I've honestly had that same gripe with a lot of the plastic ME characters. Dunno if it's just the paint style, but very few of the named characters have looked "right" to me, as far as faces go. Might just be that I'm more nostalgic for the older sculpts though.
Tim the Biovore wrote:Yeah, that was all for Middle Earth.
Balls.
I've honestly had that same gripe with a lot of the plastic ME characters. Dunno if it's just the paint style, but very few of the named characters have looked "right" to me, as far as faces go. Might just be that I'm more nostalgic for the older sculpts though.
Agreed. None of the other plastic hobbits looks right either. Mines of Moria suffers mostly because it's an older kit. But the newer plastic Merry/Pippin don't look good either. Pippin has no nose, both have clumpy, lumpy hair (another failing of CAD).
But then you get sculpts like Eomer or the King of the Dead, which are just superb and don't suffer those problems.
Eiríkr wrote:The Perry twins are unparalleled in their sculpting skills, it is a very high bar!
That's a truth if ever there was one. The fact that one of them does it one handed, always boggles my mind.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Tree beard is a certain improvement on an already pretty decent model. The advantage of plastic over metal, if you ask me.
Oh Treebeard himself is very nice. A better model if only by dint of not being a honking great chunk of metal. It's just a shame the regular plastic ents aren't overly customizable.
Tim the Biovore wrote: I've honestly had that same gripe with a lot of the plastic ME characters. Dunno if it's just the paint style, but very few of the named characters have looked "right" to me, as far as faces go. Might just be that I'm more nostalgic for the older sculpts though.
Can't disagree with you there; Éomer's one of the few that on first inspection actually somewhat reminded me of the actor, and some of the others (Three Hunters Legolas...) are just outright bad even beyond likenesses. Plastic limitations perhaps, and sculptor's limitations too. Thankfully we have a dozen or so older metal sculpts available of most characters, quite a few of which can be found for reasonable prices second hand.
Tim the Biovore wrote: I've honestly had that same gripe with a lot of the plastic ME characters. Dunno if it's just the paint style, but very few of the named characters have looked "right" to me, as far as faces go. Might just be that I'm more nostalgic for the older sculpts though.
Can't disagree with you there; Éomer's one of the few that on first inspection actually somewhat reminded me of the actor, and some of the others (Three Hunters Legolas...) are just outright bad even beyond likenesses. Plastic limitations perhaps, and sculptor's limitations too. Thankfully we have a dozen or so older metal sculpts available of most characters, quite a few of which can be found for reasonable prices second hand.
I think,the newest Gandalf really closely resembles Ian McKellen
The newest Gandalf looks extremely like McKellen. But to be honest, i don't really have an issue with the models not looking like the actors. They don't really need to look identical at this point.
Wait, what? Did the Perry brothers sculpt the new Treebeard? I'm also happy it's plastic, not resin. FW would have charged at least 70 euros for that, if not a 100...
CragHack wrote: Wait, what? Did the Perry brothers sculpt the new Treebeard? I'm also happy it's plastic, not resin. FW would have charged at least 70 euros for that, if not a 100...
No, at least not that I am aware of.
I was simply commenting on their skill in bringing an uncanny likeness to so many of the older models (almost all of them, I think!).
CragHack wrote: Wait, what? Did the Perry brothers sculpt the new Treebeard? I'm also happy it's plastic, not resin. FW would have charged at least 70 euros for that, if not a 100...
I've honestly had that same gripe with a lot of the plastic ME characters. Dunno if it's just the paint style, but very few of the named characters have looked "right" to me, as far as faces go. Might just be that I'm more nostalgic for the older sculpts though.
One thing with models based on real people, you need to see them bare without any paint on them, as the painting process for scale miniatures (exaggerating shadows and highlights) tends to make the "real" people look wonky. Your brain knows what these people are supposed to look like in real life, and at such a small scale it's near impossible to make it look right.
I remember getting some of the older Hobbits (metal ones) that looked completely awful in GW's images in books and online... but in the flesh and in the bare metal they looked really remarkable, they matched the actors incredibly well given how poorly they looked in GW's promotional materials. It almost prompted me to buy a bunch of the metal LOTR character models until I remembered I suck at painting too much to do them justice, lol.
I don't know what the more recent batches of plastics are like, I haven't bought any, but to judge them they need to be seen in bare plastic IMO.
It's just a real issue with models based on actual people rather than generic faces invented by the sculptor. It's made worse by the fact GW aficionados tend to be used to the larger scale Warhammer/40k models which for all their unrealistic proportions are actually much easier to paint the faces realistically.
The Last Alliance will involve entire range re-designs, new character releases (multiples) and at least a new book. That's a major investment for a Specialist Games sub-team at a time when GW are not firing on all cylinders.
The Last Alliance will involve entire range re-designs, new character releases (multiples) and at least a new book. That's a major investment for a Specialist Games sub-team at a time when GW are not firing on all cylinders.
Last Alliance will come. Be patient.
Yeah. But quite a few predicted announcement was now. So much for that.
Still i don't expect more than book and couple characters, maybe 2 as plastic. Gw hasn't shown interest on redoing troops. No reason to expect that to change
I went ahead and grabbed the mounted Legolas model. I was tempted to get the Ent as well, but I have no real desire to start a Fangorn force despite that awesome new Treebeard model that's been announced. A lot of the rest was already out of stock and none of it was anything I need, so I picked up a few assorted things for my existing LOTR armies to fill out my order.
The Last Alliance will involve entire range re-designs, new character releases (multiples) and at least a new book. That's a major investment for a Specialist Games sub-team at a time when GW are not firing on all cylinders.
Last Alliance will come. Be patient.
Yeah. But quite a few predicted announcement was now. So much for that.
Still i don't expect more than book and couple characters, maybe 2 as plastic. Gw hasn't shown interest on redoing troops. No reason to expect that to change
The Last Alliance is the oldest model range in the ME catalogue. There's a reason we aren't seeing it yet. The infantry will need to be remade. It will take a lot of resources and input, and GW clearly aren't in a position to commit to that right now. They churn out releases for fun in other game systems. Redoing a basic infantry box for Elves and Numenor is very feasible when they are back up on full capacity.
Again: they have shown zero interest so far doing redo's of existing troop models. As such i have zero expectation they will do. Nothing in la supplement requires plastic non-heroes. Ergo unlikely anything comes.
Current plastics are sufficient. You can do la supplement with just plastic hero or two and rest of new models fw resin just like other supplements were. Expecting more is just setting a way to dissapointment.
Well, I was right. Package came while I was at work. However they left this one on the doorstep, which is unusual as in the past, i've always had to sign for them and if missed, they go back to the post office.
tneva82 wrote: Again: they have shown zero interest so far doing redo's of existing troop models. As such i have zero expectation they will do. Nothing in la supplement requires plastic non-heroes. Ergo unlikely anything comes.
