Probably a dumb question, but does the mansion have a detailed interior for playing within the structure?

 CptJake wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but does the mansion have a detailed interior for playing within the structure?

The walls are detailed on both sides.

Disappointing that there's no discount retail option on this. Would love a box or two, but not at that price.

It is 1/3rd off already, no? That's basically 20% off on the usual 20%.

Obviously I'd not have said no to yet another 20% off on top of that but it's a pretty decent deal.

20% off is chump change though, those are rookie numbers.

By my calculations, for UK prices:

Full RRP = £280
20% discount on RRP = £224
Box price = £185

So the box is a £39 (17.4%) discount on simply buying everything at the usual discount.

A good deal if you want absolutely everything in the set, not a good deal if you don't (as any single unneeded item wipes out most or all of the saving).

This also assumes you're getting the ruins sets at retail. Each £100 starter box contains £48 worth of terrain, which is frequently sold for less on eBay.

I picked up one set, I'd hoped that it would have been available at my local with the extra 10-20% off then I would have instantly brought 2 (or possibly even three).

I really don't need the ruins, as ruins are easy to make and will appear in almost every starter set/bundle deal/2nd hand bundle anyway.

I've been able to pick a couple of random Gondor buildings up over the last year but they've been very difficult to get hold off, so nabbing a single big set means between that and the handful of sets I have already means I will have enough to at least build a decent sized Arnor ruins table. When it comes to building an actual Osgiliath/Minas Tirith table I'll go for something more affordable to go bigger (much, much bigger than these kits can manage)

Shame, as I have enough Dol Guldor kits to build a full size display piece/table as my FLGS had them on massive discount, and the old bundle deals for lake town houses was always good so I'll have to lake town one day too. The Rohan sets were much better value for getting a good table set up, even if the Gondor sets are just as nice.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but does the mansion have a detailed interior for playing within the structure?

The walls are detailed on both sides.

Do roofs come off for easy in game access? Can you access bottom and top floors?

Thanks.

 CptJake wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but does the mansion have a detailed interior for playing within the structure?

The walls are detailed on both sides.

Do roofs come off for easy in game access? Can you access bottom and top floors?

Thanks.

Here

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/31/how-to-make-the-most-of-the-gondor-terrain-for-the-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game/

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 CptJake wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but does the mansion have a detailed interior for playing within the structure?

The walls are detailed on both sides.

Do roofs come off for easy in game access? Can you access bottom and top floors?

Thanks.

Here

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/31/how-to-make-the-most-of-the-gondor-terrain-for-the-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game/

That helps a little. I guess by not gluing on roofs/upper stories you can access an interior in game. Thanks.

CptJake wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 CptJake wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but does the mansion have a detailed interior for playing within the structure?

The walls are detailed on both sides.

Do roofs come off for easy in game access? Can you access bottom and top floors?

Thanks.

Here

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/31/how-to-make-the-most-of-the-gondor-terrain-for-the-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game/

That helps a little. I guess by not gluing on roofs/upper stories you can access an interior in game. Thanks.

Here's a video showing just that - I think it works surprisingly well!




They also show how to assemble the tower so you can have both intact and destroyed versions, without needing to magnetise or anything fancy.

Made to order https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/12/sunday-preview-made-to-order-in-middle-earth/

I always miss the opportunities when they Release Gamling Mounted and on Foot with Standard. I really should just bite the bullet and get these things separately so I can stop worrying about it lol.

Finally the defenders of rohan. What a pig of a set that's been to hunt down.

Ah about bloody time. I was starting to fear this would happen after June and the price rise.
One captain, one Eomer and one goddamn defenders of Rohan thank you kindly.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Finally the defenders of rohan. What a pig of a set that's been to hunt down.

I gave up trying. On the few occasions I came across complete sets they were always ludicrously expensive. GW doing a MTO was the only real chance I had of gettng it.

Of course they do this when I really can't afford to splurge on minis. Absolutely awful timing for me.

New character for Arnor:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/16/middle-earth-strategy-battle-game-a-new-captain-of-arnor/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0cIroR_6upG6yJH4lfaa9q2M40WrwdNjZ6-aYMaomVFCXN9BTBATK8M0M_aem_AXqINt7Q0FVnd1LuY3pctI60i_4NO7tWoZQg4VOZJLCS36UJmFErtCm6I5hRfbja33rXQnq8fTir-cBkgTX8LZCE

Interesting the clue at the end of the article...

Arnor is coming and I am here for it!

New captain looks good. Nice to see both foot and mounted versions. I'm keen to see what else they get for their re-release. I hope they get some sort of siege weapon like a ballista or something.

A blessing from the lord!

I do enjoy some of these new minis, but I'm too stuck in my old ways to buy things in resin. Rank and file in plastic, heroes in metal, elites can go either. Thankfully I did a big old track down back in 2012 with they were phasing out metal so I've got pretty much all I need, with some additional stuff provided by the wealth of historicals (and the old fantasy) that now exists out there outside GW.

They redo the Last Alliance plastics though and I'm all in.

Well he looks neat. Hopefully there's a generic mounted version coming as well.

Genuinely unsure about what the teaser is. I'm half tempted to say something Mordor.

