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Phew. Not only one seeing square then

Just the perfect amount of detail and bling on this chick. Not too much and not too plain either.

Is she riding a monstrous creature at 50x50 Nd if so, is she not rather large, or at least the unicorn is?

The heroes have always posed next to the units on promo photos for late middlehammer and onwards. How else would the buyer know its a hero?

What model is that behind the mounted captain. The single model, don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

 nathan2004 wrote:
What model is that behind the mounted captain. The single model, don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

Empire fire wizard.

 nathan2004 wrote:
What model is that behind the mounted captain. The single model, don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

It was the exclusive model for that box that they used to do for these pre-release army boxes. They were often standard bearers, that one is a Fire Wizard, as Apple fox said.

Thanks ImAGeek for filling in the details!
They actually pop up on eBay fairly often for fair prices considering GW oop stuff.

I wonder if GW will bring back some of the exclusives now.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
What model is that behind the mounted captain. The single model, don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

It was the exclusive model for that box that they used to do for these pre-release army boxes. They were often standard bearers, that one is a Fire Wizard, as Apple fox said.

Didn't the Empire get both that wizard AND a BSB? I remember them getting a pewter BSB where he's holding the banner up by the very bottom of the post.

 Just Tony wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
What model is that behind the mounted captain. The single model, don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

It was the exclusive model for that box that they used to do for these pre-release army boxes. They were often standard bearers, that one is a Fire Wizard, as Apple fox said.

Didn't the Empire get both that wizard AND a BSB? I remember them getting a pewter BSB where he's holding the banner up by the very bottom of the post.

May have been 2 different edition boxes?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Just Tony wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
What model is that behind the mounted captain. The single model, don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

It was the exclusive model for that box that they used to do for these pre-release army boxes. They were often standard bearers, that one is a Fire Wizard, as Apple fox said.

Didn't the Empire get both that wizard AND a BSB? I remember them getting a pewter BSB where he's holding the banner up by the very bottom of the post.

May have been 2 different edition boxes?

From memory the Metal BSB came out in 6th Edition big army box alongside things like the metal greatswords. The Bright Wizard was maybe the 7th Edition and is...plastic? Can't recall.

Just double checked. The Bright Wizard was the 7th Ed. army box exclusive. The 6th Ed. had a BSB like all the other sets.

Just a side remark in this Valrak video but he heard that The Old World is pushed back to next year with Legions Imperialis taking its original spot

well yes but actually......

or the other way, GW is considering IL much more important than doing a 40 years of Warhammer TOW release

either TOW was not planned to be a big part of the 40 years celebration in the first place (unlike some people predicted) or GW thinks the fan-base of old Epic is much much larger than the Warhammer Fantasy fan-base so to switching them for the celebration is the better choice

either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

 kodos wrote:
well yes but actually......

or the other way, GW is considering IL much more important than doing a 40 years of Warhammer TOW release

either TOW was not planned to be a big part of the 40 years celebration in the first place (unlike some people predicted) or GW thinks the fan-base of old Epic is much much larger than the Warhammer Fantasy fan-base so to switching them for the celebration is the better choice

either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

Well, from what I've seen of models, it seems likely that gw has a IL game. Tow? Probably not. Look for a 2026 release or something.

 kodos wrote:


either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

They have brought The Old World back, something that many thought would never happen, but we still have to moan about something, eh?

 triplegrim wrote:

 kodos wrote:
well yes but actually......

or the other way, GW is considering IL much more important than doing a 40 years of Warhammer TOW release

either TOW was not planned to be a big part of the 40 years celebration in the first place (unlike some people predicted) or GW thinks the fan-base of old Epic is much much larger than the Warhammer Fantasy fan-base so to switching them for the celebration is the better choice

either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

Well, from what I've seen of models, it seems likely that gw has a IL game. Tow? Probably not. Look for a 2026 release or something.

So they reveal four new miniatures, three years before anyone can actually buy them, to achieve...what, exactly? The leaked plastic Bretonnian sprue also confirms that new plastics *are* coming, even if said kits are limited in number.

 Matrindur wrote:
Just a side remark in this Valrak video but he heard that The Old World is pushed back to next year with Legions Imperialis taking its original spot

Awkward that nothing at all was released in that spot then

Matrindur wrote:Just a side remark in this Valrak video but he heard that The Old World is pushed back to next year with Legions Imperialis taking its original spot

Yeah... no. LI getting actually delayed is an extreme outlyer. What gets released by GW is 99% of the time released when it was supposed to be. Why people still believe that something in the next few months can be changed willynilly is completely beyond me.

triplegrim wrote:Well, from what I've seen of models, it seems likely that gw has a IL game. Tow? Probably not. Look for a 2026 release or something.

Sure, GW is actively advertising the game already, with pictures of finished models, and we know plastics are in production... for a product to be released in three years? Things that don't happen for $200. TOW is out in the next twelve months, possibly six.

Sathrut wrote:So they reveal four new miniatures, three years before anyone can actually buy them, to achieve...what, exactly? The leaked plastic Bretonnian sprue also confirms that new plastics *are* coming, even if said kits are limited in number.

This. We know the model range for TOW is in production already, with the first kits already done - you can not pick up sprues of something that has not be cast yet. Add the active promotion of the whole thing - not vague snippets and maps, but rules and model previews - and you have something to be released in the next months.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 kodos wrote:


either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

They have brought The Old World back, something that many thought would never happen, but we still have to moan about something, eh?

ny now they brought nothing back but just shown pictures of upcoming resin models
you can call me out when GW finally brings the Old World back, but until that happens, we may call them out for bad marketing and everything else

but I get it, the old angry grognards would be happy to pay 100€ for an empty book with "we screwed you" on the last page and still would defend GW for finally listening and bringing warhammer fantasy back

I reckon Mordheim is going to be part of The Old World, and it might be the case that it's being designed alongside it.