Current plastics are sufficient. You can do la supplement with just plastic hero or two and rest of new models fw resin just like other supplements were. Expecting more is just setting a way to dissapointment.
I look forward to revisiting this thread in the future, then!
Had my order arrive yesterday ... checkEd all was fine before the wife took them away for Yule presents... Gimli looks cool and the battering ram will be fun to build.
2021 will be the 20th anniversary of the game. Yes 20 years of wargaming in Middle-Earth and 20 years we saw The Fellowship of the Ring in theaters...
Hope GW will celebrate this in same way.
I'd like to see the scenario boxsets make a return, even if just via MtO. It's my hobby goal for the new year (and for the next two as well) to paint up all of my relevant Middle-Earth miniatures, and it'd be particularly nice for me if GW paid a similar sort of attention to the range.
Tim the Biovore wrote: I'd like to see the scenario boxsets make a return, even if just via MtO. It's my hobby goal for the new year (and for the next two as well) to paint up all of my relevant Middle-Earth miniatures, and it'd be particularly nice for me if GW paid a similar sort of attention to the range.
If those metal Rangers return, I am so in. The two named Rangers from FW were a commission payment from a friend of mine and holy hell. Gorgeous.
The very naïve part of me hopes for a Rhovanion book during the War of the Ring; Erebor (under Dain) + a 'modern' Dale force versus the Easterlings. It would get them to shift some of those older Hobbit boxes at least.
Arbitrator wrote: The very naïve part of me hopes for a Rhovanion book during the War of the Ring; Erebor (under Dain) + a 'modern' Dale force versus the Easterlings. It would get them to shift some of those older Hobbit boxes at least.
Man, lot of us are waiting for something like this...
New Easterlings are fairly well-timed for me, as I just picked up Amdur and an Easterling Command set to flesh out my leadership options for my small Easterling army.
Arbitrator wrote: The very naïve part of me hopes for a Rhovanion book during the War of the Ring; Erebor (under Dain) + a 'modern' Dale force versus the Easterlings. It would get them to shift some of those older Hobbit boxes at least.
This would be fantastic. I've wanted to see some sort of delve into this campaign for a long time, as it's just appendices in the books. Lots of room to do cool stuff, and I love some LotR Dwarves and Easterlings.
Any way you slice it new Easterlings makes me want to get back into SBG.
Easterlings could certainly do with another troop choice or two, so that's good news.
Looks like sword, dagger and throwing daggers, which I'm not a huge fan of (from a realism point of view), but at least it's something different.
War for Dale/Erebor at the end of the War of the Ring would be an excellent setting indeed. Erebor can be some combination of the plastics and Iron Hills troops with maybe a new "old Dain" and Thorin Stonehelm (his son and successor), Dale could get a new contemporary character in the forms of King Brand and Prince Bard II with maybe a new troop choice and a model for a banner or so, and then some similar reinforcements for the Easterlings: new character, new troop type. Could be nice.
Oh, blimey, I've been buying up some of the early metals in preparation for the 20th Anniversary, and was eyeing off all of those elves on eBay. Nice way to save a bit of money, and a good sign for the year that they're bringing back narrative-relevant sculpts
I'm trying to avoid buying new minis until many are painted, but holy crap! I'll need all of these. Especially if this is a limited-time release. Plus, my LOTR stuff is my big project for the year.
Seeing the Dead Marsh Spectres come back makes me wish they would bring out a Shadows of Mordor/War kit for the Ranger and the Spectre. Would be an amazing opportunity to do a halvsies kit of see-through plastic 'overlays' for the Spectre!
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Amazing. I just bought orc armour frodo and Sam on eBay for a packet... Nightmare. But they are original blister pack so it's not too bad.
I almost know the feeling, I've been watching those cave trolls on eBay for a while, they just didn't quite make the priority soon enough
Does leave me a bit unsure about the other boxed sets I've been eyeing off too, if Amon Hen is back, I wonder if Weathertop will be too
Well, now I won't have to feel too bad about cutting up a spare Círdan.
Frodo and Sam in orc armour, phew, those sure wouldn't have made my list of things expected to return any time soon. Were they featured in a Quest of the Ringbearer scenario by any chance? It's the only reason I can think of to bring them back specifically, while many other figures are still out of production, and the team is limited in how many products they are allowed to have in the range.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Amazing. I just bought orc armour frodo and Sam on eBay for a packet... Nightmare. But they are original blister pack so it's not too bad.
I almost know the feeling, I've been watching those cave trolls on eBay for a while, they just didn't quite make the priority soon enough
Does leave me a bit unsure about the other boxed sets I've been eyeing off too, if Amon Hen is back, I wonder if Weathertop will be too
There are some nice kits there. Not that I need any more middle earth stuff. I have enough to cover most of the year already!
I did find it weird Elladan and Elrohir weren't coming back when they made a point of Rivendell characters returning, so seeing them on the list isn't much of a surprise but still a welcome one.
I've never played but I would like to. Thinking of making a small isengard/uruk hai force as I got lurtz, saruman and an isengard/Mordor troll for Christmas.
Eiríkr wrote: It's the best ruleset Games Workshop have ever made, seriously. I love playing Middle-Earth, and would play it over anything else offered.
yeah I've played one demo game and liked it a lot. I liked it more than AoS and 40k easily. BB/Underworlds are too different, although it did actually remind me of BB a little. It's a very good skirmish game with a setting you can't really beat.
I was unable to convince my group though. Since then I've connected with a couple of local players through other games and found out there's a pretty big scene in my area, so I know I'll be able to get a game.
I was planning on waiting for a new core set (whenever that may happen) and hoping we got new Rivendell minis, but if that never happens... then now seems like the best time to start. I can get a full elf army with options for around $200. Reasonable for any tabletop game, especially a GW one.
Red Viper wrote: Since then I've connected with a couple of local players through other games and found out there's a pretty big scene in my area, so I know I'll be able to get a game
You're in NOVA/DC area? Yeah man you have a very very large scene, the DC Hobbit League is great. Devin Moreno is also one of those Warhammer Heroes that GW does every year.
You're in NOVA/DC area? Yeah man you have a very very large scene, the DC Hobbit League is great. Devin Moreno is also one of those Warhammer Heroes that GW does every year.
Yup! Devin gave me my demo game like 5 years ago hah.
Even then I didn't realize I might be in one of the best places to play in the US.
Barrowights and Spectres too. I got my 9 and Haldir. Not really surprised about the wraiths though, it's the first time they've been available easily for about 18 years. *Edit. And everything's out of stock. I'm genuinely quite impressed, it wasn't even that long ago the barrowights and spectres disappeared off the site.
