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So, hopes, dreams and expectations for the melee sprue?

Hopes: boarding shields (probably not realistic as they need matching bolter arms)
Expectations: 5 power swords, 5 power axes, 5 power mauls, maaaybe 1 each thunder hammer, heavy chainsword, pair of LC.

Difficult to manage expectations because it's just listed on the roadmap as 'melee weapons'. We don't know if it's one sprue or multiple.

In an ideal world it should be equivalent in format to the heavy weapons release we received with the launch of 2.0 - e.g. chainswords, chainaxes, heavy chainswords in one box; power swords, axes, mauls, lances in another box; charnabal sabres, tabars, glaives and a small selection of fists/claws/thunder hammers in another box. That way you'd have elite units covered and also the ability for people to use the chainweapon box to kit out despoilers and the like. Personally I think larger melee weapons sets like that would sell like crazy and not just to 30k fans.

What I'm worried we'll get is just the plastic equivalent of the old resin weapons sets where you get 1-4 of each weapon and 1-4 of a few kinds of pistol, which would be an enormous waste of time.

Crossing my fingers hoping for the former, but bracing for the latter.

The latter for me, I think.

But it’s hard to say. As someone that’s spent a lot of dosh already? I have many Pretty Things left over.

For example, last night I started building the next 10 Assault Marines. First 10 were straight out the box. No bells or whistles. Well except two Power Swords from the Command sprue.

This 10? 4 have Volkite Serpentas from the two Jetbike kits I’ve assembled. The other one I’ve built had a Power Sword, again from the Command sprue. And I’ve more than one more Power Sword left to finish equipping that unit.

After that? I’ve a fair few fancy weapons left over. So I’d hope the Assault Weapons offer stuff entirely unique.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So, hopes, dreams and expectations for the melee sprue?

Hopes: boarding shields (probably not realistic as they need matching bolter arms)
Expectations: 5 power swords, 5 power axes, 5 power mauls, maaaybe 1 each thunder hammer, heavy chainsword, pair of LC.

Honest question, blackfang - why would you hope for boarding shields in the melee kit, rather than in a Breacher kit? As you yourself say, it'd need bolter arms.

I'm not sure what I'd expect in terms of weapons in the kit, but I would expect the kit to be melee weapons (and arms).

Breacher shields would need to come in a kit that includes bolters that can be mounted into the shield notches, along with volkite Chargers that do the same. It's not coming in the melee weapons kit.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Breacher shields would need to come in a kit that includes bolters that can be mounted into the shield notches, along with volkite Chargers that do the same. It's not coming in the melee weapons kit.

And Meltaguns, and Grav Guns, or wherever they’re called.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Breacher shields would need to come in a kit that includes bolters that can be mounted into the shield notches, along with volkite Chargers that do the same. It's not coming in the melee weapons kit.

And Meltaguns, and Grav Guns, or wherever they’re called.

Breacher sprue would just be 5 shields with 5 matching bolters and volkites, and one flamer/melta/grav. If we are lucky, a set of 5 or 6 more armored helmets to go with them. Double it, put it in a 10 man box and done

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Breacher shields would need to come in a kit that includes bolters that can be mounted into the shield notches, along with volkite Chargers that do the same. It's not coming in the melee weapons kit.

And Meltaguns, and Grav Guns, or wherever they’re called.

Breacher sprue would just be 5 shields with 5 matching bolters and volkites, and one flamer/melta/grav. If we are lucky, a set of 5 or 6 more armored helmets to go with them. Double it, put it in a 10 man box and done

Can breachers still take breaching charges? If so I'd expect one of those too.

New Valrak rumours
Admech coming with a lot of stuff

He's hearing bits about a new SM boxset that will introduce the next armour MK but no info yet which one. Also some snippits about Breachers.

SA will get more variants of Malcador tanks which isn't surprising

So this is too unimaginative to be an april fools, right?

Any chance of a summary?

Pretty much what Matrindur reported.

What Malcador variants are there? It's just the Valdor left, correct?

 Kanluwen wrote:
What Malcador variants are there? It's just the Valdor left, correct?

The big flamer one too.

 Kanluwen wrote:
What Malcador variants are there? It's just the Valdor left, correct?

Infernus & Defender IIRC

beast_gts wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
What Malcador variants are there? It's just the Valdor left, correct?

Infernus & Defender IIRC

I'd be shocked to see the Defender. I wasn't sure if Infernus was 30k but it's in Tiny Tinyhammer so I guess it's a good shout!

Valdor and Infernus dual kit probs.

Have they done the Minotaur in plastic yet?

 Haighus wrote:
Have they done the Minotaur in plastic yet?

Nope, still resin (and out of stock).

beast_gts wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Have they done the Minotaur in plastic yet?

Nope, still resin (and out of stock).

So Minotaur, Valdor, Malcador Infernus, and Malcador Defender are all possibilities from that rumour.

It'll just be the Valdor and Infernus, the other two are not in use with the Solar Auxilia.

Malcador Defender isn't in Heresy at all not even in the additional units across the various PDFs.

Minotaur is one of my favourites, so hoping for that to make the cut even if it’s for Epic…

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pretty much what Matrindur reported.

Interestingly, Valrak thinks the next armour mark might either be MkII or MkV.

 stahly wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pretty much what Matrindur reported.

Interestingly, Valrak thinks the next armour mark might either be MkII or MkV.

But Valrak doesn't even have a passing knowledge of GW model ranges and neither do his sources, so I wouldn't put too much weight on what they think they've seen. Just a few minutes earlier he said "genestealer mutants based on hive scum" like that means anything.

Well, it kind of does.

Mankier Hybrids, perhaps unlike the ones we’re used to seeing. Not just three or four arms, but more classical mutations perhaps, a mix of foul Xenos DNA and corrupted human DNA. A heady mix of manky from both sources.

Which could be a real show stopper for a nascent Genestealer Cult. If you’re resulting Hybrids are mutated, you’ve a much reduced chance of a deep infiltration of the planet’s power structure. A slightly deeper forehead and kind-of-in-the-right-light purplish tinge to the skin are only give aways to the most alert and learned. But three legs, two heads and twenty seven arses is just gonna limit your career, no?

Which in turn might explain why Necromunda as a whole isn’t especially threatened right now - the Cult has too few passing members to really get up to no good. At least for now.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
But Valrak doesn't even have a passing knowledge of GW model ranges and neither do his sources, so I wouldn't put too much weight on what they think they've seen. Just a few minutes earlier he said "genestealer mutants based on hive scum" like that means anything.

Hive scum are a plastic kit. So these are presumably what GW have been doing more of lately which is adding an extra sprue to an existing set to make another unit. In this case genestealer mutants. Seems pretty straight forward.

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
But Valrak doesn't even have a passing knowledge of GW model ranges and neither do his sources, so I wouldn't put too much weight on what they think they've seen. Just a few minutes earlier he said "genestealer mutants based on hive scum" like that means anything.

Hive scum are a plastic kit. So these are presumably what GW have been doing more of lately which is adding an extra sprue to an existing set to make another unit. In this case genestealer mutants. Seems pretty straight forward.

With the size of the hive scum sprue, the upgrade sprue might actually end up being bigger than the base!

Let's take the non-Heresy rumour validity discussion elsewhere.

 stahly wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pretty much what Matrindur reported.

Interestingly, Valrak thinks the next armour mark might either be MkII or MkV.

...it wasn't going to be MkI or MkVIII, and MkVII appears for all of about 5 seconds during the Horus Heresy. III, IV, and VI have plastic kits.

So yeah, everyone thinks the next armour mark might be II or V.