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In terms of transport, any standard infantry size (anything that a 25mm base has to squeeze into) foam slot case should be fine. You can put two infantry bases side by side in each slot and friction with the sides should keep them from falling out or sliding around. I’ve done this with the classic GW red foam cases for 25mm bases with other small things like critters or the genecult demo girl’s bomb token.


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Kretualdo wrote:
There already seems to be an inconsistency between rulebook, cards, and digital rulebook (photo from one of the facebook groups):



Legion aerial assault in physical rulebook has mandatory slots: HQ, support, 2x core, whereas in cards and digital it is: HQ, support, core, vanguard.

The error is in the Cards. Check the errata here.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

The error is in the Cards. Check the errata here.

Interesting errata, in short:

Engine Killer also works against vehicles now, not just super heavy vehicles so no baneblade dies but malcador lives.
The warp trait only gives you one dice against Knights and Titans now instead of as many as they have wounds left, very nice they responded this fast on that.
Storm Eagles no longer have the Tempest rockets they stole from the Fire raptors

The correct Aerial Force compulsory slots are from the physical book so two core slots in compulsory, the digital and cards had one core and one vanguard instead which is wrong according to the card errate. But it doesn't specify about the optional detachments which are one core and one vanguard in the physical book and two core in the digital. No idea how its on the cards but since the physical was correct for the compulsory ones its likely to be one core and one vanguard for the optional ones too.

Page 85 – Warp
Change the second sentence of the first paragraph to
the following:
‘If targeting a Knight or Titan, then the Dice value of the
weapon is 1.

Warp missile fixed.

Clearly I missed something; what was wrong with the warp missile?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Clearly I missed something; what was wrong with the warp missile?

Almost guaranteed titan kill - roll dice equal to the targets wounds, with +3 dice from Engine Killer, wounding on 2+ (IIRC).

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Clearly I missed something; what was wrong with the warp missile?

Before this it would roll dice equal to the remaining wounds of a knight or titan. Typically that's 3-7 shots, hitting on 2+ and ignoring all possible shields or saves.

Each of those hits would then trigger Engine Killer for +3 wounds, meaning it was virtually guaranteed to one-shot any large target including Warmasters.

TBF, that does kind of sound like a warp missile hitting a reactor but yes, that does seem a bit much.

I think the thing is yes its fun to think of it hitting the reactor and taking out the whole titan, but when it becomes a super reliable auto-kill it means everyone would be taking them and suddenly titans become un-fun to play with because of how easily they are taken off the field.

Yeah, I mean, oneshotting 750 points from the table sounds Epic, but kind of makes Titans unworthy of fielding in more competitive circles

Oh no, I get it. I mean the thing about hitting a reactor with a warp missile was that it used to be quite hard; you had to select the right part of the silhouette, hope you didn’t scatter too much, and so on. Automatically wiping out whatever it’s pointed at is way off the mark.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
TBF, that does kind of sound like a warp missile hitting a reactor but yes, that does seem a bit much.

3.5 times dead per titan.

Vs warhound, 3 dice rolling 2+ one needed to kill.

Warlora? 6 dice 2+ 2 needed to kill.

Might been most busted thing ever

tneva82 wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Classic GW, they postpone the launch to redo the rulebook and even then it ships already outdated

They fixed the issue that caused the delay.

But if they had wanted to spend further work that would delay it further.

It's not like GW can send order for reprint, continue work on proof reading and then have those insterted to already ordered and in print process books...

Maybe GW should just proof read it properly the first time?

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Maybe GW should just proof read it properly the first time?

That's crazy

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Classic GW, they postpone the launch to redo the rulebook and even then it ships already outdated

They fixed the issue that caused the delay.

But if they had wanted to spend further work that would delay it further.

It's not like GW can send order for reprint, continue work on proof reading and then have those insterted to already ordered and in print process books...

Maybe GW should just proof read it properly the first time?

Sure. And never release book

Haven't seen book without error yet.

tneva82 wrote:
Sure. And never release book

Haven't seen book without error yet.

I mean, sure.

But even so, GW QC is abysmal, and they could certainly improve, if they just gave a gak.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So long as you slide them off by the base, and don’t use a high…strength(?) magnet should be OK? Like, fridge magnet strength.

With the infantry bases only being 2mm thick, you're limited in how much of a magnet you can use anyway - like maybe 1mm x 4 mm - which shouldn't be too grippy.

