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Yea even with the discount box, Aux will struggle to be financially viable, without it I don't see many people getting into the faction who don't already have the resins anyway.

Damn, they look sick. I really hope the Aurox makes it to plastic. And the flyers! I have little hope for those, but I've always wanted a plastic Thunderbolt ever since that old Golden Daemon entry from the 90s.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yea even with the discount box, Aux will struggle to be financially viable, without it I don't see many people getting into the faction who don't already have the resins anyway.

Honestly, for the infantry, its a pretty terrible 'discount box.' There just aren't enough, even for minimal dipping a toe in.

On the other hand, I don't see the resins mattering for people who want to get into this faction. Overcoming the 'resin barrier' is part of the point of HH2.

Voss wrote:
On the other hand, I don't see the resins mattering for people who want to get into this faction. Overcoming the 'resin barrier' is part of the point of HH2.

I mean to say that without bundle discounts, Aux in plastic won't be meaningfully more financially accessible than it was in resin. Like... will people start an army that costs 2 grand if they didn't already when it cost 3 grand?

I'm thinking a box of SA infantry (still havent decided which kit) might be just the ticket I've been looking to kitbash my KT21 Navy Breachers with. I like some of the Navy Breacher details but the torsos are not to my liking, SA torso swaps might make all the difference for me. Been wanting to do the Breachers justice as I already have a Navy-themed Valkyrie almost built as well.

Another bash which might end up suitable for some SA bits will be my Starstriders. The specialist models all look great, but I've never loved the Navis lasgun troopers which are included

Ah yeah, another conversion idea: a Dracosan hull and that Necromunda tracked version of the Ridgehauler..

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Voss wrote:
On the other hand, I don't see the resins mattering for people who want to get into this faction. Overcoming the 'resin barrier' is part of the point of HH2.

I mean to say that without bundle discounts, Aux in plastic won't be meaningfully more financially accessible than it was in resin. Like... will people start an army that costs 2 grand if they didn't already when it cost 3 grand?

I think it’s probably meaningfully more financially accessible when the main troops go from £90 for 20 to £45ish.

If you buy several of these new battlegroup boxes from a discounter, I am quite sure you can push down the price a lot further..

Also, if the Dracosan kit that comes with the battlegroup shares several sprues with the Malcador, you might be able to snag the remaining bits from ebay and be able to make the dracosans Malcadors that way (?)

Rejoice all ye Shattered Legion and Blackshield fans, for they have returned unto you. The next expansion book is Beta-Garmon.

This would seem an ideal book to release the 28mm Warmaster Titan in, what with the Titandeath and all that.

Looking forward to two different ways to build a custom Legion. And hey, I just bought Iron Hands dice.

Not so much to this being a mandatory codex supplement for Solar Aux.

Yeaaaah baby, that's what I've been waiting for!

Blackshields, finally!

Finally... though i'd rather have me malcadors. there's never enough malcadors.

I mean they'll probs be coming out at the same time so.

Y'all saying "finally" like they aren't going to make us wait another 3-6 months to be able to have a chance to buy the book. Of course, it'll sell out in 5 minutes like Siege of Cthoia did, and then it'll be another 3-6 month wait for most of us to be able to get a copy.

Managed to get mine easy enough when it came out. Didn't even queue or anything.
Seems like an American problem.

But you both have a USA flag

Good lord, I've been Americaned. I can assure that I am of good proper British stock.
But in all seriousness, Cthonia wasn't too hard to come by on this side of the pond in my experience. Got it fairly quickly not long after general release.

Cthonia never came to my local gamestore ....

Not Online!!! wrote:
Cthonia never came to my local gamestore ....

https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/horus-heresy-siege-of-cthonia-campaign-book-hb-2023-eng

This? Online only so not surprised.

Bit bored of Beta Garmon. We'll shortly have BL, AT, LI, and HH books for it. Hopefully the book is of similar quality to Cthonia which was pretty solid overall

I thought Beta Garmon was a Titanicus 'show'.

 RaptorusRex wrote:
I thought Beta Garmon was a Titanicus 'show'.

Titandeath is, but that isn't the entire conflict. It was a huge campaign Horus did as a feint, if I remember right. Multiple Legions present and fighting.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 RaptorusRex wrote:
I thought Beta Garmon was a Titanicus 'show'.

Titandeath is, but that isn't the entire conflict. It was a huge campaign Horus did as a feint, if I remember right. Multiple Legions present and fighting.

Maybe early heresy but late one was more of Dorn sending non-marine forces there(in particular titans in case their wide use on Earth would destroy the planet) to try to delay and buy time. Beta Garmon being vital link point. Don't hold it, Horus can't proceed to Earth so the longer Dorn could deny it to Horus the longer it would take for Horus reach Earth and longer the Guillimann & rest had time to arrive.

Titans were ideal to spend here for that as Dorn was reluctant to keep entire titan legion forces at Earth(due to worry what would happen to Earth if they were unleashed in full there. Maybe you win the war but lose the planet).

But yeah lots of activity there. Multiple planets, space battles, titans but also others. Blood Angels and White scar with their primarch defending against traitors led by Horus himself.

So Blackshields are basically "invent your own Chapter" right?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So Blackshields are basically "invent your own Chapter" right?

Essentially

Tavis75 wrote:
This would seem an ideal book to release the 28mm Warmaster Titan in, what with the Titandeath and all that.

You could conceivably get the same results as a scale warmaster by employing a 4 year old to stomp around on the board for a bit. Might actually end up being cheaper too!

 Gert wrote:
Good lord, I've been Americaned. I can assure that I am of good proper British stock.

Your profile pic is suitably outraged.

Tavis75 wrote:
This would seem an ideal book to release the 28mm Warmaster Titan in, what with the Titandeath and all that.

Warmaster would be too big to do reasonably in resin. Not quite impossible, but extremely unlikely.

On the other hand, Titandeath would be a good time to release plastic solar aux baneblades and shadowswords that LI pics have been teasing, a 28mm Dire Wolf titan, and a few more weapon options for the existing 28mm titans.

We also have seen the mystery army (minus the egg pattern sentinel) and teases of the sm command squad, so time for a new roadmap.

So, hidden in plain sight melee upgrade?

Judging from how misshapen they are I'd say those are resin.