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We've had such a good run with not getting any more Tomb King models, why stop now? I predict the big preview will be limited to the squire that polishes the baron's shiny metal butt.

be Nice to get some new named characters - so period specific Bretonnians or Tomb Kings that have not been done before.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Surely - surely - today is the day when The Old World will be properly revealed, right?

Not just another "And here's a new Bretonnian minis that will come out sometime in the future!" nonsense we've gotten up to now, right?

2025 release. Read my keyboardstrokes.

They will reveal a few bretonnians. Maybe a tomb king. Laugh at blueballing their fans at thats it.

Play 6th or something rather than wait for ToW. Its just a vehicle to suffocate competition for gw.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Surely - surely - today is the day when The Old World will be properly revealed, right?

Not just another "And here's a new Bretonnian minis that will come out sometime in the future!" nonsense we've gotten up to now, right?

I hope so just to put a stop to the ludicrous ‘2025’ claims every other post.

Edit: lol, hadn’t gone on to the next page. Kinda have to admire the commitment to something so in danger of being disproven within hours.

So will vaporware claimers admit being wrong as it's confirmed early 2024


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 triplegrim wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Surely - surely - today is the day when The Old World will be properly revealed, right?

Not just another "And here's a new Bretonnian minis that will come out sometime in the future!" nonsense we've gotten up to now, right?

2025 release. Read my keyboardstrokes.

They will reveal a few bretonnians. Maybe a tomb king. Laugh at blueballing their fans at thats it.

Play 6th or something rather than wait for ToW. Its just a vehicle to suffocate competition for gw.

Ahaha,. 2025. Good guess. Just year off.

as wrong as the people claiming it must be 2023 and GW will never miss the opportunity to release TOW with 40th anniversary

To be fair I can well see that GW originally planned for that. They are saying early 2024 and if you take out the pandemic and a few other messy things then they could quite easily have hit the 40th anniversary with the release

The new Bretonnia stuff looks great, and it's good to have a rough idea of when the release is.

But I still think that was just an odd preview that doesn't tell us that much, even after all this time with it being so close to release. We know what only 1 out of 9 armies planned for this game are getting. We have no idea about the other 7 armies lots at all and if they're even actually getting things at launch, if there's any sort of starter/initial box, if this is just going to be Bretonnia and someone else with us waiting to have other the armies slowly added or if they'll just all be there right away, and they didn't even show any more Tomb Kings.

It feels like they're still not revealing it properly and not committing to it enough.

 Overread wrote:
To be fair I can well see that GW originally planned for that. They are saying early 2024 and if you take out the pandemic and a few other messy things then they could quite easily have hit the 40th anniversary with the release

More like without whatever screwup triggered the recall of the LI books and the subsequent delay there. I mean people had their prerelease review copies in hand which means that preorders were due a month ago.

New miniatures are nice, but I really do see the difference between them and the old ones that will be sold along.

They will fit perfectly in a City of Sigmar converted army for sure.

 kodos wrote:
as wrong as the people claiming it must be 2023 and GW will never miss the opportunity to release TOW with 40th anniversary

There is quite a difference between "expecting late 2023, it comes out in early 2024" and "guys, guys, guuyyyysss! 2025 or 2026, for sure!". One was based on reasonable assumptions, the other was delusional trolling.

New foot knights are the star of this show for me.

I noticed the old manor house kit was shown off in the background of the video as well.

I'm really hoping that does come back (hopefully as a muti-pack bundle)

I really, really need to be able to buy it at a (mostly) reasonable price to finally be able to build a full blown warhammer-city siege table.

I wish GW would do a "MTO" for metal versions of the kits that are getting replaced by FW resin, so that people at least have the option

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New foot knights are the star of this show for me.

I'm looking forward to a certain section of people lose their over there being women foot knights.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Overread wrote:
To be fair I can well see that GW originally planned for that. They are saying early 2024 and if you take out the pandemic and a few other messy things then they could quite easily have hit the 40th anniversary with the release

More like without whatever screwup triggered the recall of the LI books and the subsequent delay there. I mean people had their prerelease review copies in hand which means that preorders were due a month ago.

given that GW does not even delay the supplement for LI, pushing a bigger release back, meaning all the stuff ready for release sitting in the warehouse costing them money (space is expansive), taking up space that is needed for other future releases, is not really realistic

whatever was the reason for the LI dealy, it did not push TOW back 4+ months

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New foot knights are the star of this show for me.

I'm looking forward to a certain section of people lose their over there being women foot knights.

Maybe, maybe not. Bretonnia is strongly based on medieval France, and Jeanne d'Arc is a thing.

Actually a cool thing to provide that female head in plastic, since it allows for easy conversion of "Jean d'Arch" on whatever mount you want.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New foot knights are the star of this show for me.

I'm looking forward to a certain section of people lose their over there being women foot knights.

Seeing women knights are a thing...

"With the Peasant Bowmen box, you’ll be able to build a unit of 32 archers, complete with a command group and Defensive Stakes."

