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I'm glad they are printing bases on unit profiles! I've been asking for a base chart for AGES adn its a great thing.

Yeah rebasing sucks, but at least having clear guidelines on what goes on what clears the air. Far better than when we had Tyranid Warriors running around on different bases in different sets sold at the same time which were both different to historic bases just leading to confusion.



Edit - news is still great but darn it I mixed up threads and thought this was 40K

Gotta dream that they do the same for 40K new edition!

Spent ages rebasing to round AoS (O&G army), its not fun so yeah good luck with that.

No need to rebase anything when you can use movement trays.

The scale creep for bases Will make easier to take AoS armies and put them in movement trays for TOW use with round bases

Presumably the old 25mm bases go to 32mm squares to match the 40k round equivalents?

Then you could have trays to fit the circles and have AoS / W:OW compatability?

 NAVARRO wrote:
Spent ages rebasing to round AoS (O&G army), its not fun so yeah good luck with that.

Yeah, not rebasing 600+ Skaven, 500+ Goblins, plus all the other armies with 100-300 models.

The base creep will also allow some more dynamic WHFB units as well, which I'm all for. As much as I dislike AOS, one of it's few positives is the dynamism and beauty of some of the new models.

While WHFB is never going to have this fully, aside from with characters and monsters, it's a decent half way house allowing for a bit more flair in the rank and file.

For people moaning about having to rebase, just use movement trays.

Finally! Trying to rank up 6th - 8th edition kits is such a pain...I have way too many units that have to be assembled in exactly the same way every time or they don't rank up at all.

I probably won't actually re-base my current armies but invest in some new movement trays with spacers so I can switch between editions if I needed.

Increases in bases sizes were always coming, so it is nice to have that confirmed.

The use of old models in the preview is very interesting though. Does this suggest that the Bretonnian parts they revealed a while back are going to be upgrade sprues, rather than a complete new kit? The artwork they released a few months ago showed knights similar to the old kits.

Also, they have ranked the Brets up in a fifth edition lance formation. Does this mean anything regarding rules and how many models we will get in a box? I assumed it would be five per box, but the lance formation needs six.

Finally, in the photo showing the archers there are blurry goblins(?) in the foreground. Does this confirm their inclusion in the OW? So many questions. It is all very exciting!

MvR wrote:


Finally, in the photo showing the archers there are blurry goblins(?) in the foreground. Does this confirm their inclusion in the OW? So many questions. It is all very exciting!

Orcs or Goblins, but definatly part of Orcs and Goblins. Maybe they will, have next highlight?

 Londinium wrote:
The base creep will also allow some more dynamic WHFB units as well, which I'm all for. As much as I dislike AOS, one of it's few positives is the dynamism and beauty of some of the new models.

While WHFB is never going to have this fully, aside from with characters and monsters, it's a decent half way house allowing for a bit more flair in the rank and file.

For people moaning about having to rebase, just use movement trays.

If they were smart they'd do some unit fillers at least for horde armies like Skaven, Undead and O&G, both for old players to have something new to paint and for newer ones not needing to paint north of a hundred goblins or whatever...

Can anyone speak to the lore around this time regarding Orcs and Goblins...were they united as 1 army or would they be separate from each other and act as 2 independent armies...apologies if this is a silly question but I'm not super up to date on the lore and my little brother is starting O&G and we're both curious about this.

For those upset about rebasing, I plan on playing competitively and don't plan on rebasing right now. Rather using movement trays.

I don't envy anybody trying to get a decent looking Finecast trebuchet...

Hmmm to my eyes the new cavalry bases don't seem to be quite big enough to accomodate the smallest AoS oval base tho. So no dual use minis with clever TOW trays.

 nathan2004 wrote:
Can anyone speak to the lore around this time regarding Orcs and Goblins...were they united as 1 army or would they be separate from each other and act as 2 independent armies...apologies if this is a silly question but I'm not super up to date on the lore and my little brother is starting O&G and we're both curious about this.

For those upset about rebasing, I plan on playing competitively and don't plan on rebasing right now. Rather using movement trays.

You could have pure Goblin or pure Ork armies, but mixed forces were the normal case. Orks had rules that allowed them to ignore Panic checks etc. that resulted from Goblin units getting destroyed, and their magic lores were separate. You could also have pure armies composed of goblin tribes like Night Goblins or Forest Goblins. Most O&G armies also included various monsters like Giants, several varieties of Trolls and other things, and more specialized units like e.g. Squigs or Spider Riders where locked behind having units of appropriate-tribe goblin footsloggers etc., while e.g. Black Orks were limited in number.

