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Another great model.

With the black library preview coming up, I wonder if they’ll debut a HH character in mk 4 armor. Fafnir debuted in the updated mk 3 armor waaay before they even teased the new kit

He's good, could see getting him as I've been considering a SoH allied detachment

Everything apart from the face is good. Looks like he's smelled a bad fart.

Would be nice if they released any IW character, at some point...

But then how would we be as bitter as the Legion we so love?

Just buy another perturabo with a shovel and dig your sorrows away.

ok jokes aside, the special charachters are really all over the place and i think we should first have for all legions praetors before we throw out more specials.

The incorporated wrist guard makes this mark incompatible with heavy weapon sprues, which makes me doubt they will redo the plastic kit.

 Gert wrote:
Everything apart from the face is good. Looks like he's smelled a bad fart.

to be fair I'd be using the allied detachment alongside a primary of Death Guard so this could actually be considered a bonus

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The incorporated wrist guard makes this mark incompatible with heavy weapon sprues, which makes me doubt they will redo the plastic kit.

Those wrist guards can again be included in the MKIV tac kit, just like they did with MKIII

 Albertorius wrote:
Would be nice if they released any IW character, at some point...

They did. Buuut he was an event exclusive model and he also became a loyalist

 tauist wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The incorporated wrist guard makes this mark incompatible with heavy weapon sprues, which makes me doubt they will redo the plastic kit.

Those wrist guards can again be included in the MKIV tac kit, just like they did with MKIII

I really don't see how, they're part of the forearm, not an extra plate on top.

 morganfreeman wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I kinda think GW went into this knowing the HH scene is rife with 3d printing, so they're basically just hoping to sell bare bones bodies on the cheap.

Irony is they massively kick started it with their lack of support.

Lmao, what's "massively kickstarted"? A couple thousand people out of 100k+ players? Out of a local community of around 100 GW hobbyists, I know 3 other people with 3d printers, personally. The number of people who buy 3d bits from etsy or whatever is not more than a handful either. You're grossly overestimating the extent to which 3d printing is overtaking the hobby.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Lmao, what's "massively kickstarted"? A couple thousand people out of 100k+ players? Out of a local community of around 100 GW hobbyists, I know 3 other people with 3d printers, personally. The number of people who buy 3d bits from etsy or whatever is not more than a handful either. You're grossly overestimating the extent to which 3d printing is overtaking the hobby.

And here it's hard to find someone without printed minis, even amongst tournament 40k players. I suspect reliance on printering in a region vastly correlates with lower average income.

Of course nobody here would be buying FW models even if printing didn't exist, so I guess the impact on sales isn't all that meaningful.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Would be nice if they released any IW character, at some point...

They did. Buuut he was an event exclusive model and he also became a loyalist

I myself have no problem with that last part ^^, but... yeah >_>

Exemplary Battles of the Horus Heresy – Tech Guard Bolster the Cult Mechanicus

PDF Link

3 Mechanicum themed Provenances for Imperialis Militia.

Oh, sweet, like the Tech Guard of old

Remind me, what's a laslock again?

Not Online!!! wrote:
Remind me, what's a laslock again?

Lore-wise, it's basically the lasgun equivalent to a musket or DMR, that trades RoF for stopping power.

Rules-wise, it's 18" S4 Ap6 Assault 2.

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Remind me, what's a laslock again?

Lore-wise, it's basically the lasgun equivalent to a musket or DMR, that trades RoF for stopping power.

Rules-wise, it's 18" S4 Ap6 Assault 2.

Seems odd stats if it's supposed to trade RoF for stopping power.

tneva82 wrote:

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Remind me, what's a laslock again?

Lore-wise, it's basically the lasgun equivalent to a musket or DMR, that trades RoF for stopping power.

Rules-wise, it's 18" S4 Ap6 Assault 2.

Seems odd stats if it's supposed to trade RoF for stopping power.

But then why'd you ever switch the lasgun to a lock, especially when in the same provenance you get access to the lasrifle which has an actually dangerous profile.

Not Online!!! wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Remind me, what's a laslock again?

Lore-wise, it's basically the lasgun equivalent to a musket or DMR, that trades RoF for stopping power.

Rules-wise, it's 18" S4 Ap6 Assault 2.

Seems odd stats if it's supposed to trade RoF for stopping power.

But then why'd you ever switch the lasgun to a lock, especially when in the same provenance you get access to the lasrifle which has an actually dangerous profile.

To get lower rate of fire with more punch?

I mean atm that doesn't seem like it shoots less with higher punch. Well S4 but still not THAT big punch looking to my eyes and don't see reduced RoF.

