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isn't the transformed fulgrim model being done by Forgeworld? i'd have been really surprised if it wasn't in resin given that. and it is in keeping with forgeworld's other HH primarch figures.

the other demon primarchs have been for 40K not HH, and thus could be more easily done in plastic.

I don't think we knew it was being done by FW previously. Due to the other primarchs I was under the assumption it would have been in plastic. Trends and all that. Besides which, you make a plastic demon primarch, it can easily be used for both systems. Same cost of production, more return.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Bit annoying that this is totally different from the last supplement like GW can't even decide which horrible form of DLC treadmill to stick us on

I would guess that this will be followed by another campaign book or another "Liber" book for the mystery army. These exemplary battles compendiums seem like a good "filler" release for GW to mine and exploit. Republish previously free content with some modifications and new editions, slap a $50-60 pricetag on it, and profit while the team is plugging away at the next thing.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Bit annoying that this is totally different from the last supplement like GW can't even decide which horrible form of DLC treadmill to stick us on

I would guess that this will be followed by another campaign book or another "Liber" book for the mystery army. These exemplary battles compendiums seem like a good "filler" release for GW to mine and exploit. Republish previously free content with some modifications and new editions, slap a $50-60 pricetag on it, and profit while the team is plugging away at the next thing.

especially since they've started with the older ones, where iirc the material was written for the 1.0 version of HH

Based off the cover, looks like Fulgrim comes with a weapon option (an additional sword instead of the spear we were shown in the preview).

cody.d. wrote:
I don't think we knew it was being done by FW previously. Due to the other primarchs I was under the assumption it would have been in plastic. Trends and all that. Besides which, you make a plastic demon primarch, it can easily be used for both systems. Same cost of production, more return.

They mentioned that it was FW in the reveal back at NOVA. And the HH 2.0 release calendar mentioned they were releasing a new resin primarch soon. It will be interesting to see if Magnus, Angron, and Mortarion get resin daemon primarch models, though maybe they'll be from super specific moments in the heresy, to add some variety.

 GaroRobe wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
I don't think we knew it was being done by FW previously. Due to the other primarchs I was under the assumption it would have been in plastic. Trends and all that. Besides which, you make a plastic demon primarch, it can easily be used for both systems. Same cost of production, more return.

They mentioned that it was FW in the reveal back at NOVA. And the HH 2.0 release calendar mentioned they were releasing a new resin primarch soon. It will be interesting to see if Magnus, Angron, and Mortarion get resin daemon primarch models, though maybe they'll be from super specific moments in the heresy, to add some variety.

I think from a previous article they already mentioned that they're going to be revisiting the primarchs, to show them at the height of the heresy when the fighting was fiercest for them.

 SgtEeveell wrote:

They’re accompanied by modelling, kitbashing, and painting guides to complete the look.

Looks like the kind of stuff they used to have in the codices, eons ago.

Ah, totally missed that. Well that's promising then I suppose. Guess it'll really come down to the price point then.

I'm happy for some corrupted EC alongside ascending Fulgrim. Kinda worried Sunkillers will somehow be lame....or lose the defense line as an option.

To a lesser extent, I'm hopeful my Salamanders get something other than "here are some combi-flamers" for the Adherents. I like the unit but they're just 40k Vets armed w same weapon...

drbored wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
I don't think we knew it was being done by FW previously. Due to the other primarchs I was under the assumption it would have been in plastic. Trends and all that. Besides which, you make a plastic demon primarch, it can easily be used for both systems. Same cost of production, more return.

They mentioned that it was FW in the reveal back at NOVA. And the HH 2.0 release calendar mentioned they were releasing a new resin primarch soon. It will be interesting to see if Magnus, Angron, and Mortarion get resin daemon primarch models, though maybe they'll be from super specific moments in the heresy, to add some variety.

I think from a previous article they already mentioned that they're going to be revisiting the primarchs, to show them at the height of the heresy when the fighting was fiercest for them.

yeah it'll proably be more then just the traitor ones too. Dorn is described using a sword and shield in seige of terra so I imagine Dorn'll get a varient with a sword and sheild, etc. it also gives FW an excuse to update some of the older minis that they feel have started to look "a touch dated"

cody.d. wrote:
I don't think we knew it was being done by FW previously. Due to the other primarchs I was under the assumption it would have been in plastic. Trends and all that. Besides which, you make a plastic demon primarch, it can easily be used for both systems. Same cost of production, more return.