A reply from Warhammer to a comment on the Facebook post for the article seems to confirm that old kits are coming back which is fantastic. It will allow for everyone to play their favoured armies at release!


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 herjan1987 wrote:

MvR wrote:


Finally, in the photo showing the archers there are blurry goblins(?) in the foreground. Does this confirm their inclusion in the OW? So many questions. It is all very exciting!

Orcs or Goblins, but definatly part of Orcs and Goblins. Maybe they will, have next highlight?

Or that they might be released in a box with the Brets? Starter box clues? Get me a corkboard, some pins, and a ball of string!

If the bases are the same diameter as in AoS, couldn't I just build a movement tray with round spots and use them that way?

Smart move to my mind and its exactly the same as old Fantasy, just make some movement trays and you're grand. I'll be buggered if I'm going to rebase my High Elves but seems like a very easy fix.

Also for horde armies, I'm glad they are making larger bases. Same scale with bigger bases is the right choice really.

Also that Red and Black scheme for that Bret army is dead nice.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
If the bases are the same diameter as in AoS, couldn't I just build a movement tray with round spots and use them that way?

Likely fine for infantry regiments and such but most heroes are on larger bases than their fellow units. Like a vampire lord is on a 40mm round and skeletons/zombies are on 25mm rounds. I would be shocked if, in The Old World, vampires are on 40mm squares.

From the WarCom article "Knights of the Realm (on foot and mounted)"

I didn't play Brets before so my knowledge is limited but were foot knights a thing?

Heck one generation of Old World they started putting mounted and on foot lords in several races if I recall right.

 nathan2004 wrote:
From the WarCom article "Knights of the Realm (on foot and mounted)"

I didn't play Brets before so my knowledge is limited but were foot knights a thing?

Only with the Virtue of Empathy.

Now I'm glad I didn't build any of the flesh eater courts stuff I got to start a vampire counts army, save the terrorgheist.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
From the WarCom article "Knights of the Realm (on foot and mounted)"

I didn't play Brets before so my knowledge is limited but were foot knights a thing?

Only with the Virtue of Empathy.

And pre-6th.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
From the WarCom article "Knights of the Realm (on foot and mounted)"

I didn't play Brets before so my knowledge is limited but were foot knights a thing?

Only with the Virtue of Empathy.

And pre-6th.

I got the impression they were talking about units of foot knights rather than nobles leading peasants.

So what are the odds that all these old kits they're bringing back are going to end up being direct order only?

 Tronbot2600 wrote:
Finally! Trying to rank up 6th - 8th edition kits is such a pain...I have way too many units that have to be assembled in exactly the same way every time or they don't rank up at all.

I probably won't actually re-base my current armies but invest in some new movement trays with spacers so I can switch between editions if I needed.

Have to agree. When I saw the base size rumor over at Faeit I took out my 3 x 20 stormvermin and 3 x 30 clanrats and they simply cant rank up with command and a hero. Not without some difficulty at least.

If they make 20 models the size of a large infantry unit, 25mm is ok to increase to. For friendly games with old armies, no big deal if you dont rebase.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So what are the odds that all these old kits they're bringing back are going to end up being direct order only?

I feel like there will be a core of new kits which will be in stores, and then all the old stuff is direct only. Besides the stuff which shares models with aos.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
From the WarCom article "Knights of the Realm (on foot and mounted)"

I didn't play Brets before so my knowledge is limited but were foot knights a thing?

Only with the Virtue of Empathy.

And pre-6th.

I got the impression they were talking about units of foot knights rather than nobles leading peasants.

They were. Bretonnians had units of foot Knights pre-6th edition.

Acquired a bunch of Brett’s recently that I may consider painting, but not basing. Will wait for that. A lot of cav (I think 3 full units of realm, plus unit of questing), peg knights, characters (but not green knight, boo), trebuchet, archers…. For free. Told my buddy that he would have to accept $100 or no deal.

Only army I ever regret selling previously, but at least I can redo them.

The terrain in the pictures has a nice retro feel. And just look at those trees! Didn’t they sell those some 20 years ago?