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Voss wrote:
Ok... so...preorders are the 6th.

The article doesn't seem to specify when any of it actually, you know, releases. Is it the 13th, the 20th? The 27th?


I'm amused at how impractical the supplementary materials are.
2 56 card sets (army sets at 36), sleeves sold at 50 count.

Base sizes all over the place with infantry at 25 or 30, movement trays are 200mm sheets, and pre-lined for 10x10 sections of... 20mm.

Those sheets are actually 25mm on one side.

Granted, its still a bit of a poor rerelease when a new kit should have been made to match the new bases, but as someone that really likes the convenience of that kit and is unlikely to adopt TOW as the default edition, I'm very, very pleased to see it back. Only thing that would have been greater would have been to see the neon green beauty back again!



But otherwise GW can put me down for a bulk order!

Also there's an obvious 2nd wave coming for these factions, no foot knights on preorder, nor the box set oldhammer models

 Robert Facepalmer wrote:

Voss wrote:
Ok... so...preorders are the 6th.

The article doesn't seem to specify when any of it actually, you know, releases. Is it the 13th, the 20th? The 27th?


I'm amused at how impractical the supplementary materials are.
2 56 card sets (army sets at 36), sleeves sold at 50 count.

Base sizes all over the place with infantry at 25 or 30, movement trays are 200mm sheets, and pre-lined for 10x10 sections of... 20mm.

'On Saturday the 20th of January – the day Warhammer: The Old World hits store shelves'

Those sheets are scored by 25 on the other side.

What are you 'quoting'? That isn't in the preorder article (or anything else on warcom). Neither are the trays being scored for 25mm. (and doesn't help anything operating off of base 30 in any case).

THEY MADE THE FINECAST MODELS METAL???? LETS GOOOO

Voss wrote:

 Robert Facepalmer wrote:

Voss wrote:
Ok... so...preorders are the 6th.

The article doesn't seem to specify when any of it actually, you know, releases. Is it the 13th, the 20th? The 27th?


I'm amused at how impractical the supplementary materials are.
2 56 card sets (army sets at 36), sleeves sold at 50 count.

Base sizes all over the place with infantry at 25 or 30, movement trays are 200mm sheets, and pre-lined for 10x10 sections of... 20mm.

'On Saturday the 20th of January – the day Warhammer: The Old World hits store shelves'

Those sheets are scored by 25 on the other side.

What are you 'quoting'? That isn't in the preorder article (or anything else on warcom). Neither are the trays being scored for 25mm. (and doesn't help anything operating off of base 30 in any case).

I shared a FB post by WHW earlier, as they’re advertising a WHFB launch weekend event on 20 January.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Also there's an obvious 2nd wave coming for these factions, no foot knights on preorder, nor the box set oldhammer models

Would it be fair to presume that these, metal, releases will mean all 9 questing knights will be released later in the year? Looking at how they organized the grail knights into 2x3, with 1 command.

Voss wrote:
What are you 'quoting'? That isn't in the preorder article (or anything else on warcom).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/31/sunday-preview-prepare-to-enter-the-world-of-legend/

Scroll down to the section for the Warhammer: The Old World Celebration Day.

How the new bases will look. And scale creep because I like whining about that.

Left to right, some Perry historical minis that fit right in with Oldhammer stuff. Next some plastic horses of the type that will be included with the new mounted yoemen. Note that these look to still be on 25X50 bases in the photos. Next some chaos marauder cav that may stay on the old size or go up, as they seem to be almost fitting. And finally the massive chaos knight horses. These guys could not stand next to each other or in front of each other on the 25X50 bases.

My shop has bases in 30X60 and 30 square, and I will be making 40X60 and 60X100 in the near future. www.proxiemodels.com

The fact that this is not a limited release is amazing. It means I can get my FLFS discount on the box with no stress.

Voss wrote:

 Robert Facepalmer wrote:

Voss wrote:
Ok... so...preorders are the 6th.

The article doesn't seem to specify when any of it actually, you know, releases. Is it the 13th, the 20th? The 27th?


