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2022/07/06 20:29:54
Subject: New Warmachine Previews -- It's MK4, Baby!
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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I didn't miss a thread in N&R, right? Far as I can tell nobody is reporting new WMH stuff here any more, but there's been some previews of Cygnar hyper-tech stuff:
https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/06/22/storm-legion-captain-athena-di-baro-and-stryker-warjack/
Captain Athena di Baro - Cygnar Warcaster
Stryker - Heavy Warjack
https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/06/24/storm-legion-zephyr-chariot-and-stormblade-legionnaires/
Zephyr - Solo
Stormblade Legionnaires - Unit
https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/06/28/storm-legion-courser-and-tempest-thunderers/
Courser - Light Warjack
Tempest Thunderers - Medium-Based Unit
https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/06/30/storm-legion-stormthrowers-and-tempest-assailers/
Stormthrower Legionnaires - Small-Based Unit
Tempest Assailers - Medium-Based Unit
https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/07/05/storm-legion-major-anson-wolfe-and-captain-madison-calder/
Major Anson Wolfe - Cygnar Warcaster
Captain Madison Calder - Cygnar Warcaster
Gun to my head, I would have guessed these were for a Warcaster crossover game / setting, but maybe this style is just where the design studio is at these days. Anyway you can read more about their WMH abilities in those links if you like, plus bigger pics.
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2022/07/06 21:12:00
Subject: New Cygnar Previews
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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So they're making Cygnar into the heavy armor faction?
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2022/07/06 23:06:23
Subject: New Cygnar Previews
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Oh wow, warjacks with actual legs? I'm stunned. They look good!
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2022/07/07 14:40:56
Subject: New Cygnar Previews
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I've been out of the Warmahordes loop, but I thought Maddox was already the Storm Knight 'caster?
They all feel very Protectorate in visuals to me, at least unpainted.
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2022/07/07 18:35:38
Subject: New Cygnar Previews
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Pyre Troll
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I'm looking forward to seeing painted examples of these. I'm also happy that after the fluff time jump forward, we are getting these guys showing off the storm-tech improvements and not something like trencher versions of old units
It will be interesting to see what they do for the other factions to represent time moving forward
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2022/07/12 12:51:51
Subject: New Cygnar Previews
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Hungry Ork Hunta Lying in Wait
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They look less like Cygnar and more like Khador / Protectorate fusion models.
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2022/07/14 14:32:58
Subject: Re:New Cygnar Previews
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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I knew I had seen some Khador previews as well, and when I went digging in the Primecast videos for May and June I found more Cygnar as well: Cygnar Journeyman Warcaster Cygnar Sharpshooters w/ Railguns Khador Dire Wolf Khador Bison - 80mm Solo? And totally adorable. Khador Sniper Warcaster?
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2022/07/19 21:28:30
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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The proportions seem more exaggerated and cartoony than they used to be... but I'm not sure if it is just me, if they have actually changed, or if the rest of the market has.
At any rate, for me these models hit the point where it is distracting and even though I like the design the immense size of plating & weapons looks too goofy for me to take seriously.
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2022/07/19 21:37:52
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Fixture of Dakka
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Warmachine has always been pretty exaggerated and cartoony. I think with the smaller models it was lost a little more often, but the designs have always had a Saturday Morning appeal for me.
Renders also tend to make things look even more exaggerated. Like those Cygnar Sharpshooters are at least 3x the size of the final figure on my screen. They'll shrink down just fine.
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2022/07/20 15:10:00
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The 'look' of the guns has had a big shift - its very different to 'oldmachine'. Less steam punky and more sci-fi (railguns etc).
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/07/20 16:55:03
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Fixture of Dakka
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Deadnight wrote:The 'look' of the guns has had a big shift - its very different to 'oldmachine'. Less steam punky and more sci-fi (railguns etc).
That's just a Cygnar thing though. Pushing the whole Tesla coil angle has been their thing for a while and I'm sure the Railgun guys are some new prototype unit deal. The other storm weapons are pretty in line with most of the existing storm tech. Nemo was removing coal from Cygnar entirely before the whole, turned into a giant GLaDOS and sent to space thing.
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2022/07/21 06:21:01
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LunarSol wrote:Deadnight wrote:The 'look' of the guns has had a big shift - its very different to 'oldmachine'. Less steam punky and more sci-fi (railguns etc).
That's just a Cygnar thing though. Pushing the whole Tesla coil angle has been their thing for a while and I'm sure the Railgun guys are some new prototype unit deal. The other storm weapons are pretty in line with most of the existing storm tech. Nemo was removing coal from Cygnar entirely before the whole, turned into a giant GLaDOS and sent to space thing.
Is it?
To be fair the khadoran widowmakers rifle is the exact same, at least imo.
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/07/21 06:25:04
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very sleek and modern, far from the steampunk Game of Thrones vibe that originally atracted my attention.