Oh, these are going to be BIG boxes. Expensive, but I guess you'll feel better getting at least one unit to a box now?

 infinite_array wrote:
"With the Peasant Bowmen box, you’ll be able to build a unit of 32 archers, complete with a command group and Defensive Stakes."

Oh, these are going to be BIG boxes. Expensive, but I guess you'll feel better getting at least one unit to a box now?

Going for the Horus Heresy price point by having lots of dudes per box.

The only old minis in the Bretonnian release I'm ok with picking up are going to be the peasant bowmen and men at arms. I'm sure I will regret it in 5 years when they both get resculpted, but thats future chaos0xomega's problem. The unfortunate reality for me in this moment though is that its looking a lot like I would have to build a Bretonnian army without horses (pegasi not withstanding), as I am absolutely not buying the old mounted knights kit.

 Darnok wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New foot knights are the star of this show for me.

I'm looking forward to a certain section of people lose their over there being women foot knights.

Maybe, maybe not. Bretonnia is strongly based on medieval France, and Jeanne d'Arc is a thing.

Actually a cool thing to provide that female head in plastic, since it allows for easy conversion of "Jean d'Arch" on whatever mount you want.

You mean https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Repanse_de_Lyonesse ?



Although she was unusual its never stated she was unique that I recall.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 infinite_array wrote:
"With the Peasant Bowmen box, you’ll be able to build a unit of 32 archers, complete with a command group and Defensive Stakes."

Oh, these are going to be BIG boxes. Expensive, but I guess you'll feel better getting at least one unit to a box now?

Going for the Horus Heresy price point by having lots of dudes per box.

not sure if 32 models with a single command for 60€ is something to be excited about

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Overread wrote:
To be fair I can well see that GW originally planned for that. They are saying early 2024 and if you take out the pandemic and a few other messy things then they could quite easily have hit the 40th anniversary with the release

More like without whatever screwup triggered the recall of the LI books and the subsequent delay there. I mean people had their prerelease review copies in hand which means that preorders were due a month ago.

There's a lot of things that clearly have been going on "behind the scenes". Note that the Dawnbringers Book III teaser had "Nova Open" badging for the reveal.

looking at the different pictures to figure out the options of the boxes I think it should be possible to get away with a single box of Foot Knights and 1 Pegapony heroe to build all the classic units and heroes in plastic

like questing Knights go with the 2 handed weapons from the Foot Knights, Grail Knight by taking the new helmets etc.

 kodos wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 infinite_array wrote:
"With the Peasant Bowmen box, you’ll be able to build a unit of 32 archers, complete with a command group and Defensive Stakes."

Oh, these are going to be BIG boxes. Expensive, but I guess you'll feel better getting at least one unit to a box now?

Going for the Horus Heresy price point by having lots of dudes per box.

not sure if 32 models with a single command for 60€ is something to be excited about

If the the bowmen and infantry kits are returning in 'huge boxes' of 32 models....

But the bowmen are being shown as units of 18 (not counting the stakes), but you get 32 in a box. I suspect this is going to cause a bit of outcry when people realise these new big boxes being advertised as being able to build full units, are likely to have too many or two few to actually play the units as they intend the game to play!

Classic GW!

Thankfully I fully support the use of unit fillers (Including 'blank' bases if needed), so I'll be able to get two units out of each of those sets!

If I was GW, I would be totally fine with throwing out very speculative release dates knowing that a portion of the fanbase will 1) buy it and 2) defend any sort of delay to the death when it happens.

 caladancid wrote:
If I was GW, I would be totally fine with throwing out very speculative release dates knowing that a portion of the fanbase will 1) buy it and 2) defend any sort of delay to the death when it happens.

I don't think anyone is defending, they are just looking for logical reasons why there's a delay. Ergo understanding why a delay might have or has happened for something.

Understanding can help temper expectations for the future. Eg if you know that product X was delayed because of a general shipping issue then you can expect more delays on other products. But if it was delayed because of a purely internal thing - eg a mixup on some components - then you know it might have a reduced knock on effect on other unrelated products etc....

"The official Warhammer: The Old World website will also be going live on Monday, so keep an eye out there for more information on the lore and landscapes of the Old World as we get closer to release."

From the War Com article.

 Overread wrote:

 caladancid wrote:
If I was GW, I would be totally fine with throwing out very speculative release dates knowing that a portion of the fanbase will 1) buy it and 2) defend any sort of delay to the death when it happens.

I don't think anyone is defending, they are just looking for logical reasons why there's a delay. Ergo understanding why a delay might have or has happened for something.

Understanding can help temper expectations for the future. Eg if you know that product X was delayed because of a general shipping issue then you can expect more delays on other products. But if it was delayed because of a purely internal thing - eg a mixup on some components - then you know it might have a reduced knock on effect on other unrelated products etc....

if there is a delay, we just assume GW won't be that stupid to skip the 40th anniversary, but that was already at Warhammer Fest and the chance already missed with that event

for now all we have is that it was always planned for 2024, and GW just never thought that the people associate Warhammer (the generic brand) with TOW, the same way people don't expect TOW when visiting a Warhammer store