It's pretty obvious why they're different, at the time of the rulebook's release there are no Vanguard options for Astartes so the formation would be unusable. The formations on the cards presumably match the first expansion.

Pure incompetence is required at some point, no matter where in the production process you stick it in.

 Manchu wrote:
Did anyone’s who pre-order included cards get their orders yet?

I've got a pre-order for the cards and tiles still sat "processing" at GW (UK). Which is a little worrying. Ordered pretty soon after they went live, once I'd made it through the queue.

My order for the main set and other kits arrived from Element Games on Sunday (which was suprise as don't normally get Sunday deliveries, maybe it's a Christmas thing).

Billicus wrote:
It's pretty obvious why they're different, at the time of the rulebook's release there are no Vanguard options for Astartes so the formation would be unusable. The formations on the cards presumably match the first expansion.

Except that in recent errata for LI they stated that there is an error in cards, and it should in fact be the same as physical rulebook, so it is not obvious as you suggest.

Kretualdo wrote:

Billicus wrote:
It's pretty obvious why they're different, at the time of the rulebook's release there are no Vanguard options for Astartes so the formation would be unusable. The formations on the cards presumably match the first expansion.

Except that in recent errata for LI they stated that there is an error in cards, and it should in fact be the same as physical rulebook, so it is not obvious as you suggest.

If the formatin gets Erratad again when we get Vanguard detachments, we will know

My US order, which includes cards and a boxed set, has now shipped, so should have it next week.

think personally it would have been better to take the lists out of the hard backed book, except for some as "examples", and had a booklet like the assembly guide of lists in the box and shrink wrapped with the book as simple getting started lists

then actually publish proper books when probably the second wave comes out

There are a few independent vendors that still have the starter set for sale if anyone is still after one. Enjoyment have them for just over £100 I think.

Trying to get a box of the Astartes infantry and they are sold out almost everywhere. But, most of those vendors seem to have loads of the Solar infantry left, which will tell you something of what the match-ups are likely to be going forward!

actually think SA could have an advantage once they start getting their artillery stuff. experimenting with colours on a few printed tanks (they are the right length, too narrow though, good for painting tests)

do think locally there will be a lot of hot marine on marine action, a few offering to trade their SA plastic for more marines

 Pacific wrote:
There are a few independent vendors that still have the starter set for sale if anyone is still after one. Enjoyment have them for just over £100 I think.

Trying to get a box of the Astartes infantry and they are sold out almost everywhere. But, most of those vendors seem to have loads of the Solar infantry left, which will tell you something of what the match-ups are likely to be going forward!

I suspect that this is a combination of Solar players being more drawn towards armoured company formations (with those mostly not being available separately) plus the fact that Solar are waiting on the Dracosan for a decent transport option.

Meanwhile it's much easier to build a balanced marine force with rhinos, storm eagles, and thunderhawks alongside various tanks.

The SA infantry are out of stock on the UK GW site at least, so some people are getting them at least

Something I've spotted while reading the rulebook is the repeated use of product box art. These images have a very specific style; landscape pictures in a similar colour palette showing two or more of a specific unit, with any other unit types obscured or otherwise out of focus. Several already available or confirmed box images are used, including Titans, Kratos, Rhinos, etc.

In addition to these there are several images in this style for units that have not been announced as plastic kits. One shows two warhounds armed only with the new weapon options. Presumbly this means they're getting their own box using this art, and the old warhound kit & weapons will be separate (and probably direct-only). Another shows Arvus lighters.

More interestingly we also have these guys:

SA russes have already been rumoured, but I'd love a plastic Termite! Would also make sense as several armies in 30K can field them

 xttz wrote:
Something I've spotted while reading the rulebook is the repeated use of product box art. These images have a very specific style; landscape pictures in a similar colour palette showing two or more of a specific unit, with any other unit types obscured or otherwise out of focus. Several already available or confirmed box images are used, including Titans, Kratos, Rhinos, etc.

In addition to these there are several images in this style for units that have not been announced as plastic kits. One shows two warhounds armed only with the new weapon options. Presumbly this means they're getting their own box using this art, and the old warhound kit & weapons will be separate (and probably direct-only). Another shows Arvus lighters.

More interestingly we also have these guys:

Spoiler:

That's some good detective work there!