Ooh man. So keen for that Amon Hen set. If for only the chance to get a complete dying Boromir. So bloody hard to get one that has both horn halves and the 3 arrows for a reasonable price.
Everything else on that list is just a fat bonus.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hmm. Just saw the mordor orc captains.
Do we think they're referring to the 2 (almost) identical ones with picks, or the two infinitely rarer versions, one wearing a Gondorian breastplate and one with his arms in the air?
Oof. I was thinking about ordering a pack just for Gildor, but I guess that makes my decision for me (at least for now!). With these previous reprints, did it seem like it was quick/slow to get restock?
Snrub wrote: Ooh man. So keen for that Amon Hen set. If for only the chance to get a complete dying Boromir. So bloody hard to get one that has both horn halves and the 3 arrows for a reasonable price.
Everything else on that list is just a fat bonus.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hmm. Just saw the mordor orc captains.
Do we think they're referring to the 2 (almost) identical ones with picks, or the two infinitely rarer versions, one wearing a Gondorian breastplate and one with his arms in the air?
It would have to be the non twin versions. The pick one is still available in the command box i believe.
Damn, I wanted to at least get the mount Doom set, but I was too relaxed about it. If this isn't a MTO, why do they sell out? Is it just until they make some more?
Strange to make it a splash release, but i guess they just wanted to fill the week. Another Saturday sniping session. Hm so Witch King, Frodo & Sam and the captains for me i think.
Other than Cirdan, who I got via MtO, and most likely Arwen (time has not been kind to that sculpt), seems I'm in for it all. Going to be a very expensive weekend for me, I guess.
I might want that Galadriel, the Cave Troll with the hammer (I have the spear one already), the Orc Captains, and Murin & Drar, and possibly the Breaking of the Fellowship set (although I don't currently collect Isengard). We'll see how much all these cost before I make any decisions.
Man, I'm so getting that witchking, I've been waiting for him to return about... 10 years I think Let's just hope I'll get him before he's sold out again... Seems like those lotr releases don't last more than half an hour on preorder...
I wont get paid before saturday and thought it would be permanently back in store like the other release so I am out of cash for this one.
But I remembered that I had a lot of primaris marines new on sprue so hopefully I will get enough sold before saturday so I can get the Ambush at Amon Hen, Cirdan, Galadriel, orc captains, the twins and the witchking.
Damn, seeing all these amazing old minis sure brings back memories. The Amon Hen set, Elladan and Elrohir... Might just bite to have some of those, as back in the day when I played Lotr myself, there was no shop that stocked them apart from that weekly magazine, so I missed out on a lot of these lovelies.
CragHack wrote: Last time lotr releases didn’t sell fast. Took about 2-3 weeks for everything to sell out. It’s sure not like BL books that are gone in 10 mins.
CragHack wrote: Last time lotr releases didn’t sell fast. Took about 2-3 weeks for everything to sell out. It’s sure not like BL books that are gone in 10 mins.
Yes, but it was hours rather than minutes for a good few figures, not weeks. Of course, we have no way of knowing if the quantities produced in either release are equal or even remotely similar. Maybe there are more now, maybe fewer, and maybe the numbers are highly variable within the release wave too.
Giving GW the benefit of the doubt with covid production issues, but I'm getting really fed up with the constant limited quantities and fear of missing out messages. Some of these may just be alternate poses and I'm fine with those not being permanently available, but figures like Círdan should just be part of the standard range, period.
CragHack wrote: Last time lotr releases didn’t sell fast. Took about 2-3 weeks for everything to sell out. It’s sure not like BL books that are gone in 10 mins.
Certain things sold very quick though.
The wights and the dead marsh corpses were gone by the time I got on at about half past 10.
I reckon the Amon hen set will sell out fast on sat.
CragHack wrote: Last time lotr releases didn’t sell fast. Took about 2-3 weeks for everything to sell out. It’s sure not like BL books that are gone in 10 mins.
Certain things sold very quick though.
The wights and the dead marsh corpses were gone by the time I got on at about half past 10.
I reckon the Amon hen set will sell out fast on sat.
Last MtO, Theoden was sold out inside of about 5 minutes in Aus.
Yeah. I'll be waiting on the minute to try and get Amon hen. I'm not going to be too upset if I don't get it though. I don't really need any new lotr stuff and I would mainly be using it for a death of boromir diorama. Saying that the uruk hai carrying merry and pippin would make nice interest pieces for my isengard force...
If anyone's interested, it appears as though some of the UK pre-orders have come back in stock. But you have to click into the actual item page, as the pre-order page still shows everything out of stock.
I've been doing some math. What do we think of these price estimations for the upcoming MtOSuper-limited-get'em-while-they're-hot.
I've tried to base them off previous MtOs that I can remember/bought.
Well if I take similar direct comparisons, then it would appear I was a bit short. As it comes out closer to $500AUD
Well everything is by and large, priced in line with other models from the range. Although the Amon Hen kit is little bit over-priced I think. Considering this has 10 models and is roughly $125AUD which is the same price as the MtO orcs with had 14 models.
If you’ve been praying to Manwë that you can get your hands on this weekend’s releases for the Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game before our limited stock runs dry, you’ll be pleased to know they will now be available via our Made to Order service for one week instead. This means that stock won’t run out – provided you place it before 6pm GMT on Sunday the 31st of January, we’ll ensure we make enough extra models to honour every order.
If you’ve been praying to Manwë that you can get your hands on this weekend’s releases for the Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game before our limited stock runs dry, you’ll be pleased to know they will now be available via our Made to Order service for one week instead. This means that stock won’t run out – provided you place it before 6pm GMT on Sunday the 31st of January, we’ll ensure we make enough extra models to honour every order.
Worse news is how article refers to last week as part of cyclical releases suggesting it could be some time before they come back.
It’s worth mentioning, though, that they’re certainly not gone for good – they will return in the future as part of our cyclical releases for the Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game.
But at least they aren't gone for good and tomorrow isn't mad panic rush to avoid missing out like last week
Last weeks releases seem to be a bit unclear as this new article does say they are part of the cyclical releases so could be some time before they come back but GW have confirmed on the Facebook page that they are a permanent edition to the range several times and most briefly came back into stock last night.
Amazing! Lotr models for everyone! I read that as this week's are a limited edition week long made to order, whereas last week's stuff is
a permanent addition
Aeneades wrote: Last weeks releases seem to be a bit unclear as this new article does say they are part of the cyclical releases so could be some time before they come back but GW have confirmed on the Facebook page that they are a permanent edition to the range several times and most briefly came back into stock last night.