Not saying it's bad weapon(not experienced enough with the game) but it's just that if I were to imagine profile that for weapon that's supposed to have lower rate of fire but higher damage output that would NOT be what I would be thinking up.

I mean...Does that even shoot less shots than lasgun?

tneva82 wrote:


To get lower rate of fire with more punch?

I mean atm that doesn't seem like it shoots less with higher punch. Well S4 but still not THAT big punch looking to my eyes and don't see reduced RoF.

Not saying it's bad weapon(not experienced enough with the game) but it's just that if I were to imagine profile that for weapon that's supposed to have lower rate of fire but higher damage output that would NOT be what I would be thinking up.

I mean...Does that even shoot less shots than lasgun?

It doesn't, it has a 6 " sweetspot where it outperforms the lasguns on a rof point. It's assault though on grens so that's worth something even if questionable for grens since they actually can do melee, but if you want to do melee, why not just get shotguns, or use the normal assault laser militia has. And if Rof is really what you want, there's also the assault carbine which has actually a higher rof.
The arc rifle, now that is worth considering, maybee.

But you anyways get access to lasrifles which are either Heavy 2 30" S3 or Heavy 1 18" and S6 Ap4 which outperforms the 2 shots S4 against the average opponent massivly.

Looks neat. In fact the graphical presentation is far better than the actual Militia pdf!

Not Online!!! wrote:

tneva82 wrote:


To get lower rate of fire with more punch?

I mean atm that doesn't seem like it shoots less with higher punch. Well S4 but still not THAT big punch looking to my eyes and don't see reduced RoF.

Not saying it's bad weapon(not experienced enough with the game) but it's just that if I were to imagine profile that for weapon that's supposed to have lower rate of fire but higher damage output that would NOT be what I would be thinking up.

I mean...Does that even shoot less shots than lasgun?

It doesn't, it has a 6 " sweetspot where it outperforms the lasguns on a rof point. It's assault though on grens so that's worth something even if questionable for grens since they actually can do melee, but if you want to do melee, why not just get shotguns, or use the normal assault laser militia has. And if Rof is really what you want, there's also the assault carbine which has actually a higher rof.
The arc rifle, now that is worth considering, maybee.

But you anyways get access to lasrifles which are either Heavy 2 30" S3 or Heavy 1 18" and S6 Ap4 which outperforms the 2 shots S4 against the average opponent massivly.

So again just reinforces my point. Odd stats if it's supposed to be low rate of fire higher punch

Comment wasn't related to power level as obviously you can make stats that are balanced/imbalanced either way. Just that the stats seems odd for describtion. Much like I would consider it odd if genestealers were in game very slow unit that punch like wet paper but shoots very powerfully. You can make that work balance wise just as well as speedy melee specialist...but one fits fluff and one...is odd

Neato, more Militia stuff. I'm interested to see if this happens again in future.

Is this hope for more flavor for ruinstorm daemons in future exemplary battles publications?

Or that GW will be releasing a full print version of the Militia army list in a future exemplary battles compilation book?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Lmao, what's "massively kickstarted"? A couple thousand people out of 100k+ players? Out of a local community of around 100 GW hobbyists, I know 3 other people with 3d printers, personally. The number of people who buy 3d bits from etsy or whatever is not more than a handful either. You're grossly overestimating the extent to which 3d printing is overtaking the hobby.

And here it's hard to find someone without printed minis, even amongst tournament 40k players. I suspect reliance on printering in a region vastly correlates with lower average income.

Of course nobody here would be buying FW models even if printing didn't exist, so I guess the impact on sales isn't all that meaningful.

It's hard to imagine 3d printing isn't a lot more popular among the 30K crowd than the average wargamers, doing Horus Heresy without any printer access sounds awful. If somebody is in a big community of 30K players and they barely know anybody who prints, it's more likely people just aren't sharing that much of their lives with you personally than they actually aren't printing.

For most of my local, it's prob 50/50 print vs fw. I currently only have official stuff but as soon as I get my printer/wash/cure station setup and running I'll be a heretic...

Sprue pics:


Weapons are connected at the wrist with a flat connection and the only extra sergeant weapons are the two fists/lightning claws.
The kit is three sprues two times the body/weapon sprue and one jumppack sprue

Also it does seem like the jumppack sprue doesn't have anything on there needed for the bodies, same for the other way around so it might be possible that they also use this jumppack sprue for destroyers in the future? 
The body sprue could be used for despoilers with a different backpack sprue but then they would also have the additional armour plates in the front