Skirmish games are very popular and while Kill Team has Warcry, Necromunda is currently without a fantasy alternative. Both Mordheim and The Old World have the potential to share models and terrain, and together provide enough reason to return to the WHFB setting.

SamusDrake wrote:
I reckon Mordheim is going to be part of The Old World, and it might be the case that it's being designed alongside it.

Skirmish games are very popular and while Kill Team has Warcry, Necromunda is currently without a fantasy alternative. Both Mordheim and The Old World have the potential to share models and terrain, and together provide enough reason to return to the WHFB setting.

Tuomas Pirinen and a few of the other guys from the MH design team did release a photo 2 or 3 years ago with them being in England working on a gw project. Seemed to be just playtesting at the time...

Did you hear any rumors, or are you just wish listing?

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 kodos wrote:


either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

They have brought The Old World back, something that many thought would never happen, but we still have to moan about something, eh?

So just doing something with a part of the old world again means its perfect and all criticism should be avoided, then?

Sathrut wrote:

 triplegrim wrote:

 kodos wrote:
well yes but actually......

or the other way, GW is considering IL much more important than doing a 40 years of Warhammer TOW release

either TOW was not planned to be a big part of the 40 years celebration in the first place (unlike some people predicted) or GW thinks the fan-base of old Epic is much much larger than the Warhammer Fantasy fan-base so to switching them for the celebration is the better choice

either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

Well, from what I've seen of models, it seems likely that gw has a IL game. Tow? Probably not. Look for a 2026 release or something.

So they reveal four new miniatures, three years before anyone can actually buy them, to achieve...what, exactly? The leaked plastic Bretonnian sprue also confirms that new plastics *are* coming, even if said kits are limited in number.

It's his favourite vaporvare theory. He love to prove how wrong he is so nobody ever believes him.


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 kodos wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 kodos wrote:


either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

They have brought The Old World back, something that many thought would never happen, but we still have to moan about something, eh?

ny now they brought nothing back but just shown pictures of upcoming resin models
you can call me out when GW finally brings the Old World back, but until that happens, we may call them out for bad marketing and everything else

but I get it, the old angry grognards would be happy to pay 100€ for an empty book with "we screwed you" on the last page and still would defend GW for finally listening and bringing warhammer fantasy back

Except they don''t release such book.

I'm sure you donate cash and run your company at negative but gw is in for profit despite what you believe.

Repeat after me: gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit.

Now what does gw want? Stijl think they want to throw cash away just for fun of it?

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 kodos wrote:


either way, GW does not think Warhammer Fantasy and their fans are important enough

They have brought The Old World back, something that many thought would never happen, but we still have to moan about something, eh?

So just doing something with a part of the old world again means its perfect and all criticism should be avoided, then?

I dunno, I mean people could wait until it actually exists as a product before heaping criticism on it, or on the designers? Maybe it's just me, but being critical of a company because you've got it into your head that they don't care about a product that they haven't even released yet is...not something that I think is productive or reasonable?

Maybe I'm in the minority here, because I know that there are a fair few people around these parts who will mock you for dare suggesting that you want to wait and see before judging something.

Crazy, isn't it?

current criticism is that after years, there is still nothing
why should we wait with this criticism until something is released?

tneva82 wrote:

Repeat after me: gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit. gw wants profit.

and how you make profit?
by doing nothing and sell it for a high price
if people the product no matter what it will be, even invest anything, they could just release a re-print of 8th Edition, including all the errors/typos as a collectors edition and people will buy it, and they will buy the book coming after that adds the errata as well
and GW knows that very well, yet if they think it is not worth doing for a 40 year anniversary event and rather have something else to sell, they think that their profit is with another product and not with TOW

It's been really interesting seeing an attitude around TOW where a lot of people are excited about the idea of it failing, in a way I haven't really seen around any other edition or GW game. I can only assume it's sourgrapes from a segment of the AOS community who are either scared GW might turn their favour to TOW, or are bitter that the game they spent years insisting needed to die is coming back.

 triplegrim wrote:


Tuomas Pirinen and a few of the other guys from the MH design team did release a photo 2 or 3 years ago with them being in England working on a gw project. Seemed to be just playtesting at the time...

Did you hear any rumors, or are you just wish listing?

Just a casual prediction and nothing more, so hopefully this won't turn up on Faeit212 or Chapter Master Valrak along the lines of "I have it from a reliable source on Dak - I MEAN someone who is very close to James Workshop!"

WHFB, besides the odd model and Hasbro's Heroquest, was never my fancy and I can't see myself pursuing either The Old World or Mordheim when and if they return, respectively.

for my part, I just don't want to see GW having success with a lowest afford possible product

as this would only mean that the quality of the game and models will decrease while the price increase and the situation for those that actually want to play the game will be similar or worse than during late 7th/8th edition

people should demand a good product and not just being happy that there is something no matter how bad it is

 kodos wrote:
current criticism is that after years, there is still nothing
why should we wait with this criticism until something is released?

Because it takes time to make a good product? Because it's impossible to make a full assessment without seeing all of the pieces?

Why am I having to explain this to you?

than GW should just give an estimate release year and shut up until they have a good product
telling every 6 month that they are working on something is useless worse than saying nothing

PS: and GW plans 3-6 years into the future so if they have something, it will already have a release date, so they can tell us the year
if they cannot tell us, well it takes longer than those 3 years

 kodos wrote:
than GW should just give an estimate release year and shut up until they have a good product

telling every 6 month that they are working on something is useless worse than saying nothing

How is communication from GW worse than saying nothing?

Ediit: I think that Arbitrator is correct when they say that there are people who want ToW to fail, at least that's how it seems to me