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2024/04/23 17:27:57
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Crafty Bray Shaman
Anor Londo
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Yes, I agree sometimes that it is.
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2024/04/23 17:46:48
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Haighus wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:beast_gts wrote:When selecting units for an Auxilia Veletaris Tercio (see Liber Imperium), one Solar Auxilia Hermes Veletaris Squadron unit can be included in place of one Solar Auxilia Veletaris Storm Section unit.
Does this mean they get Line in a Solar Pattern Cohort?
I don't see why not. It's a unit in a Veletaris Tercio.
RAW they can also take an Arvus transport, but ho hum.
Given a pair of the classic Sentinels can fit in a Valkyrie if the exhausts and roll cage are tucked down, I think the Hermes fitting in an Arvus is entirely reasonable. They are diddy little walkers.
Unfortunately, since only Infantry can embark on transports (barring special rules), the Arvus would just explode at the beginning of the game rather than make a concession that it might indeed fit a Cavalry unit.
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2024/04/23 18:26:35
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Haighus wrote:Given a pair of the classic Sentinels can fit in a Valkyrie if the exhausts and roll cage are tucked down, I think the Hermes fitting in an Arvus is entirely reasonable. They are diddy little walkers.
Anyone remember if Elysian Drop Sentinels could go in a 'normal' Valkyrie, or just the Sky-Talon?
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2024/04/23 19:08:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In IA3 (before the Sky Talon was invented) a regular Valkyrie could carry a sentinel in addition to its normal troop complement (with some weapon restrictions).
In IA8 (I believe when the Sky Talon was introduced) a regular Valkyrie cannot carry a drop sentinel, but a Sky Talon can carry 2.
They can also deep strike on their own.
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2024/04/23 19:21:11
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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Gah, the ducklings are Cavalry and as such, not allowed in ZM games.. why GW, why?!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2024/04/23 21:41:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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lord_blackfang wrote:"This faction won't be popular so let's make it more expensive" is a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy tho innit
Wrong perspective - in the case of space marines its "80% of our sales for this game will come from this faction, ergo the volume of expected sales allows us to make the price for these goods more competitive in the market". In the case of auxilia it's "this is a niche faction with a niche audience, in order to recoup costs and hit our profitability targets based on expected demand, we need to price these products a bit higher"
The great irony though is GWs understanding of where the demand is and what it looks like seems to be somewhat questionable.
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2024/04/30 23:47:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Haighus wrote:In 2007, a sentinel cost £15, which would apparently be £24.40 today after inflation. £27.50 is above inflation but by less than I thought (plus two new kits in the interim). £20 is in the expected ballpark.
Sentinels have always been a pricey option given the pts per model.
You've got to put it in perspective - that is the same price as Chipolte's Double Beef Burrito Bowl ($39.99 USD + sales tax). It's less than a large fast food meal.
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2024/05/01 18:50:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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boyd wrote: You've got to put it in perspective - that is the same price as Chipolte's Double Beef Burrito Bowl ($39.99 USD + sales tax). It's less than a large fast food meal.
Odd, around here (southeast Michigan / Detroit) that meal from Chipotle would be $16.11 including sales tax.
In any case, I got priced out of GW's stuff 15 years ago. I can't imagine how anyone affords new armies now.
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2024/05/01 20:24:44
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Auxilia prices pg 239)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Bob Lorgar wrote:boyd wrote: You've got to put it in perspective - that is the same price as Chipolte's Double Beef Burrito Bowl ($39.99 USD + sales tax). It's less than a large fast food meal.
Odd, around here (southeast Michigan / Detroit) that meal from Chipotle would be $16.11 including sales tax.
One of you must be wrong, it's been established a long time ago only GW is evil enough to have regional pricing.
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2024/05/18 19:11:20
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Ad mech announced. Looks like a battle force with thralls, castellax, and thallax. Thanatar and arch magos seem to be sold separately.
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2024/05/18 19:13:44
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Looks not like a bad deal honestly.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2024/05/18 19:15:20
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Some pics
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2024/05/18 19:17:54
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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The Mechanicum designs have always been so good, really pleased to see them in plastic.
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2024/05/18 19:22:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Yeah, they’re really nice looking. Makes me want to start them if I wasn’t in the process of painting an entire bloody legion. 😅
I’m really surprised to see them so fast after the SA dropped. Seems like GW is really pushing to get HH on the map as another main-line system with large-scale plastic support and less of a focus on marines. Which is great, as it’s always good to see variety on the table top and I know a lot of people dislike how marine-centric HH has been.
