90 degrees. Chain does not as bad as arm position can alter that based on what pose is. I have only built one Mk VI marine so far (yeah, little behind on my box set), so not familiar with all the poses. Decided to do Dark Angels instead of Blood Angels anyway, so not really needing a chainsword kit.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Are we sure it's Resin?

Based on FW prices I assumed they were the dried tears of unicorns.

From the article

"Now you can get that close combat feel with the forthcoming Despoiler Squad upgrade set from Forge World. This resin pack comes with five arms with chainswords and five with bolt pistols for your MKVI plastic Space Marines. Aspiring commanders can use it to build brutal Despoiler squads to scythe through enemy lines."

Seems pretty clear to me, Kid.

...Wow. This is absolute gak.

Definitely the most underwhelming HH release so far. Here's hoping that one of those "in production" plastic infantry kits are Mark V Assault Marines.

tneva82 wrote:
Have to say haven't laughed as hard as I laughed yesterday reading the article. Such an absurd situation Had to remind me it wasn't 1st of april.

But picture of blood angel also showed why upgrade sprue, even in plastic, isn't how I want my melee weapons. That's the more moving pose and still looks weird with melee guys. Add in more static poses and it would look bad.

Half the reason we need a full assault kit is to get new poses. If they released a plastic sword / pistol kit with twice as many pieces in varied arrangements it would still be very bad news, as far as I'm concerned, since we would be stuck with the current bodies (I really like the current easy build kit, but this appreciation is contingent on the expectation of new kits in the future. If we're stuck with these bodies alone I'll drop HH and not look back).

It's not easy build but modern gw style. At best we get 5 new pose but same build style.

Forgeworld Deimos Vindicator gone.

 SirDonlad wrote:


Can't speak for Ursarax because i don't like them and didn't buy any, but can confidently deny Thallaxi status for that image 100%.

I can speak to Ursurax and state that they share the same design elements as the Thallax.

Hey, realized the BA resin CC upgrade model had a Boarding Actions / KT21S2 looking base. AoO 30K planned sometime in the future?

I'd personally be THRILLED by mark 5 assault marines. My favorite mark, personally, and the only mark not available in plastic of any sort.

The only other potential is mark 2, as we've seen some of that in plastic on the tank crews already.

 tauist wrote:
Hey, realized the BA resin CC upgrade model had a Boarding Actions / KT21S2 looking base. AoO 30K planned sometime in the future?

Probably not, but I could see Boarding Actions, possibly - or just using them for Zone Mortalis.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Forgeworld Deimos Vindicator gone.

Yep, both variants and from multiple countries.

Guess we know what next thursday's reveal is going to be.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Forgeworld Deimos Vindicator gone.

Mmmm.....Vindicators. Always loved the looks of the Deimos pattern Vindicators, just couldn't justify the price. This could change that.


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drbored wrote:
I'd personally be THRILLED by mark 5 assault marines. My favorite mark, personally, and the only mark not available in plastic of any sort.

The only other potential is mark 2, as we've seen some of that in plastic on the tank crews already.

I see that you have good taste, Drbored. Yeah, let's get some Heresy pattern power armour in this Heresy....

Gotta feel there would have been less tank fatigue if they'd gone through the list of rhino chasis tanks first.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Forgeworld Deimos Vindicator gone.

Mmmm.....Vindicators. Always loved the looks of the Deimos pattern Vindicators, just couldn't justify the price. This could change that.


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drbored wrote:
I'd personally be THRILLED by mark 5 assault marines. My favorite mark, personally, and the only mark not available in plastic of any sort.

The only other potential is mark 2, as we've seen some of that in plastic on the tank crews already.

I see that you have good taste, Drbored. Yeah, let's get some Heresy pattern power armour in this Heresy....

Right?? The whole idea of mixed armor being cobbled together to 'make do' during the HERESY so much so that it was called the HERESY PATTERN ARMOR is kind of... yeah. No-brainer.

We'll see if GW actually deliver.


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JWBS wrote:
Gotta feel there would have been less tank fatigue if they'd gone through the list of rhino chasis tanks first.

I think no matter what they did there'd still be this level of tank fatigue. We've gotten so many, with more revealed and teased, and NOTHING teased for many of the other units in 30k, such as recon marines, outrider bikes, javelin speeders, any of the aircraft, different kinds of drop pods, rapier batteries... There's a lot they could do to split things up, but they seem to be on a particular path.

The problem with Heresy armor in plastic is that it has a lot of rivets and exposed ribbing all over. If gw had to split shoulder pads in half to get rivets right, how would they cut apart entire bodies to get that to work?

To do Mk5 right it would need to be a proper 40k style unit kit with 10 sculpts for each body part, mix and matchable, and a load of options. "Cobbled together" armour that has a total of 5 fixed sculpts like the Mk6s woul be pretty worthless as a kit.

MKV has a lot less appeal for 40K players than MKVI. This is one big reason AoD chose MKVI.

MKV and MKII are coming sooner or later, but my guesstimate is later rather than sooner. GW'll prioritize releases which can be used in both 30K & 40K over 30K only releases

I'm not sure that's entirely true, CSM are pretty much all Mk5 by definition, aren't they?

For marks 2 and 3 I'd agree the crossover potential is negligible.

 tauist wrote:
MKV has a lot less appeal for 40K players than MKVI. This is one big reason AoD chose MKVI.

MKV and MKII are coming sooner or later, but my guesstimate is later rather than sooner. GW'll prioritize releases which can be used in both 30K & 40K over 30K only releases

It would be nice if GW also took the opportunity to update the Mk III and IV kits to match the newer scale and attachment points. Could use some specialist squads as a base, since they could make a 5 man infantry sprue, double it, and then add a sprue for say boarding shields and bolters or melee options to match MK III to make a box of breachers, or paired pistols and rad weapons to make destroyers in Mk IV.

Mk II I suppose would be a good option for a proper plastic despoiler squad, but Mk V what sort of unit would be best for them?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm not sure that's entirely true, CSM are pretty much all Mk5 by definition, aren't they?

For marks 2 and 3 I'd agree the crossover potential is negligible.

Yeah, but modern 40K CSM don't really look like your bogstandard armour marks IMHO. They are more "artificier armour" type, flanderized looking things with oversized silly spiky things and skulls. You could utilize standard armour bits as a foundation, but you'd need to "chaosify" them a lot in order to make them fit in.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
MKV has a lot less appeal for 40K players than MKVI. This is one big reason AoD chose MKVI.

Mk II I suppose would be a good option for a proper plastic despoiler squad, but Mk V what sort of unit would be best for them?

Veterans or something like that, Mark V was the result of field repairs, legions producing their own replacement parts and so on, so it would make sense that hardened troops that saw some action already, were part of the Shattered Legions and so on would display it most prominently.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm not sure that's entirely true, CSM are pretty much all Mk5 by definition, aren't they?

For marks 2 and 3 I'd agree the crossover potential is negligible.

If' you'd give a MK V box with 10 boltguns and 10 boltpistols and chainsword out, then GW would probably sell a lot less of the new CSM, if only because the baseline equipment in there is moronical.

So yes, CSM players would quite like an MK V squad with full basic options.