Gw seems to have miswrote article. Stealth update so last week back when in stock
Yeah, whoever wrote the article seems to have mixed up the two weeks.
Last week's additions are permanent additions to the range, until they're eventually cycled back out once more things are added and use up their available space.
Tomorrow's sculpts were going to be splash releases of limited stock that would eventually return again somewhere down the line, but are now MtO.
Very good news all around. I love those cave troll sculpts, and I would have felt a bit bad for swooping in early and picking up a couple each if it meant other people wouldn't get them.
Well that is splendid news. And somewhat of a relief. I would have hated to have missed out on the Witch-king or Orc Captains, like I did with Theoden on the last Grab-'em-while-you-can.
And now don't have to sit there smashing the f5 key every few seconds waiting for them to drop.
Just ordered everything but the trolls and Murin & Drar.
Also turns out I was closer in my first price estimation then I thought. Only $471AUD for everything. And while I still think Amon-hen was a bit overpriced at, $12 a model is fairly palatable.
I got Amon hen and the Orc captains. I had a cave troll in my basket but I removed it because they are easy enough to find second hand for a lower price, and being metal are easy to strip and rejuvenate.
Witch-King, Frodo and Sam, orc captains and Galadriel, because why not? Everything seemed quite reasonable apart from Amon-hen. Not sure why that got such a price boost. Got them literally just as the site updated, so hopefully no waiting on the mto for it.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: I got Amon hen and the Orc captains. I had a cave troll in my basket but I removed it because they are easy enough to find second hand for a lower price, and being metal are easy to strip and rejuvenate.
That was my entire reasoning for leaving out the trolls too. I'm not quite sure why I didn't just throw the dwarves in as well now as I don't see them very often. Oh well.
Youve got the rest of the week to order them if you like I guess? Are they characters from the book or gw additions? I don't recall their names. I might order them on Friday. It does say delivery within 180 days... Which is 6 months.
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Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Witch-King, Frodo and Sam, orc captains and Galadriel, because why not? Everything seemed quite reasonable apart from Amon-hen. Not sure why that got such a price boost. Got them literally just as the site updated, so hopefully no waiting on the mto for it.
Because they're like gold dust is my best guess. Demand is probably quite high for them.
Everything but Cirdan for me as I had picked him up in the first MTO. Hopefully won’t take too long to arrive (my order went in before 10 as they were up early) but already have a massive backlog so have more than another to keep me going.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Youve got the rest of the week to order them if you like I guess? Are they characters from the book or gw additions? I don't recall their names. I might order them on Friday. It does say delivery within 180 days... Which is 6 months.
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Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Witch-King, Frodo and Sam, orc captains and Galadriel, because why not? Everything seemed quite reasonable apart from Amon-hen. Not sure why that got such a price boost. Got them literally just as the site updated, so hopefully no waiting on the mto for it.
Because they're like gold dust is my best guess. Demand is probably quite high for them.
Is it really though? Most of it is quite easy to find seperately apart from a complete dying Boromir. Even the uruks carrying the hobbits tend to appear fairly regularly.
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Is it really though? Most of it is quite easy to find seperately apart from a complete dying Boromir. Even the uruks carrying the hobbits tend to appear fairly regularly.
Aragorn and Lurtz can be tricky to find, in my experience. When they do crop up, they always go for fairly high prices. Legolas and Gimli less so. All the Uruks are common enough, although the hobbit carrying pair do go for high prices normally.
The real golden egg is, as you say, Boromir. I see him regularly. But to find one with all 3 arrows and both horn parts is like not easy. And the few I have seen over the past year or so have all good for outrageous prices.
Even the very obvious resin recast I saw went for much more then it should have.
Slinky wrote: My "MTO" stuff has been dispatched, so looks like early orders are being sent out before the MTO period has expired.
As the GW said. Existing stock gets sent right away. Once those run out it's MTO.
Since there's still no delivery note for me I presume SOMETHING from order was already out of stock. And my purchase was 5 minutes after opening...Good thing it was MTO or it would have been another "sold out in minutes"! So much "this time it was intended as limited release so they made more" claims told to me. GW stocks short constantly. Limited or not. Stuff selling out in minutes is no surprise.
At least this time GW had decency to make it MTO after all...
Wonder which item I got that was sold out so fast. Cirdan? Quite possible. Well. Guess it doesn't kill me to wait for 180 days and then month+ for brexit delayed delivery
Slinky wrote: My "MTO" stuff has been dispatched, so looks like early orders are being sent out before the MTO period has expired.
As the GW said. Existing stock gets sent right away. Once those run out it's MTO.
Since there's still no delivery note for me I presume SOMETHING from order was already out of stock. And my purchase was 5 minutes after opening...Good thing it was MTO or it would have been another "sold out in minutes"! So much "this time it was intended as limited release so they made more" claims told to me. GW stocks short constantly. Limited or not. Stuff selling out in minutes is no surprise.
At least this time GW had decency to make it MTO after all...
Wonder which item I got that was sold out so fast. Cirdan? Quite possible. Well. Guess it doesn't kill me to wait for 180 days and then month+ for brexit delayed delivery
I ordered around 9:55 and my order hasn't shipped yet, the only model I didn't order was Cirdan so I suspect there was at least one more model that was in high demand.
Quite possible. Witch king seems to be also pretty high demand based on what people are ordering.
Or it could be it was most of stuff that got sold out in heartbeat Good in that it shows LOTR is popular, bad if GW tries to release something limited not-MTO...
I only just got mine shipped yesterday and I ordered about the same time as you. Chances are they're just taking their time working through the orders.
Red Viper wrote: I haven't gotten any shipping notifications for either weekend yet.
I'm a little worried also. I want that Glorfindel
Did you have it shipped to home and any non-preorder items in your order?
I'm guessing that the 'ship to home' thing, plus me also having a box of Wood Elves might be throwing it all off. I'm guessing we'll probably see our stuff next week though, Red.
Did you have it shipped to home and any non-preorder items in your order?
I'm guessing that the 'ship to home' thing, plus me also having a box of Wood Elves might be throwing it all off. I'm guessing we'll probably see our stuff next week though, Red.
I shipped to home and I had a couple of additional things, so yeah. Could be it
In game terms, Dragon Cult Acolytes act as an elite warrior choice for Easterling armies. Possessing a Fight value of 4, they can to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Dwarves
Hopefully that's a deliberate hint of these being in a WotR Dale book.
Boy howdy am I glad I got mine as a commission when I did!
Maybe they're going to be repackaging them into something else, or there's a resculpt coming for Faramir and his 'commanders' and GW has decided to move them into it?
Literally scrolled past the silhouette preview yesterday when looking for some article on WarCom and thought "huh, nearly forgot about those, wonder when we'll finally see more of them?".