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2022/07/22 03:01:31
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Charing Cold One Knight
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....this new aesthetic isn't my thing at all.
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2022/07/22 07:46:12
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I really like most of the new designs but they do seam like too much of a design change for the setting -- but war is one of the biggest drivers of innovation. A lot of stuff actually looks like it could be pulled from a JRPG. The Railgunners someone could tell me were ripped right out of a recent Final Fantasy game and I'd believe them. That's not a bad thing for the concept but, again, seam out of place for the IK.
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2022/07/22 15:32:43
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Fixture of Dakka
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Deadnight wrote: LunarSol wrote:Deadnight wrote:The 'look' of the guns has had a big shift - its very different to 'oldmachine'. Less steam punky and more sci-fi (railguns etc).
That's just a Cygnar thing though. Pushing the whole Tesla coil angle has been their thing for a while and I'm sure the Railgun guys are some new prototype unit deal. The other storm weapons are pretty in line with most of the existing storm tech. Nemo was removing coal from Cygnar entirely before the whole, turned into a giant GLaDOS and sent to space thing.
Is it?
To be fair the khadoran widowmakers rifle is the exact same, at least imo.
It's a Warcaster's rifle, so it has to have the glowy bits. That's the mechanika parts that enable boosting. Outside of having a clip on it, its not all that different from the one in Kara Sloan's artwork and a LOT of time has passed in universe from when that thing was brought to the field. Definitely more modern, but not that big of a jump. A lot of the classic metal banding is there. It's really the clip and the new muzzle that have been updated.
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2022/07/26 17:11:22
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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All these new designs are for MKIV coming later this year.
https://youtu.be/sLMSBidai7M?t=142
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2022/07/26 17:14:25
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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There's more in this article ( https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/07/26/warmachine-big-news/), including finally being shown what the feth is happening:
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2022/07/26 17:33:10
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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The new jacks all look fantastic. It's a huge change. Plenty to be scared of, but.... here's hoping.
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2022/07/26 17:35:33
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Not a fan of the NMM. Does not scream "Warmachine" at all to me. That said that new Great Bear does look awesome.
Also, what faction logo is the one on the far right (the one slated for October 2023 in the image above)? That one looks new to me.
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2022/07/26 17:41:01
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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The video calls it "Dusk: House Kallyss" at the end - what's left of Retribution maybe? EDIT: Apparently they're going to tell us more about the faction this Friday.
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2022/07/26 17:58:14
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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Boss Salvage wrote:The video calls it "Dusk: House Kallyss" at the end - what's left of Retribution maybe?
EDIT: Apparently they're going to tell us more about the faction this Friday.
Yeah, its got to be the Eldritch remains of Retribution.
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2022/07/26 18:23:06
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Boss Salvage wrote:The video calls it "Dusk: House Kallyss" at the end - what's left of Retribution maybe?
EDIT: Apparently they're going to tell us more about the faction this Friday.
Ah cheers! Haven't watched the video yet, only just finished reading that Magna Carta of an article.
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2022/07/26 18:29:53
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thinking on that further, so Armies are subsets of Factions, but its entirely possible an army could belong to multiple factions. Given the art of the logo, this feels very much like it could be a Cryx/Retribution dual faction army.
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2022/07/26 19:34:52
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grimtuff wrote:Not a fan of the NMM. Does not scream "Warmachine" at all to me. That said that new Great Bear does look awesome. Also, what faction logo is the one on the far right (the one slated for October 2023 in the image above)? That one looks new to me. They started having Angel Giraldez's studio paint their stuff a while ago so ya quite the change in aesthetics. But it's currently the in "style" for wargaming and mini painting.
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2022/07/26 22:41:03
Subject: Re:New Cygnar Previews
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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2022/07/27 07:21:32
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cautiously optimistic here.
And to an extend, 'we called it'. They've gone ahead and made a lot of the changes I suspected they would make ('legacy-machine' and 'nu-machine') to make the game accessible. Also interesting to see discussions about 'the squish'. WNK seems to have has more than a little bit of influence on it, which isn't a bad thing. But we'll find out more about that today
I'm glad I started buying up some of the older sculpts though.
And while I can't speak about the dirty swans, and dont think much of the orgoth, the khador stuff looks good and I'm intrigued by the rest.
Only thing I don't see is the lore changes. I like the lore/story/setting of the iron kingdoms - how will this be presented?
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/07/27 09:58:21
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Storm Legion look a lot better painted. I certainly like them better than the Storm Knights, which I've always hate a love-hate relationship with. I think the railgunners might look less jarring when they're painted up and looking more 'platemail armoured' than the sci-fi (Warcaster?) trooper vibe the greys give off.
Khador stuff looks pretty typical Khador I guess.
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2022/07/27 10:01:19
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's just the sniper and jack that have been shon sso far right? No units yet?
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/07/27 13:16:15
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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They've shown off two different Khador warjacks. The one shown yesterday is "Great Bear" while the first one shown was Dire Wolf.
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