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**Platuan4th**

Geifer wrote:
Thanks, Ohman! I didn't even consider a chair mounted on the pegasus. That's usually been something GW reserved for larger beasties.

The old metal Imperial Pegasus had a throne for the rider.

**Eumerin**

Never played Brets, but...

Now I'm curious what a redesign of Morathi's Dark Pegasus would look like.

**Shakalooloo**

Eumerin wrote:
Never played Brets, but...

Now I'm curious what a redesign of Morathi's Dark Pegasus would look like.

Calves that aren't one piece with the horse, one could hope.

**Vulcan**

Eumerin wrote:
Never played Brets, but...

Now I'm curious what a redesign of Morathi's Dark Pegasus would look like.

Might look a lot like a cross between the Bret Pegasus and a LOTR Fell Beast.

**tneva82**

Matrindur wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
Matrindur wrote:
Until now I thought since pegasus sprue didn't have any gates to other sprues it would be a standalone sprue that could be sold with multiple rider sprues to make different kits. (like how HH does it with many kits in that most of the sprues are the same but a few are swapped out to make different vehicles)
But I just thought of another solution. What if the rider is in resin? Since everything else they showed until now was resin it wouldn't surprise me and the rider would have more details then the pegasus so would make sense.

That's not how GW/FW does hybrid kits. Hybrid kits are done as upgrades to plastic retail kits, which means the Pegasus is either designed to be riderless(doubtful) or there's a sprue we haven't seen with at least one rider.

Not how they have done in the past but doesn't mean it couldn't happen in the future. Of course its likelier its just to be used with different plastic riders but I just wanted to share the thought

Having both materials as main kit(as opposed to resin upgrade pieces) gets rather inefficient. Basically lose the point of plastic sprue as you can't take full advantage of mass sales.

Guess gw could have started to hate profits but somehow i doubt that.

**kodos**

or they don't expect a mass sale of a single model

**tneva82**

Then they wouldn't make plastic sprue to begin with.

Plastic is profitable on mass sales. Tying it to resin cuts on mass sales.

**kodos**

depends what they are going to use the mount for

making a single plastic mount and several different resin riders makes sense if they don't expect high sales on a single character

**KidCthulhu**

I don't think I've ever seen GW sell a plastic mount without a plastic rider.

I think it's much more likely that Sir Generique will come with the plastic kit and then GW dazzles you with a fancy, resin upgrade for a special character rider (probably with an alternate head for the mount).

**kodos**

plastic mounts with metal rider were the standard for a long time in Warhammer
and if they are bringing the old models back, it might be again (although metal is much more expensive now so we might see resin instead)

**Dawnbringer**

kodos wrote:
plastic mounts with metal rider were the standard for a long time in Warhammer
and if they are bringing the old models back, it might be again (although metal is much more expensive now so we might see resin instead)

Accepting that things were once one way, I'd be surprised to see mixed medium kits. When is the last time GW released one? Not counting 'upgrades' which require purchase of two different items. I mean one kit with plastic and resin / metal in it.

**Platuan4th**

Dawnbringer wrote:
kodos wrote:
plastic mounts with metal rider were the standard for a long time in Warhammer
and if they are bringing the old models back, it might be again (although metal is much more expensive now so we might see resin instead)

Accepting that things were once one way, I'd be surprised to see mixed medium kits. When is the last time GW released one? Not counting 'upgrades' which require purchase of two different items. I mean one kit with plastic and resin / metal in it.

Not since Finecast ended.

**Voss**

The mixed metal plastic mounted kits relied on the horses (or boar or wolves) being fairly generic and replicatable across multiple kits (or a very common kit).

Looking at it, this pegasus isn't really that. Its going to be a rare enough choice that they might as well go and do the rider on the same set of sprues.

**kodos**

and yet it is still on its own instead of parts of the rider being cast on parts of it

not something GW has done for a very long time

**JSG**

kodos wrote:
and yet it is still on its own instead of parts of the rider being cast on parts of it

not something GW has done for a very long time

It'd fit with the rest of the twenty year old range.

**Fayric**

I really like the fact that the rider is not part of the mount sculpt. Gives me high hopes for the new stuff they make.
Suppose you have an old favourite hero, you could probably mount it on the new grand pegasus.

One of my favourite sculpts for Fantasy battle is the high elf prince on griffon from island of blood. But I have two, and its almost impossible to make alterations to the noble Prince.

**Vulcan**

KidCthulhu wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen GW sell a plastic mount without a plastic rider. .

6th Edition. The Cold Ones were shared between the Lizardmen and Dark Elves, so were made in plastic, but the riders were metal.