They look alright, not sold on all parts of the design but the poses are decent, and as said at the first preview: thank the Valar the Easterlings finally have another troop choice!
Hmm, they'll be out "soon" and this is a new "series" of articles... wonder if we'll hear more about the supplement next week already? Middle-earth has been a bit quiet lately, so any semi-regular news releases would be welcome.
There's probably another Preview stream in a few weeks for the inevitable Sisters/Ork reveals so I wouldn't be surprised if they made an announcement for it then unless it turns out to be a 40k-only affair.
If it IS the Siege of Dale they'd presumably have a few kits to show off like King Brand, maybe an Old Dain (although they could just repaint the existing one), maybe Dale cavalry, at least some kind of special archer unit? Plus if they're pushing out anymore for the Easterlings.
Wouldn't be surprised to see a new mid-range named hero for the Easterlings perhaps?
Will be interesting to see if they do a separate old Dáin, both as a sculpt (the current one is rather nice already, so certainly not necessary) and as a profile - they've consolidated some profile variants in the last few years (Elrond, Thranduil, Legolas), but occasionally keep them or add new ones for specific circumstances, so difficult to predict.
Does the license allow them to make models of characters who were in the film but in costumes/periods that weren't depicted? The only example I can think of is Scouring-Saruman and he's notably covered by a cloak (Grima similarly has hair covering his features.
It does, but they're not allowed to use the likenesses of the actors. As you pointed out, Christoper Lee's face is hooded over and Grima's arm is covering his face.
I mean, there must be a supplement on the way, right? A new unit type for Easterlings would be an incredibly random release to just throw out there. Some new sculpt for an existing profile, sure, but not something like this.
No idea why these are released early and in the same week as the Ents (if the latter hadn't been there, I can see the point in wanting to release *something*), but FW release schedules are all over the place anyway.
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: I mean, there must be a supplement on the way, right? A new unit type for Easterlings would be an incredibly random release to just throw out there. Some new sculpt for an existing profile, sure, but not something like this.
No idea why these are released early and in the same week as the Ents (if the latter hadn't been there, I can see the point in wanting to release *something*), but FW release schedules are all over the place anyway.
There is also the delay with the book printing (see delay of DG codex). Maybe something to do with that, that the schedule is somehow off timing? In the FB group they also mentioned the Mumak war leader and thr new FW named rangers as examples that were released before the supplements
Has anyone done a scaled side-by-side of the new Easterlings with the plastic warriors? Can't help but wonder if the "swift and agile assassins" are going to look like hulked-out roid monsters next to the troops. Slight scale differences are relatively easy to overlook, but those arms put Uruks to shame!
Yeah, some of the new FW miniatures (Like dol almroth foot knights) are more heroically proportioned (Like old black numenoreans). But they look good enough.
And man, I would love for a new supplement. MESBG supplements are phenomenal. For me, they offer more gameplay value than 5-6 aos/40k codex/battletomes combined.
From the scenarios to the campaings, and the legendary legions. The Black Riders have become my favourite army in all the game, and the best legendary legion for me (With the exception of Dunland, but Dunland is less a legendary legion and his own proper faction).
I know the support this game gets is minimal even compared with stuff like necromunda but I'm happy enough with 2-3 of this books each year.
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: I mean, there must be a supplement on the way, right? A new unit type for Easterlings would be an incredibly random release to just throw out there. Some new sculpt for an existing profile, sure, but not something like this.
No idea why these are released early and in the same week as the Ents (if the latter hadn't been there, I can see the point in wanting to release *something*), but FW release schedules are all over the place anyway.
There is also the delay with the book printing (see delay of DG codex). Maybe something to do with that, that the schedule is somehow off timing? In the FB group they also mentioned the Mumak war leader and thr new FW named rangers as examples that were released before the supplements
Precisely because they've done it several times before (the only example I seemed to remember was the first wave of Iron Hills dwarves back in the day; thanks for reminding me of the other cases), I wasn't sure if a delay due to the current situation was specifically a reason here, though it may certainly be the reason they did it this time.
Thinking about it, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if it just became common practice: release models whenever they have something to release, put the rules online for download, and later publish them in a suitable book. They could just release whatever they liked for whatever army, filling unconnected gaps in the various factions.
I keep telling myself that I don’t need more special edition dice but damn those Fangorn dice are nice. Definitely going to try and grab some with Treebeard and Quickbeam.
Mistakes in instructions are fairly common. Wonder how bad this was if they release new one(once spent 5 mins searching for part that was misnumbered in instructions. Solved only by forgetting part number and searching by how part looks like)
I'm glad Treebeard is plastic, that resin Ent FW is putting out looks so fragile.
FW's Middle Earth stuff is beautiful but the scale creep is getting concerning. It's probably a consequence of using resin vs. metal. I would love it if GW contracted the Perry brothers to sculpt some more MESBG stuff, their models have aged incredibly well for what are 18-20 year old sculpts.
Tim the Biovore wrote: Not 100% sold on the miniatures, but I love that axe. And the all but confirmed Erebor-Dale-Easterling supplement is very welcome.
Paint job kills it somewhat, but mini's are fine. That explains where the Easterling rules are going to end up.
Tim the Biovore wrote: Not 100% sold on the miniatures, but I love that axe. And the all but confirmed Erebor-Dale-Easterling supplement is very welcome.
Tim the Biovore wrote: Not 100% sold on the miniatures, but I love that axe. And the all but confirmed Erebor-Dale-Easterling supplement is very welcome.
Ah, so Dain does get a "new" profile, but it's basically his old (pre-Hobbit movies) profile. Funny that they explicitly gave him his "red axe" now, which he is described as having used during the War of the Dwarves and the Orcs. A conflation of so many time lines and iterations.
Nice sculpt too. Thorin's alright, nothing too special. And yay! Confirmation of the expansion.
On Treebeard, parts 61 and 62 are missed off the instructions completely. Part 61 goes on the right foot; part 62 is the model's right pinkie (small finger).
The model is a real 3D puzzle anyway - you'll be doing a lot of part fitting and turning to see how things go together. Arm and leg parts tend not to form simple, fully enclosed "tube" structures, and many of the sprue attachments are on the flat parts that are meant to be glued shut.
As pointed out above, there's a pdf with the correct instructions available. Most annoying thing about him was his right foot i thought.
*Edit* i wonder if we'll get an adult Bain to go in this release as well?
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: As pointed out above, there's a pdf with the correct instructions available. Most annoying thing about him was his right foot i thought.
I know, thanks, just pointing out that it's a couple of small pieces.
I built the leg then attached the right foot pieces onto that.
