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 BertBert wrote:
The base also seems to be warped and not flush with the surface. Could that be a resin base?

It's not warped, it's round...

Orchomen wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
The base also seems to be warped and not flush with the surface. Could that be a resin base?

It's not warped, it's round...

Are we talking about the same picture?

If that's the original model from way back when, it's possible the base has warped over the years since, especially since they've repainted it at least once (so it ain't green no more).

 Shakalooloo wrote:
If that's the original model from way back when, it's possible the base has warped over the years since, especially since they've repainted it at least once (so it ain't green no more).

But it can't be the same base because it's noticeably bigger than the classic WHFB cavalry bases. Could be a custom display base though and entirely unrelated to a potential new basing system.

Did none of you notice that it's posed at an angle? If you take one of your Calvary bases and turn it 30° from facing laterally across you to where it's sort of turning towards your shoulder, it's going to make the base look longer because you're looking at both sides of the edge instead of just the long side itself.


EDIT: typed face instead of edge, and corrected it

 Just Tony wrote:
Did none of you notice that it's posed at an angle? If you take one of your Calvary bases and turn it 30° from facing laterally across you to where it's sort of turning towards your shoulder, it's going to make the base look longer because you're looking at both sides of the edge instead of just alongside itself.


EDIT: typed face instead of edge, and corrected it

The video has a 360° shot, it's definitely larger.

 herjan1987 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

 herjan1987 wrote:
But I wonder why did they show off the plastic knight kit and the Grail knights aswell

Imagine you joined the hobby after AoS was established. Those knights would give some context to the weird malplaced medieval knight.
And at the same time generate some easy nostalgia for the veterans. (its a really nice paintjob too )

Started my journey of Warhammer with Total War: Warhammer early trailers. I was bit of on the fence to buy minis, when they started the "Great Purge" of Fantasy minis. If I was 2 months early then I have had bought a bucket loads of those knigths aswell as Tomb Kings and variuos other minis like the High elf Handmaiden.

Btw someone noticed on Facebook, that the Green Knight on the last celebration video has bigger base, then he used too.


The 25*50 mm base



The celebration video base


See the little cloth/feathers on the horses head is out of the base on the original and it is still inside the base on the celebration video.

Tony here is a picture from the video compared with an older image from the same angle.

I saw it, and between positioning and orientation of other model elements I think it's a standard cav base.


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I think if we got pictures of both models from head on showing the front edge of the base that you'll see it's probably going to match up a little better

It's true, it's also noticeably wider than the bases in the plastic knight photos below.

No, it's absolutely a longer base. This unpainted one is on a standard cav slotta base is taken from a higher angle, but still shows the base extends from the butt to the foreleg and the tail and most of the plume extend beyond the base. On the new green Knights the base is clearly longer, and extends includes the plume and tail

I'm a little disappointed in the rumored release order. Empire is not lacking for plastics and had a lot of updates before WHFB got squatted.

Brets on the other hand really do need a lot of love. And since they're mostly cavalry, they'll be an expensive army to get into without the support of a box set.

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
It's true, it's also noticeably wider than the bases in the plastic knight photos below.

Random thought. It's on aos cavalry base. 75x42mm.

Does anyone has a Green knight with square base at hand? If not then I will find the ones that own to settle this question.

 Breotan wrote:
I'm a little disappointed in the rumored release order. Empire is not lacking for plastics and had a lot of updates before WHFB got squatted.

There's probably data from the TW games showing how popular Empire is to play which might be a factor. Though to be fair playing as humans with sweet gunpowder weapons and charismatic voice acting in a game is completely different to picking a TT army to assemble/paint/play.

 Breotan wrote:
I'm a little disappointed in the rumored release order. Empire is not lacking for plastics and had a lot of updates before WHFB got squatted.

The thing is, it's very likely that the current Empire range will be mostly wiped out once the new City of Sigmar models drop. Things like the Celestial Hurricanum, Gryphon, demigrph knights, and thing will be okay, but I imagine the basic troops, cannons, and anything that was released in the last Empire wave will be replaced.

Continuing the off-topic BUT regarding the green knights the studio painted up two versions over the years. There is the original Mike McVey paint job with the more intricate banners and was featured in White Dwarf at the original release. I saw the real thing at the 'eavy metal desks at the NIA Games Day way back when and asked how he'd done the freehand vines and they said 'no idea and he did it in no time too' There is a later studio version (too late at night to find the WD ref now!) where they said they'd redone it and given it less ornate banners but no real explanation why they bothered. The McVey version was certainly on a classic cavalry base as per attached.

 herjan1987 wrote:
Does anyone has a Green knight with square base at hand? If not then I will find the ones that own to settle this question.