My bet on an Angmar creature.
Yeah, now character is great and I am loving it. I have no Arnor miniatures at all: planning to buy everything new on launch. And can't wait.

C'mon combat hobbits! Hombats, if you will.

 .Mikes. wrote:
C'mon combat hobbits! Hombats, if you will.

Hobbits with bows and light armour would be cool.

Well these prices are getting a bit naff.

The mounted characters have consistently been $40 for as far back as I can remember ordering from MtOs., they've jumped up to $55 this time around. Still, I'm fortunate I only need Eomer. Defenders and Heroes are cheaper then I expected at $120 and $135 respectively, yet more then I'd have liked. 2 Years ago, the full Easterling Warband was only $110 and that was 12 warriors + captain and bannerman. Still the sculpts from Defenders are rare enough that they still work out at good value over hunting them down 2nd hand in both dollar value and time spent.
$55 for the captain and bannerman is a bit steep, but again, rarity makes it slightly more palatable. Looking back over previous orders most 3 model sets were about $40. So another big jump.

Oh I don't know. I was expecting £45-50 for the defenders box and it was £42.50. I was actually pleasantly surprised.

Stupid question as I only really have the funds to pick up one. Which one is 'better' - not gameplay wise, but long term value wise? I'm slowly building my heroes of the LOTR collection, but each one offers a slightly different grouping.

blockade23 wrote:
Stupid question as I only really have the funds to pick up one. Which one is 'better' - not gameplay wise, but long term value wise? I'm slowly building my heroes of the LOTR collection, but each one offers a slightly different grouping.

Between Defenders of Rohan and Heroes of Helm's Deep?

The former is significantly rarer. The latter has appeared on MtO multiple times, and I'd wager will continue to appear in future runs, but even before then Defenders of Rohan was still harder to find and went for higher prices when it was

blockade23 wrote:
Stupid question as I only really have the funds to pick up one. Which one is 'better' - not gameplay wise, but long term value wise? I'm slowly building my heroes of the LOTR collection, but each one offers a slightly different grouping.

Hero's is by far some of the most common sculpts you can find. The aragorn and theoden you can pick up for a couple of pounds each and the the rest aren't much more expensive.

Well, this one flew right under my radar.

Not heard anything about it, but I am glad to see GW doing more Boardgames.

https://www.warhammer.com/en-IE/shop/the-lord-of-the-rings-quest-to-mount-doom-eng-2024

They did say it was coming last week. But it's just a reprint of the one from like two years ago I think.

 stonehorse wrote:
Well, this one flew right under my radar.

Not heard anything about it, but I am glad to see GW doing more Boardgames.

https://www.warhammer.com/en-IE/shop/the-lord-of-the-rings-quest-to-mount-doom-eng-2024

Wasn't sure about this one- thought about picking it up but it seems quite expensive for a board game which is basically the fellowship sprue and what appears to a slightly more elaborate snakes and ladders board.

The Moria one they did previously felt more like a mini-wargame and whilst I've not got around to painting it felt like it has more playability (at least being able to be pulled out for quick games once a year perhaps at our winters game days or something) and was a lot cheaper in comparison to this one.

It was available previously, so there are probably some reviews out there.

 Mallo wrote:

Spoiler:

 stonehorse wrote:
Well, this one flew right under my radar.

Not heard anything about it, but I am glad to see GW doing more Boardgames.

https://www.warhammer.com/en-IE/shop/the-lord-of-the-rings-quest-to-mount-doom-eng-2024

Wasn't sure about this one- thought about picking it up but it seems quite expensive for a board game which is basically the fellowship sprue and what appears to a slightly more elaborate snakes and ladders board.

The Moria one they did previously felt more like a mini-wargame and whilst I've not got around to painting it felt like it has more playability (at least being able to be pulled out for quick games once a year perhaps at our winters game days or something) and was a lot cheaper in comparison to this one.

It was available previously, so there are probably some reviews out there.

Yup, and it doesn't look promising - mediocre to bad is the general vibe. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/257324/the-lord-of-the-rings-quest-to-mount-doom/ratings
Game design feels antiquated, and not befitting its theme either. Probably fine to play with younger children, but then, why not play something actually good that everyone can enjoy? Especially when you can purchase multiple games for the price of this single uninspired specimen.

 stonehorse wrote:
Well, this one flew right under my radar.

Not heard anything about it, but I am glad to see GW doing more Boardgames.

https://www.warhammer.com/en-IE/shop/the-lord-of-the-rings-quest-to-mount-doom-eng-2024

It is a re-release. And it is a terrible game: a sort of a race game where the first player who casts the ring into the fire of Mount doom wins....

When I look at the game, just taking it in as a concept, if I were to design it I'd assume you'd do sort of a Runebound/Arkham Horror/Talisman move-around-the-board-and-have-an-adventure type of game. You'd want like a deck of 200 different event cards. And it's GW, they mass produce minis in their own factory for less than a penny each (unless you're a stan, in which case I understand it's times-a-million that much), why not design the game to include some boss orc minis to represent warbands or armies, a few monsters who you have to face if you want through an area, etc.? I paid $60 to get War of the Ring, this game, as it actually is, seems pretty light by comparison.