EDIT: Ninja'd....

**KidCthulhu**

Let me rephrase that; I've never seen a post 2000's hero-choice mount in plastic that didn't come with a plastic rider. I wasn't talking about cavalry, which has had generic plastic mounts for metal riders since time immemorial.

**Shakalooloo**

KidCthulhu wrote:
Let me rephrase that; I've never seen a hero-choice mount in plastic that didn't come with a plastic rider. I wasn't talking about cavalry, which has had generic plastic mounts for metal riders since time immemorial.

The plastic Talisman dragon did duty as both a Dogs of War and Dark Elf mount for a while. Its wing pieces went into otherwise fully metal monsters as well.

**KidCthulhu**

Shakalooloo wrote:
KidCthulhu wrote:
Let me rephrase that; I've never seen a hero-choice mount in plastic that didn't come with a plastic rider. I wasn't talking about cavalry, which has had generic plastic mounts for metal riders since time immemorial.

The plastic Talisman dragon did duty as both a Dogs of War and Dark Elf mount for a while. Its wing pieces went into otherwise fully metal monsters as well.

I literally added "post 2000's" to my comment just as this came in. I do remember briefly when you could buy the plastic dragon by itself. That serpentine spade-tailed bugger was the basis of almost everybody's dragons in the 90's

**Shakalooloo**

KidCthulhu wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
KidCthulhu wrote:
Let me rephrase that; I've never seen a hero-choice mount in plastic that didn't come with a plastic rider. I wasn't talking about cavalry, which has had generic plastic mounts for metal riders since time immemorial.

The plastic Talisman dragon did duty as both a Dogs of War and Dark Elf mount for a while. Its wing pieces went into otherwise fully metal monsters as well.
I literally added "post 2000's" to my comment just as this came in. I do remember briefly when you could buy the plastic dragon by itself. That serpentine spade-tailed bugger was the basis of almost everybody's dragons in the 90's

Why they never bothered to do the same with a feather-winged monster as well is a mystery to me. Plastic wings for Pegasuses, Griffons and Hippogriffs would've been neat.

**MajorWesJanson**

Dawnbringer wrote:
kodos wrote:
plastic mounts with metal rider were the standard for a long time in Warhammer
and if they are bringing the old models back, it might be again (although metal is much more expensive now so we might see resin instead)

Accepting that things were once one way, I'd be surprised to see mixed medium kits. When is the last time GW released one? Not counting 'upgrades' which require purchase of two different items. I mean one kit with plastic and resin / metal in it.

They did recently redesign a bunch of Horus Heresy vehicles recently to use the new plastic sponson weapon sprues instead of the original resin ones.

**Geifer**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
Dawnbringer wrote:
kodos wrote:
plastic mounts with metal rider were the standard for a long time in Warhammer
and if they are bringing the old models back, it might be again (although metal is much more expensive now so we might see resin instead)

Accepting that things were once one way, I'd be surprised to see mixed medium kits. When is the last time GW released one? Not counting 'upgrades' which require purchase of two different items. I mean one kit with plastic and resin / metal in it.

They did recently redesign a bunch of Horus Heresy vehicles recently to use the new plastic sponson weapon sprues instead of the original resin ones.

Those plastic sponsons exist because full plastic vehicle kits that use those sponsons exist.

If we take that as a recent precedent for GW's willingness to do hybrid kits again, we should also assume that GW committed to at least one plastic hero for the pegasus, even if the others are resin characters packed with the plastic horsey.

**Shadow Walker**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/09/warhammer-day-is-coming-and-so-are-some-juicy-new-reveals/

**lord_blackfang**

That's a great guy

**herjan1987**

Note in the article they say:

"He is the first of many reveals coming this week for Warhammer: The Old World and a host of other games, but you’ll need to tune into the live stream to catch them"

**KidCthulhu**

Hopefully this means they're really pushing plastic foot knights when the army releases.

**Kanluwen**

KidCthulhu wrote:
Hopefully this means they're really pushing plastic foot knights when the army releases.

It's resin.

**Chikout**

KidCthulhu wrote:
Hopefully this means they're really pushing plastic foot knights when the army releases.

They confirmed on twitter that tue standard bearer is resin. I think the Pegasus and a Tomb king centrepiece are the only plastics were going to get in the first wave.

**triplegrim**

herjan1987 wrote:
Note in the article they say:

"He is the first of many reveals coming this week for Warhammer: The Old World and a host of other games, but you’ll need to tune into the live stream to catch them"

No game in 2023 or 2024.

We'll probably see some infantry and a pegasus. Thats it.