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 Scottywan82 wrote:
Happy Liar's Day to those who celebrate.


Darn it, you raised my hopes for a clever April Fools instead I just got a preview of Medieval Foot Knights, with mounted knights, sergeants and levy to come!

https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/foot-knights-1150-1320



For someone more in the know, I can see what Levy would look like (the Peasants are Revolting!) but what are sergeants? Just kind of in the middle, semi armored?

 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Scottywan82 wrote:
Happy Liar's Day to those who celebrate.


Darn it, you raised my hopes for a clever April Fools instead I just got a preview of Medieval Foot Knights, with mounted knights, sergeants and levy to come!

https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/foot-knights-1150-1320



For someone more in the know, I can see what Levy would look like (the Peasants are Revolting!) but what are sergeants? Just kind of in the middle, semi armored?


I did not work on these sets. I want to make that clear.

And answer to your question, a medieval sergeant was a class of footsoldier. You can think of them like professionally trained peasant class men. Usually they would wear medium to heavy armor, and could be further specialized into infantry or cavalry roles.

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Very nice looking set, have placed my order. The Barons War is an interesting period to game and I’m looking forward to the other sets to come.

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Was expecting some April Fool's, was expecting it even more after the "Medieval" movie references, but damn, what a pleasant surprise on many levels! Looks like a nice kit and a great range once out; always enjoy the aesthetics and might finally start an Albigensian Crusade inspired project with these (had been awaiting the announced Victrix ones before, wouldn't mind if the two ranges were interchangeable for kitbashing...)
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 Scottywan82 wrote:
Happy Liar's Day to those who celebrate.


Darn it, you raised my hopes for a clever April Fools instead I just got a preview of Medieval Foot Knights, with mounted knights, sergeants and levy to come!

https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/foot-knights-1150-1320



For someone more in the know, I can see what Levy would look like (the Peasants are Revolting!) but what are sergeants? Just kind of in the middle, semi armored?
Would expect them to mainly have spears, mostly helmets (or chain coifs) but no greathelms such as the knights here, and a decent amount of armour - some chain, some padded gambesons. Guess they could have crossbows too, while I imagine the levy will be unarmoured (maybe interchangeable with sergeants for poorly armoured spearmen) and to have some bows, rounding the range out nicely.
   
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Oh man, do I need these models!

Damn my hobby budget for being depleted already


 
   
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Looks like Bretonnia’s back on the menu!


These will go great with my Wargames Atlantic Empire dudes.

   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

For someone more in the know, I can see what Levy would look like (the Peasants are Revolting!) but what are sergeants? Just kind of in the middle, semi armored?
English military of that time a Serjeant was a professional warrior that was not a nobel, while a Levy was a conscripted warrior

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Re: Sergeant-at-Arms. Early medieval sergeants were essentially servants who could fight. What equipment they used was what their noble masters provided them. Later they became a mid-tier professional military: common-born, non-noble professional soldiers who were in service to the nobles and who filled a number of functions of the modern sergeant. Again, equipment was what they could afford (if a mercenary) or what their lord provided. As previously noted, they did not typically use great helms or other pieces of equipment associated with mounted knights. They might also use bows or crossbows unlike knights. [Use of missile weapons had a social stigma of cowardice or being ignoble among nobility in some times and places so knights usually did not use them in combat.]

As for modeling, use whatever armor you like, but not as complete or flash was what you are planning to model your knights in. Kettle hats are usually what most people think of men-at-arms and Sergeant-at-Arms as wearing. A cloth gambeson or cuir boulli might be worn instead of a chain hauberk, especially for those in service to poorer lords.

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 McDougall Designs wrote:


I did not work on these sets. I want to make that clear.

.

But you can confirm this is a legit kit and not a very elaborate April Fools joke? If so I really hope WGA can beat Victrix to the punch on Saracen models.

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 legionaires wrote:
 McDougall Designs wrote:


I did not work on these sets. I want to make that clear.

.

But you can confirm this is a legit kit and not a very elaborate April Fools joke? If so I really hope WGA can beat Victrix to the punch on Saracen models.


My first thought when I saw these was that they were a very elaborate April Fools joke. If that's the case I'm going to be very, very sad.

 
   
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Man, and me on a knight kick. now I just gotta figure out where I can get overly fancy head mascots and it'd be an actually affordable bretonian foot knight kit...
   
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 Sabotage! wrote:
 legionaires wrote:
 McDougall Designs wrote:


I did not work on these sets. I want to make that clear.

But you can confirm this is a legit kit and not a very elaborate April Fools joke? If so I really hope WGA can beat Victrix to the punch on Saracen models.


My first thought when I saw these was that they were a very elaborate April Fools joke. If that's the case I'm going to be very, very sad.
Follow the link Kid Kyoto provided above and you'll see it is a pre-order at the WGA webstore.

As for helms with elaborate crests, try 3rd party vendors. The ones I use do not currently have any, but with the release of The Old World, I imagine there will soon be 3rd party bits being sculpted and 3d printed.

EDIT: Fireforge has embossed plastic shields both historical and fantasy. Shields

Puppetswar.eu has a few heads, but other than the vampire and chaos knight heads, there are no fancy crests. Just make sure they are fantasy, and not the 40k helms. {Even though I searched Fantasy, some of the helmets have space marine neck joins.} https://puppetswar.eu/resin-models-and-bits/fantasy/bits.html?p=1

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Vejut wrote:
Man, and me on a knight kick. now I just gotta figure out where I can get overly fancy head mascots and it'd be an actually affordable bretonian foot knight kit...


