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No leaks regarding what they are previewing on Sunday (8:00 am CST)...Best case they announce this is dropping in November/December and maybe even preview some of the rules. If that's the case, wonder if we will start learning more about the game post 10th ed 40k release beyond the monthly updates.

Don't they only preview things releasing within a 3 month window?

They could make some "work in progress" type of previews with no release dates announced, but which give a glimpse of what work is being done.

That's true, they did that with SOBs and the new world eaters, I believe.

I'm just glad the project looks like it's nearing completion for release.

I really hope the Empire factions have a core of “The Same” units but then very faction specific ones. I want some Knights of Manann templar knights for the Marienburg faction all decked out in sea iconography.

Cataphract wrote:
I really hope the Empire factions have a core of “The Same” units but then very faction specific ones. I want some Knights of Manann templar knights for the Marienburg faction all decked out in sea iconography.

Would not hold my breath, though some iconography to pick from in the box sprue might be possible.

Pretty sure there will be a cult of ulrik army and a cult of sigmar army, wolfy wolf and skully skulls respectively.

With the arty school at nuln we are probably looking at shooty empire faction, infantry faction of empire and religious or something faction of empire.

Then probably some heroes for each faction of the civil war, which granted will be more interesting than everyone being servants of Karl Franz. Hoping for some real antiheroes though here and there.

I still have my old Delfs, Emp and O&G armies stored, but... if I'm being honest I'm more interested on seeing if the "new" system could work with 10mm/Warmaster minis, as I'm currently more interested in smaller scales, particularly for this kinda game.

I mean, Warmaster is cool, so it's not a problem either way, but I'm just wondering ^^

Unlikely. Model based removal, unit shape dependant on number of models in unit etc

Really hoping tomorrow is something decent, otherwise this Warhammer Fest has been a bit of a wet squib for my liking...

Based on the noon showing today, I'm tempering my expectations for the old world preview tomorrow to be some 3D renders at best.

Eiríkr wrote:
Really hoping tomorrow is something decent, otherwise this Warhammer Fest has been a bit of a wet squib for my liking...

I am hoping for some Brets, even a single knight or peasant infantry would be cool.

Eiríkr wrote:
Really hoping tomorrow is something decent, otherwise this Warhammer Fest has been a bit of a wet squib for my liking...

Huh. Its been exactly what I expected so far- the 40k launch box and season boxes for Underworlds and Warcry. Not sure what else they would've shown. LotR is a little disappointing with a just a tiny diorama, but its not really my game.

Tomorrow has the question mark on it. Particularly old world and HH can potentially be deeply disappointing, or really exciting. AoS is likely just the reveal of the next set of books.
KT monday is probably just the last of the space hulk letdown.

Voss wrote:

Eiríkr wrote:
Really hoping tomorrow is something decent, otherwise this Warhammer Fest has been a bit of a wet squib for my liking...

Huh. Its been exactly what I expected so far- the 40k launch box and season boxes for Underworlds and Warcry. Not sure what else they would've shown. LotR is a little disappointing with a just a tiny diorama, but its not really my game.

Tomorrow has the question mark on it. Particularly old world and HH can potentially be deeply disappointing, or really exciting. AoS is likely just the reveal of the next set of books.
KT monday is probably just the last of the space hulk letdown.

The whole event seems kind of oddly composed - no specific seminar for Black Library, nothing on Necromunda but that non-preview for LotR... i can only explain it to myself by them being a bit out of the whole 'organizing a huge event' game after just doing stuff online for years.

Voss wrote:

Eiríkr wrote:
Really hoping tomorrow is something decent, otherwise this Warhammer Fest has been a bit of a wet squib for my liking...

Huh. Its been exactly what I expected so far- the 40k launch box and season boxes for Underworlds and Warcry. Not sure what else they would've shown. LotR is a little disappointing with a just a tiny diorama, but its not really my game.

Tomorrow has the question mark on it. Particularly old world and HH can potentially be deeply disappointing, or really exciting. AoS is likely just the reveal of the next set of books.
KT monday is probably just the last of the space hulk letdown.

I'm not a 40K player, it doesn't interest me at all and the shiny new bits for 10th Edition were expected. Since the split Warcry/Underworld/Middle-Earth slot was supposed to be 90 minutes long (but ended up being a measly 28!), and that's what I checked in for, I was left feeling pretty cold - mostly for the Middle Earth. I am now expecting 3D renders, maybe some artwork or something, for tomorrow's Old World peek.

So warhammer fest showed a bretonnian resin paladin and a tomb king foot hero.

Some artwork in the style of black and white 6th edition armybook (looked GREAT imo) and some wishy washy news we already had.