They said it was resin on the stream where it was announced. We've always known it was FW.

Horus Ascended was also resin and this is the same range. It's not a 40k model.

GW don't want the Primarch models to be usable for both systems, they'd rather sell you two Primarch models, or indeed three in Fulgrim's case.

Yep, it was always Forgeworld, always resin. There was no indication at all that it would not be.

They flat out said FW release.

Roadmap also had Primarch listed on the Resin side of the chart, with new Armour Mark and New Dreadnought and more Lords of War as the plastic release

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Maybe they will make the Atramentar not be completely overcosted trash now that we have to buy their rules.

Don't jinx it!

Indeed. And also: Don't get my hopes up.

Though, I will admit, if they do fix the Atramentar in this book, I'll buy it. If they don't? I won't. No matter how good the additional material is.

There. "Voting with your wallet" personified. Ball is in your court, GW.

Racerguy180 wrote:
I'm happy for some corrupted EC alongside ascending Fulgrim. Kinda worried Sunkillers will somehow be lame....or lose the defense line as an option.

To a lesser extent, I'm hopeful my Salamanders get something other than "here are some combi-flamers" for the Adherents. I like the unit but they're just 40k Vets armed w same weapon...

I’m more worried the Sunkillers won’t be in the book, seeing as their exemplary battle isn’t even one of the included ones, as Marshal Loss pointed out.

Corrupted Knights Exemplary Battles.

Had a quick look through and they seem pretty neat. I like that these things are still getting added to start giving Traitors some flavoured allies like Loyalists.

 Snrub wrote:
Corrupted Knights Exemplary Battles.

Interesting article, especially this part:

In fact, it doesn’t even begin to become fully manifest until well into the Siege of Terra – a period of the civil war described in great detail in the Black Library novels, but not yet explored in the game.* It’s for that reason that the example Knights we show in the article aren’t the Chaos Knights you see in Warhammer 40,000, as they wouldn’t be displaying anything like that level of mutation for many years (in most cases millennia) to come.

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but all corrupted stuff we see in the HH game(s) isn’t full blown Chaos. It might hint at more Ascended Traitor Primarchs and yes…a 40k version of Daemon Fulgrim (11th edition?).

Angron is the second Primarch to hit Daemonhood so the chances are he'll show up in an Exemplary Battles PDF or Compendium.
By the time GW reaches the Siege we will get Mortarion and possibly Magnus alongside rules to represent corrupted Death Guard.

I would like to point out that the actual descriptions for the various upgrades do have more detail that I would argue shows proper corruption I.E. weird fleshy growths and the such.

 Gert wrote:
Angron is the second Primarch to hit Daemonhood so the chances are he'll show up in an Exemplary Battles PDF or Compendium.
By the time GW reaches the Siege we will get Mortarion and possibly Magnus alongside rules to represent corrupted Death Guard.

I would like to point out that the actual descriptions for the various upgrades do have more detail that I would argue shows proper corruption I.E. weird fleshy growths and the such.

Plus an upgrade that's just the Abominant's tentacle weapon.

Very true. Regardless I'm pretty chuffed with this PDF and I'm already thinking about adding a Knight to my Sons of Horus who only have 11 models lol.

Hmmm....I like this. Knight Atropos with Rapturous Sensation for a Night Lords ally? Yessssss.

Expensive sidegrades mostly, but it's something.

Wow, they got me. I saw the House Vyronii emblem and the mention of Felweather and got excited.

Knights desperately need a boost in 30k. This is cool, but doesn't fix their inherent weakness.

Has anyone heard anything on a FAQ/Errata for HH2.0?

I would be surprised to see anything for a while.

From what I've seen from Necromunda and Titanicus, it seems that FAQ/Errata will come in the form of the next expansion book including rules to replace those found in previous publications
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Nah it'll be a regular errata it'll just be ages because that's how Heresy rolls. Broken stuff for eons and no FAQs for years.

 Gert wrote:
Nah it'll be a regular errata it'll just be ages because that's how Heresy rolls. Broken stuff for eons and no FAQs for years.

That was old Heresy. This is supposed to be HH2.0... so... it should be different.

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