Reaper sell little animal familiars that could work. There are also lots of space marine bling bits available through bits sites, such as banner toppers, space wolf emblems, Dark Angels icons, Blood Angel winged chalices, etc.. Mantic also include little animals in some of their kits, such as frogs and imps and otters. If you know any historical gamers, ask if they have any spare standard toppers.

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Vejut wrote:
Man, and me on a knight kick. now I just gotta figure out where I can get overly fancy head mascots and it'd be an actually affordable bretonian foot knight kit...


Fireforge also have both historical and fantasy knight kits.

https://fireforge-games.com/western-armies/334-foot-knights-xi-xiii-century.html

https://fireforge-games.com/military-orders/9-teutonic-knights.html

https://fireforge-games.com/military-orders/11-templar-knights.html

https://fireforge-games.com/military-orders/8-teutonic-infantry.html

https://fireforge-games.com/albion/252-albion-s-knights.html

Their Teutonic knights have some crested helmets while the Albion fantasy knights are a bit more over the top.

 
   
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@WGA - do you have some pics of painted minis on your new textured bases? If yes, please show us some
   
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Nope sorry someone will have to paint something and post it. We're too busy making more plastic.
   
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You mean werewolves without puddle abominations? Yes, it is a good excuse, keep going
   
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So with Victrix also pivoting into Medieval at the same time, looks like that's the next big thing in casual historicals.

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I was thinking the same thing Lord_Blackfang.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
So with Victrix also pivoting into Medieval at the same time, looks like that's the next big thing in casual historicals.


I just wish had happened a few years ago but I will take what I can get, lol!

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 Shadow Walker wrote:
Voted for matchlock, for the sake of something different than usual.


I just got some fireforge dwarven Ram riders from Ebay. I Had backed in the kickstarter but ended up getting some of their existing models in the pledge manager instead of dwarves. Anyway, the Ram riders have matchlock pistols. Size-wise they are comparable to Warlords ECW flintlock pistols. But may still be a little large on a WA Conquistador.


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 legionaires wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
So with Victrix also pivoting into Medieval at the same time, looks like that's the next big thing in casual historicals.


I just wish had happened a few years ago but I will take what I can get, lol!


Didn't Victrix accuse WA of copying one of Victrix's sets on a digital set a year or two back? I wonder how Victrix feels about this now.

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 Smokestack wrote:
Didn't Victrix accuse WA of copying one of Victrix's sets on a digital set a year or two back? I wonder how Victrix feels about this now.
Yes, they even said they were consulting legal counsel. However, I'm sure when Victrix "copies" other companies, it's not really copying. When someone does it to Victrix, it's plagarism, when Victrix does it, it is original work. Between Victrix sculpting on the small side of historicals and their plagarism BS, I've stopped buying from them. [Although I admit it won't hurt them that much. Hardly buy historical these days anyway. And I'd only want a sprue of the WGA foot knights, so I'm not helping WGA too much outside of Death Fields.]

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I have a sprue of their Dacians, which is a nice set, but that is all I have from Victrix... I think. While I have a ton of WA. Not that I dislike Victrix's minis, its just hard to find stuff here in the US without hefty shipping... Though the Dacians did have a very nice sale but I didnt really need 50 (or however came in that box).
   
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To be fair, I think Victrix announced their medieval sets around July last year whereas Andy and Paul said they have been working with WA on these for about a year.

Steve
   
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I would laugh my but off if Victrix accused WGA of plagiarizing them by making a generic medieval foot knights kit. Surely that is a proprietary concept if I have ever heard of one......

"Well you see this miniature had chainmail and a sword, and yours also had chainmail and a sword..."

 
   
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We'd like your input on the Terrae Motus vehicle and what to do with the design.
The last big hurdle to overcome for the project is the Terrae Motus vehicle.

This one JUST squeaked by in the last seconds of the campaign by $3,000. We ran a report and only 30 of the 1420 backers have added it to their pledge. So it seems like only 2% of you are interested in it.

We have to admit we are not in absolute love with the design and have been playing with ideas for it, but before we get too far we wanted to let you tell us what you wanted us to do.

We see three options:
1. Refine it but basically keep it as is
2. Change the design completely - perhaps to a tank or walker - we'd run a separate poll with concepts to decide this
3. Replace this with a new set of Damned power armor troops

Rob Macfarlane has worked up a concept for the power armor troops:


The power armor guys would have different head options so that you could make them all the same or mix it up within a unit. Shoulder pads would be "Damnified" and with plain versions as well. Concepts aren't final of course but this is what we were thinking would fit with the rest of the range.

We thought the best way to decide this was to have you vote - this vote is only open to the backers so it can't be influenced by outsiders. If #2 or #3 end up being chosen, we'd make the existing Terrae Motus design available as a free stl file set for those who want it.

Please let us know your wishes below! Also regarding schedule there is a lot in tooling now and we're just working out what the final timelines look like for everything. As we've said doing 11 all at once is a daunting task that's a little different than the 50 or so sets we've done all in singles or pairs in the past but we are getting there! We can't wait to unleash 11 full plastic sets on the world in one shot - just crazy! Thanks for helping us make this a reality!




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I am actually ok with any of those choices. I have 5 that I pledged for. I would Prefer another vehicle... a Tank or a walker would be awesome. Power armor would be my last choice but still would not be upset about it.
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Power armour is the obvious first choice here, walker/tank would be second.
   
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2 or 3 is fine by me

We don't need power armour like that for 40k/30k proxies, but it has serious post-apoc potential so I wouldn't mind it at all.

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I seem to be in the minority that like the existing truck design.
   
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Werkrobotwerk wrote:
I seem to be in the minority that like the existing truck design.


I like it too. have 5 in my pledge... But all of the choices seem good. So I am not upset either way. Though if power armor wins,., I dont need 5 boxes...
   
 
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