The other tricky bit was the top of his head. I found it easier to do the opposite - put the two pieces together, then work out how that fitted on the head.
Ah ok, well the best value to get started is with the Pellenor box. If you're interested in Rohan, Mordor or Dunharrow, then it's a no brainer as you're getting the rulebook as well.
If not then you'll want the rulebook and then either Armies of Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit depending on your army choice. Ignore the supplements for now and just focus on those two books.
In terms of models, you'll probably want two boxes of troops and either a command pack or character of your choice. That should get you going well enough.
I like the old Dain better, but Yay for Dwarves! Hopefully some more plastics come along with this. Easterlings need plastic dragon warriors and dwarves could really use a plastic version of Iron/Khazard Guard.
I hope they stay away from the ridiculous Hobbit-esque dwaven cavalry. I like my dwarves with their feet firmly on the ground thank you very much.
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Ah ok, well the best value to get started is with the Pellenor box. If you're interested in Rohan, Mordor or Dunharrow, then it's a no brainer as you're getting the rulebook as well.
If not then you'll want the rulebook and then either Armies of Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit depending on your army choice. Ignore the supplements for now and just focus on those two books.
In terms of models, you'll probably want two boxes of troops and either a command pack or character of your choice. That should get you going well enough.
Q though does he want lotr or wotr. 2 different game
Old Dain and Thorin III's rules are up with the pre-order. Taking either of them changes the Iron Hills keyword to Erebor and Garrison of Dale can be taken as Historical Allies but you can't take the deceased members of Thorin's Company.
The Alliance box sneakily confirms Brand and Bard II are coming also, although the former's not a surprise.
Bugger. Should probably pick these up while I can.
Really keen for the return of all the woodelf stuff. Both the unarmoured captain and armoured captain calling out are rare as hens teeth.
I shudder to think of the price you'll pay for those spiders though. The Hobbit Mirkwood spiders are stupidly expensive ($60AUD for 2!). Having a mix pack as the only way to get the old version of spiders is not at all encouraging. Also not entirely sure why they say the Castellans are returning. They're already available, albeit as a two pack instead of 3.
Also, has anyone else received their MTO stuff from January? Mine is still pending. I know they said to allow 180 days, which would make it roughly the 20th of July a month away, but I thought maybe the odd order would have trickled out by now to people.
Snrub wrote: Also, has anyone else received their MTO stuff from January? Mine is still pending. I know they said to allow 180 days, which would make it roughly the 20th of July a month away, but I thought maybe the odd order would have trickled out by now to people.
Received mine months ago. Bit odd that it's taking so long for you, but as you said, not quite out of the fulfillment period
Tim the Biovore wrote: Received mine months ago. Bit odd that it's taking so long for you, but as you said, not quite out of the fulfillment period
If I remember correcetly, they had stock enough for a bunch of first-in best-dressed orders, and then everyone who was too slow would have to wait until they restocked. So maybe yours was one of them? I know I dillydallied a bit (and then forgot to add Murin and Drar to the order! ) so I would have missed out on that initial run.
Tim the Biovore wrote: Received mine months ago. Bit odd that it's taking so long for you, but as you said, not quite out of the fulfillment period
If I remember correcetly, they had stock enough for a bunch of first-in best-dressed orders, and then everyone who was too slow would have to wait until they restocked. So maybe yours was one of them? I know I dillydallied a bit (and then forgot to add Murin and Drar to the order! ) so I would have missed out on that initial run.
I'd split my order in half, one the morning it went up and one the day before it ended, and they arrived within a few days of each other. It all still arrived unusually quickly given my expectations from earlier MTOs, so it may have just been extremely coincidental that the second half was low demand items that they still had in stock. Might be worth shooting a message to customer service though, with old Blood Bowl stuff having a run this weekend. Wouldn't be the first time they've overlapped MTOs, but better to check in sooner rather than later.
On another note, I'm hoping the repackaged Galadrim command sets have all reverted back to metal like the Isengard command sets did when they were redone. The resin versions are not pretty.
Now this is how you manage your game system properly. "They will be disappearing". "No worries, they WILL be back sometime in the future". No one panics, no one gets angry.
CragHack wrote: Now this is how you manage your game system properly. "They will be disappearing". "No worries, they WILL be back sometime in the future". No one panics, no one gets angry.
Curious how LOTR is so well managed and communicated compared to 40k
Probably because there are people who actually care about the game and love doing so. Not some random interns with random visions, who come and leave after few years.
Tim the Biovore wrote: Might be worth shooting a message to customer service though, with old Blood Bowl stuff having a run this weekend. Wouldn't be the first time they've overlapped MTOs, but better to check in sooner rather than later.
That's not a bad idea actually. Even if they're not dispatching them yet, it'd be nice to know they're still on top of it.
Tim the Biovore wrote: Might be worth shooting a message to customer service though, with old Blood Bowl stuff having a run this weekend. Wouldn't be the first time they've overlapped MTOs, but better to check in sooner rather than later.
That's not a bad idea actually. Even if they're not dispatching them yet, it'd be nice to know they're still on top of it.
I had a problem like this a few months ago, where a single out of stock item held up an order for two months. Genuinely thought it had gotten lost or something, but nope. The out of stock item meant the order got pushed back in the packing queue and since the item went out of stock after the order was placed it fell through some cracks.
Snrub wrote: Also not entirely sure why they say the Castellans are returning. They're already available, albeit as a two pack instead of 3.
The current 2 pack is two random sculpts out of three. The repack is all three sculpts in a pack, so you're not like "I ordered three packs and got three each of pose A and B and none of C!"
Well, guess woodelfs make sense given the upcoming war in the north...but I hope the next wave finally brings the missing moria goblin range back. Although I have so much stuff to paint and my Moria army is just a side-side-sideproject but still.
I'd be surprised if the next wave isn't the mounted War Priest, the missing Khand sculpts, Captain of Dale, some other Hobbit sculpts than went OOP. If they're covering Mirkwood and potentially Lothlorien as well as Dale/Erebor it's looking like a pretty jampacked book already.
Man I really hope to se new Dale profiles - and not only heroes - for this nice faction, something like what they did for Dunlendings would be awesome.
Golfimbul seems extremely popular - I had a "back in stock" email at 5am, by the time I was awake and followed the link at 8am, he was sold out again!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Almost immediately after I posted that, I got another "back in stock" email, I have now secured him and Bandobras Took, which were all the models left I needed to work through the old Scouring of the Shire book (one of these days)
Johanxp wrote: Man I really hope to se new Dale profiles - and not only heroes - for this nice faction, something like what they did for Dunlendings would be awesome.
I could see them getting some elite archer models.
Maybe cavalry? Even if it's just 'Warriors of Dale on horses'.