I'm amused at how impractical the supplementary materials are.
2 56 card sets (army sets at 36), sleeves sold at 50 count.

Base sizes all over the place with infantry at 25 or 30, movement trays are 200mm sheets, and pre-lined for 10x10 sections of... 20mm.

'On Saturday the 20th of January – the day Warhammer: The Old World hits store shelves'

Those sheets are scored by 25 on the other side.

What are you 'quoting'? That isn't in the preorder article (or anything else on warcom). Neither are the trays being scored for 25mm. (and doesn't help anything operating off of base 30 in any case).

He quotes the preorder article.

Oh and those movement trays are just old ones brought to production. They were 20mm one side, 25mm other side. They didn't do new moulds(

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 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
The fact that this is not a limited release is amazing. It means I can get my FLFS discount on the box with no stress.

Mind you if you don't get it at launch could be a while before restock.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not a single word about the other factions. I wonder if that six month spread actually is a thing.

People have taken much abuse for saying 2025, but this soft release is super soft. Not that I am complaining, just give me rulebook, a living game and some of those rank and file metal grail knight please. 🥰🤣

We aint gonna see a broad release per facto for the 9 factions until next xmas possibly. But I'd rather they just release whay they have. Rulebook looks super promising at least. And its not an AoS aestethics model game either.

Did you miss the dragon abomination?

Voss wrote:


Neither are the trays being scored for 25mm. (and doesn't help anything operating off of base 30 in any case).

If you ever owned any, they are scored for 25mm on the reverse, here's the old product listing off amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Games-Workshop-Modular-Movement-Warhammer/dp/B000Y47LPE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

This set contains all of the parts necessary to make up to eight plastic movement trays, including: two 200mm square floor sections, 16 corner pieces and 24 straights. One side of each floor section is marked out in 20mm squares (making it easy to cut and measure movement trays for models on 20mm square or 40mm square bases) the other side is marked out in 25mm squares (useful for making movement trays for models on 25mm square, 50mm square or 25mm x 50mm bases)

The movement tray can work for cavalry units, depending on how you rank them up.

For instance, say you’re making a 10-man unit of Reiksguard in two ranks of 5. That’s 150mm wide, 120mm deep.

Go to the side that’s 25mm and cut it at 6 squares for width. Then flip it back over to the 20mm side and cut it again at 6 squares.

25 is still off for 30mm and multiples of it

Got to say I do like the modular movement trays as a material.

In practical terms, they can be a bit wasteful as sooner or later you’re gonna end up with odds and ends and off cuts. So I’ll advocate careful planning to maximise.

But, on the wasteful side? Single rank strips can be comfortably used as the basis for walls. They’re rigid, not too high, and with just a layer of green stuff either side and one of those natty green stuff rollers? Drystone or brick walls for your scenery delectation.


One can of course make their own movement trays. Only dicky thing is getting a suitable base material that won’t warp.

A stunning launch line up, and while not a game I'm interested in I might see if I can get a set of the "pearlescent blue swirl and gold ink" dice, as I rather fancy them.

Its also good to see The Old World released this early so that it gives breathing room for the release of AoS 4th edition in the summer. To those who waited so long, its great that your patience has finally been rewarded.

Hopefully this will be the beginning of a return to classic Old World games such as Warhammer Quest, Mordheim, Man-O-War and Warmaster. Anyway, wake me up when the Bretonnian Knights get released...

 triplegrim wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not a single word about the other factions. I wonder if that six month spread actually is a thing.

People have taken much abuse for saying 2025, but this soft release is super soft. Not that I am complaining, just give me rulebook, a living game and some of those rank and file metal grail knight please. 🥰🤣

We aint gonna see a broad release per facto for the 9 factions until next xmas possibly. But I'd rather they just release whay they have. Rulebook looks super promising at least. And its not an AoS aestethics model game either.

If we're using Horus Heresy as a guide, this shouldn't bee TOO surprising. While only two factions may be getting models right off, EVERY faction will have full rules day one. Yes, new players may be starved of options, but at least veteran players (like my three armies) can dive right in.

