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2022/07/27 13:55:03
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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If you scroll up you'll see the other Khador jack, along with the painted Cygnar. Also check that power fist on the Cygnar jack! And the huge cannon! This is possibly the first time I've been attracted to the swans
In other news, I fething love Advanced Wars. I always jump to Metal Slug when I see chibi tanks but the AW energy is more on point.
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2022/07/27 14:48:35
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, I LOVE the new Cygnar jacks. The army still isn't really my style and I much prefer the Khador stuff, but those jacks are awfully sharp looking.
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2022/07/27 16:44:13
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The dirty swans look even better being punched to death by my Behemoth! :p
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/07/30 13:13:56
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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The size of the fist on that Cygnar Warjack... looks like Cygnar is the new Khador!
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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2022/07/30 17:42:07
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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stonehorse wrote:The size of the fist on that Cygnar Warjack... looks like Southern Khador is the new Khador!
Fixed that for you!
Youre welcome!
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/07/30 18:25:46
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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When you put it like that, I have to agree
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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2022/07/31 08:47:37
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Serious Squig Herder
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With the units now to be 3d-printed is there any good reason for PP to keep with their tradition of clone troopers?
It seems like they could easily slightly alter the poses on them now to avoid that since they aren't making molds for them anymore. Or allow a little poseability.
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2022/07/31 12:45:07
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Pyre Troll
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Schmapdi wrote:With the units now to be 3d-printed is there any good reason for PP to keep with their tradition of clone troopers?
It seems like they could easily slightly alter the poses on them now to avoid that since they aren't making molds for them anymore. Or allow a little poseability.
i certainly hope so, given it looks like we are going to 3 man and 5 man squads now
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2022/08/01 20:07:49
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Rebel_Princess
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I can't wait to blow $600 on Cygnar this year lol
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2022/08/01 20:09:03
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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greenskin lynn wrote:Schmapdi wrote:With the units now to be 3d-printed is there any good reason for PP to keep with their tradition of clone troopers?
It seems like they could easily slightly alter the poses on them now to avoid that since they aren't making molds for them anymore. Or allow a little poseability.
i certainly hope so, given it looks like we are going to 3 man and 5 man squads now
Everything seems to be focused on 3 unique sculpts so I'd expect a couple duplicates in the 5 mans.
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2022/08/02 04:38:38
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Yeah, that's an oversight considering they're digital sculpts, while reposing things can be difficult, the stuff they show are mostly hard surface armored guys that you can just throw a quick rig on to repose.
The cutting and keying of the parts is another issue, but that just needs to be done once.
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2022/08/02 14:36:33
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vertrucio wrote:Yeah, that's an oversight considering they're digital sculpts, while reposing things can be difficult, the stuff they show are mostly hard surface armored guys that you can just throw a quick rig on to repose.
The cutting and keying of the parts is another issue, but that just needs to be done once.
It's 3D printing, depending on the design there's no need to cut and key pieces at all outside the modular 'jacks.
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2022/08/02 18:52:48
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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There are - you can get better prints by cutting up parts of a model and reorienting print angles, etc. Just because you can print it in one solid piece doesn't necessarily mean you should.
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2022/08/02 19:28:52
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Dakka Veteran
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chaos0xomega wrote:There are - you can get better prints by cutting up parts of a model and reorienting print angles, etc. Just because you can print it in one solid piece doesn't necessarily mean you should.
True, but you can get away with fewer parts when printing since you aren't as constrained by molding limitations, such as undercuts, etc.
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2022/08/03 10:49:18
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The lore reveals on the new vampire/elves (rip retribution) and khador look really good, though as a loyal patriot of the latter, I would like to see some of the new units and not just the previews of things I only intend to axe-to-face into little pieces.
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/08/03 14:04:11
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longrifle
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Loving the new Khador warcaster, she might be a contender against my Sorscha 3, depending on what kind of rules my icy kommandant gets.
Surely they can't leave her just as legacy, she's too iconic to the faction....
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2022/08/03 14:10:01
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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Cygnwulf wrote:Loving the new Khador warcaster, she might be a contender against my Sorscha 3, depending on what kind of rules my icy kommandant gets.
Surely they can't leave her just as legacy, she's too iconic to the faction....
They confirmed Khador's second Prime army will be Man-o-War so expect Sorscha3 to be one of the casters that gets ported to Prime.
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2022/08/03 14:17:45
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Speaking of lore, you can check out the new stuff here:
Dusk, House Kallyss (the first army of the fourth faction) >> https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/07/29/warmachine-mkiv-lore-overview-dusk-house-kallyss/
Khador, Winter Korps (the first of the Khador armies) >> https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/08/01/khador-winter-korps-lore-kapitan-ekaterina-baranova-dire-wolf-and-great-bear/
Kapitan Ekaterina Baranova, Warcaster
Dire Wolf, Heavy Warjack (previously seen with shield + awkwardly small axe)
Great Bear, Heavy Warjack (same photo as last page)
The Khador page has some rules sneaks for the above as well.
EDIT: The Khador krew seen here come in the Winter Korps preview army available online during GenCon:
Damn those are some great bits
There's also Storm Legion and Sea Raider sets, which will be available AT GenCon as well as online:
Really wish the Orgoth jacks were more inspiring, since I'm most likely to play them out of the first three, but swapping in better heads will instantly help, the two on these are the worst
More details here: https://home.privateerpress.com/2022/08/02/preview-battlegroups-at-gen-con-and-online-thursday/
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2022/08/03 14:49:43
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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I am beyond hyped they got Khador ready in time. Super excited to play around with this stuff.