I have one in resin. It came with a 25mmx50mm cav base like any other cavalry.

Wow, what a fascinating discussion that has nothing to do wit the topic. Again. Offenders will be shot at dawn.

Triplegrim sent me a photo of his own Green Knight with a 25*50 mm base and yeah, if we compare it with the one in the video we clearly see the diferrence.





So its likely safe to say we are getting new bases.

Not the worst thing, but hopefully spacers will be available. So many cav units basically could not fit in two ranks with current bases.

Is there actually any indication that's been rebased for ToW, though? Has that specific painted model been shown before and has been re-based since the last time it was seen? Some other models for that 40 years of Warhammer thing haven't been rebased with something more current, like the original Space Marine.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Is there actually any indication that's been rebased for ToW, though? Has that specific painted model been shown before and has been re-based since the last time it was seen? Some other models for that 40 years of Warhammer thing haven't been rebased with something more current, like the original Space Marine.

GW has never sold 30x60 rectangular bases before and, outside of what we've been told about ToW, has otherwise entirely abandoned rectilinear bases. A rumour comes along that they're increasing the base sizes in ToW, including one with the dimensions of 30x60, and then less than a week later, this green knight appears on a noticeably larger base.

Are you suggesting that they custom made a larger base to place this previously painted green knight on just for the lulz? What else would it be rebased for?

Or it's just on a round base that would have been used for AoS.

You can see the corner edge in this photo. It's not a rounded base.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Is there actually any indication that's been rebased for ToW, though?

not necessarily for TOW, it was just shown with the new base in context to TOW
might be still a different reason why they have done it and had no other picture available

other possibility is that GW is re-basing and painting stuff to make new promo pictures for the TOW books from ranges that are not yet produced or designed (hence no 3D print available)

other point is, there were no rules for bases in the last 2 Editions of Warhammer, so good chance there won't be any in the next ones and GW just puts models on the base they think it will look best

 kodos wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Is there actually any indication that's been rebased for ToW, though?

not necessarily for TOW, it was just shown with the new base in context to TOW
might be still a different reason why they have done it and had no other picture available

other possibility is that GW is re-basing and painting stuff to make new promo pictures for the TOW books from ranges that are not yet produced or designed (hence no 3D print available)

other point is, there were no rules for bases in the last 2 Editions of Warhammer, so good chance there won't be any in the next ones and GW just puts models on the base they think it will look best

It's one of Mike McVey's models painted to a quality worth them highlighting in the article which they haven't really done on others, it just seems more likely to me that either it just happened to be put on that base in the first place, or the perspective just makes it seem like its bigger, than they've risked damaging an old exceptionally painted model by removing it from the base to put it on a new one just to tie it in with the Old World.

Just look in the comparison made on the last page and posts above yours

it is bigger and not just looks like it (specially as perspective is out of question with a 360° view)

and you can make bases bigger without removing the original one, not like we have been already thru that with the increase from 25 to 32 in 40k

 Mentlegen324 wrote:


It's one of Mike McVey's models painted to a quality worth them highlighting in the article which they haven't really done on others, it just seems more likely to me that either it just happened to be put on that base in the first place, or the perspective just makes it seem like its bigger, than they've risked damaging an old exceptionally painted model by removing it from the base to put it on a new one just to tie it in with the Old World.

They can always cut the base. Lets not forget, GW was the one, who showed, the players how to do that. Also the Green Knight has really small contact point with the base so there is less possebility for faulire. This could be a metal version of the model, and therefore there is even less chance of breakage.

Why rebase him? Maybe, because its a timeless model and they will re-release it, its actually a one of the romours, that old models will be available again. You know dont fix what is not broken.

Could be rebased to match the basing style of new units for group photos.

New rumor from Faeit 212. The Old World will be a small 2023 release (as Epic).

Seems credible. Even logical, if its going to come out in 2023.

https://natfka.blogspot.com/2023/04/rumors-old-world.html?m=1

Warhammer The Old World will be just (like Epic) a small release. We get the Launch Box, Rulebook, the Compendium and an Accessories Pack for returnee Players.

They want to fill the "40 Years of Warhammer" Topic without blunders. Bigger releases then in Early 2024 before they go "all in" with Warhammer Age of Sigmar...


Youtubers have also picked it up.

https://youtu.be/BMw4x73Xlbg