And gw never releases every army at once. They want you to buy multiple things. And gw isn't stupid enough to think people generally can afford to buy multiple armies at same time.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 triplegrim wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Not a single word about the other factions. I wonder if that six month spread actually is a thing.

People have taken much abuse for saying 2025, but this soft release is super soft. Not that I am complaining, just give me rulebook, a living game and some of those rank and file metal grail knight please. 🥰🤣

We aint gonna see a broad release per facto for the 9 factions until next xmas possibly. But I'd rather they just release whay they have. Rulebook looks super promising at least. And its not an AoS aestethics model game either.

If we're using Horus Heresy as a guide, this shouldn't bee TOO surprising. While only two factions may be getting models right off, EVERY faction will have full rules day one. Yes, new players may be starved of options, but at least veteran players (like my three armies) can dive right in.

And it’s those existing armies which are the odd quantity.

Somewhere, I’ve still got my Ogres, on their square bases. Certainly enough to field an army right off the bat. Which, whether I get fancy or legacy rules? Means I’m good to go game wise with relatively minimal investment. And a game seen to be played has an easier job finding new players.

 nathan2004 wrote:
Pleasantly surprised at the size of this release.

Am I crazy or when they sold tomb guard before, was it in a box of 10? New box is 20 models looks like almost matching the larger box sizes in heresy unless of course I’m wrong.

You are correct. TG were originally sold in 10s.

 McDougall Designs wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
Pleasantly surprised at the size of this release.

Am I crazy or when they sold tomb guard before, was it in a box of 10? New box is 20 models looks like almost matching the larger box sizes in heresy unless of course I’m wrong.

You are correct. TG were originally sold in 10s.

That's why the photo in the article shows a repeated pair of blocks of 10 models rather than one shot of 20 together.

I'm curious to see what the Nehekaran Royal Host army list looks like, if it's possible to build an army using all of the more recent plastics I may hop in on it. Mainly looking for an excuse to buy tomb guard and necro/was sphinxes. The snake knights too.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Got to say I do like the modular movement trays as a material.

In practical terms, they can be a bit wasteful as sooner or later you’re gonna end up with odds and ends and off cuts. So I’ll advocate careful planning to maximise.

But, on the wasteful side? Single rank strips can be comfortably used as the basis for walls. They’re rigid, not too high, and with just a layer of green stuff either side and one of those natty green stuff rollers? Drystone or brick walls for your scenery delectation.


One can of course make their own movement trays. Only dicky thing is getting a suitable base material that won’t warp.

I hated those things. You had to saw the damn things or spend half an hour constantly scoring them to snap.

 Overread wrote:
The whole point of Finecast was that they could use the same old moulds that they used for metal.

"Fine"cast used the same machines as metal, not the same moulds. Everything was remoulded with parts consolidated (metal models generally had separate pieces in different moulds, or separate cavities in the same mould), sprues and extra injection points added, and the moulds were silicon instead of vulcanised rubber.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I hated those things. You had to ... spend half an hour constantly scoring them to snap.

Good practice for Dalgona?

Yeah, typically you need a band saw to score movement trays, in my experience.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I'm curious to see what the Nehekaran Royal Host army list looks like, if it's possible to build an army using all of the more recent plastics I may hop in on it. Mainly looking for an excuse to buy tomb guard and necro/was sphinxes. The snake knights too.

In 6th edition, if you wanted to take Setra you needed to take 50 percent of your army from tomb guard, chariots or skeletal horsemen with spears. You also could not take any liche priests but I believe every unit could cast 1 prayer. This was obviously before the snake knights existed. I'm going off memory, so I might have missed some details. My guess is Setra will be locked into that army comp, but the list wl probably change slightly.

Thanks Egyptian…now I’m debating if I’m forgoing my future wood elf army to get a mostly plastic (okay with metal too) tomb kings army. If the core is guard, knights, and big guys I’m in.

Man I'm glad I limited my hobby purchases over the last 2 months as I new this was going to be expensive. Luckily I'm only here for the books and I guess the cards since they are advertised and always worth getting.