I'm a little letdown. When is this game going to come out, yo?

Well not in the next 3 months - that's 40K new edition territory.

Right now I'd say we are looking at perhaps end of this year at BEST for Old World and more practically early next year

Very disappointing announcement for The Old World. Basically the contents of what would come in a weekly WarCom article. Could prove the rumored Brets v Tomb Kings box set true, though, based on the announced first factions.

But yes, that announcement was very lackluster.

~iPaint

Made a point of saying focus will be on supporting factions fighting in the Old World location, so guessing that Naggaroth, Ulthuan and Lustria based forces are not going feature in the release plan, at least not in the beginning.

All 8th Edition factions will be playable though


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Also, Old World got the biggest cheer and chants of "We want more!"

 Flashman wrote:
Made a point of saying focus will be on supporting factions fighting in the Old World location, so guessing that Naggaroth, Ulthuan and Lustria based forces are not going feature in the release plan, at least not in the beginning.

All 8th Edition factions will be playable though


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Also, Old World got the biggest cheer and chants of "We want more!"

So what armies aren't likely to be part of this much, then? They mentioned it'll be on the ones "fighting in the old world" in this time period, but I have no idea who that means specifically. I'd presume not really Lizardmen/Elves.

Empire, Orcs, Dwarfs, Tomb Kings, Bretonnia, Chaos, at least?

Old World article link:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/30/warhammer-the-old-world-a-noble-bretonnian-paladin-stands-up-to-a-tomb-king/

 -iPaint- wrote:
Very disappointing announcement for The Old World. Basically the contents of what would come in a weekly WarCom article. Could prove the rumored Brets v Tomb Kings box set true, though, based on the announced first factions.

But yes, that announcement was very lackluster.

~iPaint

It's good enough for me to have confirmation that GW isn't just screwing around and Tomb Kings and Bretonnians are actually the first two factions. I'd like to be able to buy Tomb Kings kits again (good ones anyway) and the sooner that happens, the better.

 Flashman wrote:


Also, Old World got the biggest cheer and chants of "We want more!"

Interesting, the twitch stream chat was very bitter about it and repeatedly said it should just stay dead... very rude community there overall.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

So what armies aren't likely to be part of this much, then? They mentioned it'll be on the ones "fighting in the old world" in this time period, but I have no idea who that means specifically. I'd presume not really Lizardmen/Elves.

Empire, Orcs, Dwarfs, Tomb Kings, Bretonnia, Chaos, at least?

They said every army will be playable, they're just focusing on armies at the time period with regards to new releases.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Flashman wrote:


Also, Old World got the biggest cheer and chants of "We want more!"

Interesting, the twitch stream chat was very bitter about it and repeatedly said it should just stay dead... very rude community there overall.

That's just the usual damage control / antagonism from bad actors. Hardcore AoS fans want to see ToW crash and burn, and the other side wants to see AoS replaced by ToW. Best to not pay attention to these shitters in the first place.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Flashman wrote:


Also, Old World got the biggest cheer and chants of "We want more!"

Interesting, the twitch stream chat was very bitter about it and repeatedly said it should just stay dead... very rude community there overall.

Typical Twitch chat of whiny babies. Lots of crying about resin releases despite it being very clear from the beginning that this was the Fantasy "Horus Heresy".

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

So what armies aren't likely to be part of this much, then? They mentioned it'll be on the ones "fighting in the old world" in this time period, but I have no idea who that means specifically. I'd presume not really Lizardmen/Elves.

Empire, Orcs, Dwarfs, Tomb Kings, Bretonnia, Chaos, at least?

They said every army will be playable, they're just focusing on armies at the time period with regards to new releases.

Yes, they'll all be playable, but there's a big difference between that and actually being involved in this in a proper capacity.

If you want to read some tempering into it, Kislev may not get an army release close to launch and Chaos Dwarfs and Cathay are way in the future.

Now this:

No starter set isn't an outright bad thing. Starter sets are typically 2 army deals not 1 army deals and they are right.

Most of us getting starter set are often looking to trade away half the set anyway. It's really only pure new people buying sets as a pair of friends and such. That's at least GW's "intent" with two army starters.


So no two army starter isn't a bad thing, esp if they perhaps did a single starter set per faction with a rulebook or battletome rolled in - army sets.

Hey now, some of us are buying starters to expand two armies.

So they are really doing the worst we expected?

bringing back old models and mix in some new ones
I guess they showed up the old Bretonnia models in the last article because they are going to stay

cannot wait on GW selling the 30 year old skeleton kit and people praising it as the best one that was ever released by any company and totally wort the 40€ for 10 models /s