Slinky wrote: Golfimbul seems extremely popular - I had a "back in stock" email at 5am, by the time I was awake and followed the link at 8am, he was sold out again!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Almost immediately after I posted that, I got another "back in stock" email, I have now secured him and Bandobras Took, which were all the models left I needed to work through the old Scouring of the Shire book (one of these days)
Did you click through to the individual product? For some reason the main page has a delay in removing the out of stock banner, but if you go into the product it's there (might be out of stock by now of course).
Tim the Biovore wrote: Might be worth shooting a message to customer service though, with old Blood Bowl stuff having a run this weekend. Wouldn't be the first time they've overlapped MTOs, but better to check in sooner rather than later.
That's not a bad idea actually. Even if they're not dispatching them yet, it'd be nice to know they're still on top of it.
Right, so I got a reply back from GW the other day about the January MTOs.
GW customer service wrote:Hi,
These were due to ship out this month but have yet to arrive so we are currently chasing the UK on when we might expect them.
Apologies for the delay and thank you for your patience.
So it seems for Australians at least, if you haven't got it yet, you just have to hold on a bit longer. I'd imagine this would largely be the same for other countries too.
It's unfortunate, but also understandable given the current circumstances.
It's been a while since I played M-E SBG, but what business does Bard II have having a D of 7? Is he wearing heavy armour? It doesn't look like it. Unless they want to hand wave it away as being a gift from the dwarves...
On the positive side, these all look like nice models. My only complaint would be Brand's feet being slightly too far apart. Here's hoping we get some more Easterling releases!
I do agree D7 sound a bit strange with that light armour. But hey models are really nice and I play Dale (plus Erebor) since they came out in Hobbit era so I feel very excited!
The elite Knights of Dale whose equipment he shares are specifically said to wear heavy armour, so the D7 is indeed just a result of heavy armour plus shield. I don't hate the idea of justifying it by saying there's some Dwarven craftmanship involved, as it does indeed seem a bit ligth otherwise (though the game has and had ample inconsistencies in that area over the years anyway).
Brand does indeed look a bit unnaturally posed, but Bard II and the Knights are pretty nice sculpts and designs; good additions to the range.
I do kind of wish they moved away from the near-constant "this guy is a major leader, so needs to have 3 attacks and 3 wounds" as it doesn't feel the most natural or justified in some cases, but I guess that's just the convention of the game by now. (With a few exceptions. Poor Círdan.)
The aesthetic for some of the hobbit armies is something i've struggled to get behind. I assume it's because I couldn't even manage to sit through the 1st movie in full, so my view of the accompanying models are tainted by it.
Everything is just too ornate I think, and in the case of the Dale warriors, a case of too many clashing elements.
Fine models, just not for me, I guess.
Snrub wrote: The aesthetic for some of the hobbit armies is something i've struggled to get behind. I assume it's because I couldn't even manage to sit through the 1st movie in full, so my view of the accompanying models are tainted by it.
I know what you mean, but I actually quite like the models, I just have to avoid remembering the films
The Iron Hills dwarves in particular are really nice IMO.
Slinky wrote: The Iron Hills dwarves in particular are really nice IMO.
The Dwarves are the line I have the most issue with. They're too lithe for dwarves I feel and I just don't like Hobbit aesthetic compared to the LotR versions.
I didn't like the armoured Mirkwood elves at first, but i've come around to their armour style. It's a nice variation to the Lorian/Rivendell look. Although the Mirkwood rangers are nothing short of a travesty.
Snrub wrote: The aesthetic for some of the hobbit armies is something i've struggled to get behind. I assume it's because I couldn't even manage to sit through the 1st movie in full, so my view of the accompanying models are tainted by it.
Everything is just too ornate I think, and in the case of the Dale warriors, a case of too many clashing elements. Fine models, just not for me, I guess.
The Hobbit stuff is definitely too ornate (except the Iron Hills).
I think Bard II is perfect though, but he does look very out of place next to his men and father, especially at D7.
Brand I think will look better with a 360 view, the picture looks too 'front heavy' with both the symbol on the shield and his chestplate, but the rest of him doesn't look too overdesigned.
The Knights are... alright. The existing Warrior design was always very meh and felt far too ornate compared to the other kingdoms, even if Dale was meant to be rich. A lot of The Hobbit costumes felt overly busy for the sake of it. I do prefer their helmets to the pointy NotRus hats though and will probably look better without the crest.
Amon Hen resin scenery Ruins of Dol Guldur modular scenery New Witch King Fall of the Necromancer supple - New Line copyright edition Defence of the North supplement
Really like the Witch King, and while terrain doesn’t usually do much for me, I actually really like both terrain kits. Dread to think the Amon Hen price though!
ImAGeek wrote: Really like the Witch King, and while terrain doesn’t usually do much for me, I actually really like both terrain kits. Dread to think the Amon Hen price though!
£150 plus tip and then Last Chance To Buy in 6-9 months.
ImAGeek wrote: Really like the Witch King, and while terrain doesn’t usually do much for me, I actually really like both terrain kits. Dread to think the Amon Hen price though!
£150 plus tip and then Last Chance To Buy in 6-9 months.
£150 for something of that size and quality would be extremely good. Especially considering Amon-Sul is a £100 more and much more enclosed.
ImAGeek wrote: Really like the Witch King, and while terrain doesn’t usually do much for me, I actually really like both terrain kits. Dread to think the Amon Hen price though!
£150 plus tip and then Last Chance To Buy in 6-9 months.
Really didnt expect the announcement of a fall of the necromancer source book in addition to the war in the north. I thought they just expand war in the north to the dol goldur conflicts and lorien. Also, they must be pretty delayed that they are annoincing both these sourcebooks.
Bago wrote: Really didnt expect the announcement of a fall of the necromancer source book in addition to the war in the north. I thought they just expand war in the north to the dol goldur conflicts and lorien. Also, they must be pretty delayed that they are annoincing both these sourcebooks.
Announcing Defence of the North now, even if it's just a title, makes sense when you consider they already spoilt that a War in the North book was coming with Dain/Brand. Announcing Fall of the Necromancer by itself would confuse a lot of people. "Is this the book the new Dale/Easterling stuff is coming in?" I guess with hindsight, they teased this with the Wood Elf MTO announcement suggesting they were relevant to an upcoming supplement, it just wasn't clear if that meant they were covering the western portion of the War in the North.
Sometimes the models can be ready a long time in advance it seems. I think the 2013 Dwarf kits for Fantasy were stamped with 2009 and there'd been rumours/pictures floating around for years before release. Dragon Acolytes/Dain/Brand/Dale Knights releasing throughout 2021 makes me wonder if there's going to be a decent chunk of releases coming with DotNorth though.