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2022/08/03 15:35:11
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Boss Salvage wrote:
Dire Wolf, Heavy Warjack (previously seen with shield + awkwardly small axe)
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^puts on ushanka hat and bad russian accent^
I've reported you to the greylords for unpatriotic behaviour.
All patriots of the motherland know there is no such word in khadoran for 'small'. That is cygnaran treachery and nothing short of disinformation. It discourages national.unity and our national spirit. In khadoran, the root of the words 'bigger' and 'better' are the same. 'Small' is 'weak' and is the character of those treacherous dogs from the south, not of our great strength and resilience and strong national character.
To all those who may have been led astray by your verbal dishonesty, let us be clear, it is not 'small'. Merely 'efficient and direct'. Use of the former language will be treated as sedition from.this moment on and rewarded with ten years in the Labour camps or ten years attached to a fellblade which should teach you right, komrade.
^takes of ushanka hat and drops fake Russian accent^ have a nice day komrades!
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/08/03 17:07:10
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Automatically Appended Next Post: Alright y'all, looks like there's a N&R WM thread again, so I'll leave off dredging this one back up with new releases. Catch you back up at the top!
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/806214.page
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2022/08/04 15:33:06
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Terrifying Doombull
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Yikes. I know I've been out of things for a while (so this may have been more gradual than it feels), but that really feels like balling up the lore and tossing it out. Seriously 'rocks fall, everyone dies' for the Retribution, in favor of sad vampire fanfics.
Greylords as functionally traitors is a bit too on-the-nose as well. Ruthlessly pragmatic, sure. But that implies a pretty complete purge of all but the most nobly loyal chosen ones.
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2022/08/04 16:08:33
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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A lot of this was pulling the trigger on the setup that felt like it would never go anywhere and made the fluff feel stagnant in MK2. What happens if the last elf god dies was a big question. The big surprise was we got an answer.
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2022/08/05 11:16:53
Subject: Re:New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I mean... I get it. Its a bit like nuking the old world combined with primaris but pp had to do somethimg.
One of my big disappointments in mk3 was how everything just... reset. They closed so many good storylines and then rested on their laurels.
Honestly the mk4 changes should have been done in mk3.
Khador is going to look very different I think anf it'll be interesting to see how and if cryx and the protectorate get a look in (I know thr latter was decimated in the lore by the grymkin and infernals) so we shall see. I think vampire elves will be a very interesting concept to see how it looks.
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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2022/08/05 15:55:36
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, bringing an end to the Cygnar/Khador war with Khador claiming Llael after the two worked together with Menoth to drive Cryx off the continent took forever to get to the point, but left things in an interesting place. Then mk3 started and Cygnar attacked Khador to reclaim Llael and I effectively lost track of who was doing what for the majority of mk3.
Part of that is definitely that they just didn't have a good fluff delivery system. Skull Island Expeditions started dumping too much content, with a lot of it being both irrelevant to the ongoing story and not very good. There were definitely exceptions; the Butcher book is irrelevant and quite good and the books that WERE relevant aren't bad, just very hard to parse out. A lot of it fell to popular characters which kind of shifted all the fluff towards a Cygnar niche when Cygnar was at a rather uninteresting place.
The faction books had zero appeal for players outside of that faction, No Quarter was set up like faction books that meant you were only interested in specific issues and when the fluff shifted to the leagues I don't think anyone realized it was worth following. I'm glad Twitter somehow worked to tell the actual apocalypse (there's something poetic about that....) and probably showed how the setting thrives with a bit more Saturday morning action writing than the low energy intrigue that dominated mk2.
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2022/08/06 04:13:21
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Central Valley, California
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the 80mm Khador model -- that's an official leak / preview?
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~ Shrap
Rolling 1's for five decades.
AoS * Konflikt '47 * Conquest Last Argument of Kings * Team Yankee * Horus Heresy * The Old World * Armoured Clash |
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2022/08/07 05:48:59
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Zephyr is the 80 mm Cygnar model. Khador is getting a tank.
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2022/08/08 02:46:40
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Terrifying Doombull
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LunarSol wrote:The Zephyr is the 80 mm Cygnar model. Khador is getting a tank.
Well, an armored Segway with guns strapped on and the driver stands with torso and head exposed like a fool.
The driver is also presumably quite deaf with a feth-off cannon beside each ear, and no range of vision (other than exactly forward) beyond climbing a bit onto the armored cowling to try to peer past the guns.
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2022/08/08 14:04:29
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Fixture of Dakka
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Voss wrote: LunarSol wrote:The Zephyr is the 80 mm Cygnar model. Khador is getting a tank.
Well, an armored Segway with guns strapped on and the driver stands with torso and head exposed like a fool.
The driver is also presumably quite deaf with a feth-off cannon beside each ear, and no range of vision (other than exactly forward) beyond climbing a bit onto the armored cowling to try to peer past the guns.
Sorry, Khador is getting a Khadoran tank.
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2022/08/08 15:10:08
Subject: New Cygnar + Khador Previews = It's MK4, Baby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LunarSol wrote:Voss wrote: LunarSol wrote:The Zephyr is the 80 mm Cygnar model. Khador is getting a tank.
Well, an armored Segway with guns strapped on and the driver stands with torso and head exposed like a fool.
The driver is also presumably quite deaf with a feth-off cannon beside each ear, and no range of vision (other than exactly forward) beyond climbing a bit onto the armored cowling to try to peer past the guns.
Sorry, Khador is getting a Khadoran tank.
'Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams' wrote the lovestruck khadoran tank-driving poet.
Not as bad as the two khadoran fish in a tank. 'How do you drive this thing'. They were floundering.
truly a tank-less task. :p
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greatest band in the universe: machine supremacy
"Punch your fist in the air and hold your Gameboy aloft like the warrior you are" |
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