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 kodos wrote:
Are we taking bets on queue time at Warhammer World on 20th?

I say 4-5 hours because they are not expecting more than 20 people

They would never greenlight project with such expectations...

Huh, TOW is coming way earlier then I thought.

And there is plenty of returning kits for TK and Brets.

Not a single word about the other factions. I wonder if that six month spread actually is a thing.

tneva82 wrote:

 kodos wrote:
Are we taking bets on queue time at Warhammer World on 20th?

I say 4-5 hours because they are not expecting more than 20 people

They would never greenlight project with such expectations...

they did only expect some100 people for the 40k release at Warhammer World were thousand showed up, I doubt they expect a lot coming for a "dead" game otherwise they would not have free entry

Nice to see metal Ushabti.

I'm going to fruitlessly hold out hope that they're doing plastic ones...

I am shocked by the reissue kits being run in metal. Seems like resin is reserved for new items so far, and we assume awkward things like the Trebuchet. It'd be killed if they sold the metal bits for things like Grail Knights as upgrade kits for the plastics you're getting in the starter box but they obviously aren't going to do that.

Why? They've been doing it with Middle-Earth for years.

Better metal than finecast, though their last metal models for Warhammer were not much better in quality (just less bendy)

They told us when they did the Bretonnian reveal that kits would be returning in both metal and resin, so not really news there.

Glad we’re getting metal instead of Finecast. Whilst there was a certain level of hysteria about the latter, there’s no disputing it wasn’t up to snuff.

Naturally I’d have preferred re-done kits in plastic, but for now I’ll take what I can get.

You can't sell 20 gobos for 45$ and 40 gobos for 55$ on the same website.

They sell 10 Grey Hunters and 15 Blood Claws for the same price. Note these are exactly the same sprues, you just get one more of them with the Blood Claws.

Also also also?

Now I may be thicker than a whale omelette on this one. But those Knights of the Realm? They’re in proper Lance formation. The one with the drawback that the more complete ranks you add, the fewer of models will get their attack in,

I'm very surprised to see so many metal kits returning, last time they sold many of those models they were done in finecast. They must have remade the molds for those models.

I now have to decide if I want to replace my Settra with a good metal version, as I really don't like resin.

That is a lot of stuff to release on day one. I'm not sure how I feel about the cards etc. It was kind of expected, GW love selling over priced cards for all their releases. Serious case of FOMO with their cards. I don't really want to end up chasing them down in the future, should TOW prove to be a worthwhile replacement for older editions.

Its a good release, if only to see so many wonderful metal models back again! I hope the metal trend continues with the other forces in the future!

 kodos wrote:
Better metal than finecast, though their last metal models for Warhammer were not much better in quality (just less bendy)

Looks like it’s specifically to get rid of Finecast as well. Settra and the melee ushabti were originally in metal, but the bow ushabti and 8th Ed ‘I need a wee’ Liche Priest were never in metal IIRC bit now are.

And definitely a good thing too IMO. Even if I do frustratingly have Settra and Khalida in Finecast from a MTO run a few years back (and would have much preferred metal).

The whole point of Finecast was that they could use the same old moulds that they used for metal. However Finecast as a material was never fit for purpose. Even near the end of its lifespan it was never a reliable material and everyone avoided it like the plague in general.


So I'm not shocked that as they are bringing those kits back, they are going back to metal.



Grab a good file (eg 900grit diamond ones from Eternal Tools) and go to town on those metal mould lines and they will look great.

 Overread wrote:
The whole point of Finecast was that they could use the same old moulds that they used for metal. However Finecast as a material was never fit for purpose. Even near the end of its lifespan it was never a reliable material and everyone avoided it like the plague in general.


So I'm not shocked that as they are bringing those kits back, they are going back to metal.



Grab a good file (eg 900grit diamond ones from Eternal Tools) and go to town on those metal mould lines and they will look great.

The finecast molds had to be altered though, they could use the metal ones but they had to make alterations to use finecast resin. This means they have had to remake the molds for metal now.

Huh, they even included metal version one of the rarer Ushabti Bow -versions that they included as later release but for some bizarre reason was never even mentioned being released and it was practically Online Only, that was always Out of Stock, and made from Finecast.

 Mallo wrote:

 Overread wrote:
The whole point of Finecast was that they could use the same old moulds that they used for metal. However Finecast as a material was never fit for purpose. Even near the end of its lifespan it was never a reliable material and everyone avoided it like the plague in general.


So I'm not shocked that as they are bringing those kits back, they are going back to metal.



Grab a good file (eg 900grit diamond ones from Eternal Tools) and go to town on those metal mould lines and they will look great.

The finecast molds had to be altered though, they could use the metal ones but they had to make alterations to use finecast resin. This means they have had to remake the molds for metal now.

Yeah though as I recall the finecast also tore the moulds up as well. So chances are remaking them was a requirement. So long as GW had the masters to work from they could re-create those moulds ^^

So what's the % of how much of this is going to be direct only? All the resin and metal obvioulsy.

Anyone else hoping the Bow Ushabti hit like mini-Bolt Throwers now? Not the full “keep going until you fail to wound”, but some rank penetration?

Pleasantly surprised at the size of this release.

Am I crazy or when they sold tomb guard before, was it in a box of 10? New box is 20 models looks like almost matching the larger box sizes in heresy unless of course I’m wrong.

Mon dieu! They brought back mounted yeomen! I always wanted to get those models back in the day.

 nathan2004 wrote:
Pleasantly surprised at the size of this release.

Am I crazy or when they sold tomb guard before, was it in a box of 10? New box is 20 models looks like almost matching the larger box sizes in heresy unless of course I’m wrong.

Yeah, it was 10 models at 25€-32.50€ (price was raised at some point) so if its 50€-60€ then not that bad.

 nathan2004 wrote:
Pleasantly surprised at the size of this release.

Am I crazy or when they sold tomb guard before, was it in a box of 10? New box is 20 models looks like almost matching the larger box sizes in heresy unless of course I’m wrong.

Yea. That's how gw lowers cost of models. Increase # of models, increase price but less.

They did that with stormcast, they did with hh. Bretonnia infantry will be boxes of 32.

Ok... so...preorders are the 6th.

The article doesn't seem to specify when any of it actually, you know, releases. Is it the 13th, the 20th? The 27th?


I'm amused at how impractical the supplementary materials are.
2 56 card sets (army sets at 36), sleeves sold at 50 count.

Base sizes all over the place with infantry at 25 or 30, movement trays are 200mm sheets, and pre-lined for 10x10 sections of... 20mm.

Has there been any word on the prices for all of this stuff yet? Grail Knight kits, Mounted Yeomen kits, Battle Pilgrim kits, etc?

 Chief Librarian Mephiston wrote:
Has there been any word on the prices for all of this stuff yet? Grail Knight kits, Mounted Yeomen kits, Battle Pilgrim kits, etc?

No. For retail items we know tomorrow. Mo items on saturday.

So they still keep the bret footknights and the unicorn lady for later release. Guess they dont want to loose the bretonnia players attention.

Voss wrote:
Ok... so...preorders are the 6th.

The article doesn't seem to specify when any of it actually, you know, releases. Is it the 13th, the 20th? The 27th?


I'm amused at how impractical the supplementary materials are.
2 56 card sets (army sets at 36), sleeves sold at 50 count.

Base sizes all over the place with infantry at 25 or 30, movement trays are 200mm sheets, and pre-lined for 10x10 sections of... 20mm.

'On Saturday the 20th of January – the day Warhammer: The Old World hits store shelves'

Those sheets are scored by 25 on the other side.

Confirmation on fb from warcom team that the box sets are not limited