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2024/05/18 19:32:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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We haven't heard prices yet.
Edit: Now, how long until the Thanatar Calix kit.
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2024/05/18 19:39:41
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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I've never been a huge fan of Admech vehicles, but those castellax and thanatar are amazing. I can definitely see adding some allies to my Iron Warriors, or at the very least a praevian.
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2024/05/18 19:45:10
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Gadzilla666 wrote:
We haven't heard prices yet.
Edit: Now, how long until the Thanatar Calix kit.
way to put a dampener for one.
overall though it is a well done box.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2024/05/18 19:58:46
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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ImAGeek wrote:The Mechanicum designs have always been so good, really pleased to see them in plastic.
30k Mechanicum is much closer to what I imagine they should be compared to 40k's more cartoon-y designs.
I've managed to avoid getting into 30k so far, but I think this box will find its way into my hands
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2024/05/18 22:10:10
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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Those thralls are amazing, proper tech zombies!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2024/05/18 22:19:55
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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At this point, are the plastic melee weapons going to just drop alongside command squads without warning?
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2024/05/18 22:34:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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infinite_array wrote: ImAGeek wrote:The Mechanicum designs have always been so good, really pleased to see them in plastic.
30k Mechanicum is much closer to what I imagine they should be compared to 40k's more cartoon-y designs.
Ehhh...the 40k ones are let down by paint-jobs in many cases. The red/cream/black doesn't need to be present as heavily as it is.
I've managed to avoid getting into 30k so far, but I think this box will find its way into my hands
I'm thinking about grabbing to go alongside my Solar Auxilia.
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2024/05/18 22:35:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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MajorWesJanson wrote:At this point, are the plastic melee weapons going to just drop alongside command squads without warning?
Probably shown on a Monday.
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2024/05/18 22:40:35
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Regular Dakkanaut
Washington State
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morganfreeman wrote:Yeah, they’re really nice looking. Makes me want to start them if I wasn’t in the process of painting an entire bloody legion. 😅
I’m really surprised to see them so fast after the SA dropped. Seems like GW is really pushing to get HH on the map as another main-line system with large-scale plastic support and less of a focus on marines. Which is great, as it’s always good to see variety on the table top and I know a lot of people dislike how marine-centric HH has been.
As long as they don't decide they need a new edition every 3 years now.
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2024/05/18 23:48:32
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Reckon I might be in the market for some Castellax in the near future, and a Praevian Conul to let me field them in my Dark Angels Legion.
A Thanatar too, if I can field one via a Rite of War or Consul.
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2024/05/19 00:09:54
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Hermes rules p. 251.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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SgtEeveell wrote:morganfreeman wrote:Yeah, they’re really nice looking. Makes me want to start them if I wasn’t in the process of painting an entire bloody legion. 😅
I’m really surprised to see them so fast after the SA dropped. Seems like GW is really pushing to get HH on the map as another main-line system with large-scale plastic support and less of a focus on marines. Which is great, as it’s always good to see variety on the table top and I know a lot of people dislike how marine-centric HH has been.
As long as they don't decide they need a new edition every 3 years now.
Best case would be if HH and LI and/or Old World got bumped up to full line status and we got a 5-6 year cycle as a result. But HH could use some touch upside honestly. Balance is a mess in some places that could use a solid redo.
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2024/05/19 02:08:46
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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MajorWesJanson wrote:At this point, are the plastic melee weapons going to just drop alongside command squads without warning?
After all this time, I'm almost positive that the power swords on the command squad are the plastic melee weapons and that nothing else is coming.
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2024/05/19 03:42:43
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Mechanicus by far are the star of the show in the reveals they've shared, totally puts their 40k brethren to shame. 30k really has done a fantastic transition to plastic for their non-marine lines and it is seriously tempting for me to consider dipping into the game because of them.
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2024/05/19 04:18:23
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Otiose in a Niche
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Loving the Mechanicum.
IIRC there was a policy for a time of not using FW designs in plastic (the Valkyrie and Baneblade being welcome exceptions). Glad to see it is gone.
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2024/05/19 07:42:06
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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100% agreed! They are my favourites from the shown.
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2024/05/19 07:43:50
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I really love all of those releases. I've always liked the thanatar and triaros. They're such brilliant designs. It's a shame they can't be used in 40k. I might get some in the future, but chances are they'll be available in epic scale before I get round to it and I'll have settle for some teeny tiny versions instead.
I will definitely be picking up a Dominus once they're available though.
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