I'm a bit surprised they haven't redone the Necromancer model. Being the duel combination of both metal/resin and a not fabulous sculpt seems like it'd be a prime candidate for a new swanky plastic kit. Not to mention it's yaknow.... The Big Bad (albeit in disguise.)
Snrub wrote: I'm a bit surprised they haven't redone the Necromancer model. Being the duel combination of both metal/resin and a not fabulous sculpt seems like it'd be a prime candidate for a new swanky plastic kit. Not to mention it's yaknow.... The Big Bad (albeit in disguise.)
The film just depicts him as he appears in the 'Last Alliance' scene of Fellowship I think, so they might not have been allowed to make a new model that wasn't just... that.
One thing about Amon Hen, though, is that it looks a bit too plain for a resin scenery kit that will - most certainly - be sold for a premium++ price. It does look very good already, but should've been a bit more intricate. Besides that, beautiful release.
Finally some great news. Hoped for a imminent release for Defence of the North but that's OK, I am painting my new Dale Knights and I think they are fantastic (really love Dale style and still hope for cavalry).
More models will come as stated in the article so I hope my dreams come true.
I thought the unnamed mounted Ringwraith 3 pack was also made available again recently but can’t see any sign of it now. Was around same time that they added the metal mounted Witch King MTO as the complaint was that you ended up with a spare mounted Ringwraith (3 x 3 unnamed + mounted WK).
Edit - Ignore me. They were renamed to Black Riders when returned to range in January.
Any other Australian waiting on theses might want to see if theirs is on its way.
Aeneades wrote: Was around same time that they added the metal mounted Witch King MTO as the complaint was that you ended up with a spare mounted Ringwraith (3 x 3 unnamed + mounted WK).
It would have been nice if they'd done a 9 riders pack with the Witch-king. But I genuinely shudder to think of the price they'd have charged... And somewhat understandable now why they didn't now that they've teased the new plastic Witch-king.
The supplement also contains four new Legendary Legions for matched play enthusiasts, each of which focuses on the forces featured within it.
All of these Legendary Legions have a very unique playstyle. For example, the Rangers of Mirkwood Legendary Legion allows players to field a full army of Mirkwood Rangers who can duck and dodge behind trees to avoid incoming attacks.
Finally, I couldn't wait until Middle-earth was blessed with illegible transparent dice at long last. At least they still use pips for numbers, and no weird symbols like the dreaded Idoneth dice.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I want to see how modular this terrain is...
Same. It looks good, but except for the statue and the stick-on stairs, I'm not particularly convinced its very modular at all.
There are too many things that you can't just swap and expect them to line up.
I'd believe it if the the 'variety of ways' is a low number like 2 or 3, though.
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Also, hate the transparent dice. The top one in the middle is just hateful- I should never be able to see the number on the other side of the die through the opposite face.
The dice thing is a lot less of a problem in MESBG compared to 40k or AoS in that you aren't trying to read like 30 dice at a glance. The most you'll probably be rolling at once will be a half dozen or so except in pretty rare circumstances. I actually really like the new dice sets; probably not enough to actually buy them though.
Mrs. GG and at like the new Sauron dice and love the new Witch-King dice but yeah, they may be challenging to read. We will have to get them to see for ourselves in person.
Looking forward to getting that new plastic Witch King!
And I'll probably pick up the matching dice. The Dol Guldur dice may be tougher to read, but the smoky green-black Angmar dice should work with the silver pips.
And now that the Fall of the Necromancer is coming out, hopefully we'll start seeing more previews for the War in the North book.
I like everything I see here. The Witch King is gorgeous even though not perfectly proportionate in my opinion. Ruins are fantastic and the dice are wonderful - I like to collect dice.
Really hope new rules are good too! I feel confident in Middle-earth Team.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I want to see how modular this terrain is...
Same. It looks good, but except for the statue and the stick-on stairs, I'm not particularly convinced its very modular at all.
There are too many things that you can't just swap and expect them to line up.
I'd believe it if the the 'variety of ways' is a low number like 2 or 3, though.
Ray Dranfield is the designer, if that helps.
His resume includes the Rohan kits, Sector Imperialis, Dominion of Sigmar, etc. Great fella to follow on twitter, as he posts lots of info on how to get the most out of his kits.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I want to see how modular this terrain is...
Same. It looks good, but except for the statue and the stick-on stairs, I'm not particularly convinced its very modular at all.
There are too many things that you can't just swap and expect them to line up.
I'd believe it if the the 'variety of ways' is a low number like 2 or 3, though.
Ray Dranfield is the designer, if that helps.
His resume includes the Rohan kits, Sector Imperialis, Dominion of Sigmar, etc. Great fella to follow on twitter, as he posts lots of info on how to get the most out of his kits.
The Rohan kits are incredible and versatile. I have purchased many, many of these sets. Look like I'll be buying a lot of the Dol Guldur kits if they are designed by the same guy.
The kit is completely modular and is made up of wall panels connected by columns so it can extend as far as you want. It's very short on floors but they can be scratch built easily enough.
It looks like you get 1 of the "decor" sprue and 2 of the wall sprue 1 of each wouldn't make up the 136 parts listed where as 1 of A and 2 of B is 136 parts.
I'll be picking some up for AoS as they will work well with Chaos or Destruction style set ups.
I really like the metal banding on the walls. And the no-faced hooded statue. Glad to see Ray continued the Sector Imperialis design ethos with these, rather than the newer stuff.
I do wonder about the scale though. LOTR is a little big smaller than 40k/AoS.
I do wonder about the scale though. LOTR is a little big smaller than 40k/AoS.
If they scale like the Ruins of Osgiliath they'll be fine for AoS and there's nothing very scale defining on them even the skulls are separate so just swap or mix them with the AoS skulls. Laketown and Rohan houses on the other hand yeah they don't scale well. I've ordered 3 so I'll take my chances
Zorpazorp got the 12 of the kits - I don't think 3 is going to be enough now!
Johanxp wrote: Those kits are easy to find at 25% discount. I'll buy some to make a specific board after my Osgiliath and Rohan tables!
Yeah? I used to shop at Dark Sphere but they don't ship outside the UK post brexit. If you can you point me towards an alternative 25%-discounter I would be most grateful! I've found that many stores don't carry as much LOTR stuff as they do 40k/AoS.
Johanxp wrote: Those kits are easy to find at 25% discount. I'll buy some to make a specific board after my Osgiliath and Rohan tables!
Yeah? I used to shop at Dark Sphere but they don't ship outside the UK post brexit. If you can you point me towards an alternative 25%-discounter I would be most grateful! I've found that many stores don't carry as much LOTR stuff as they do 40k/AoS.
And be sure to post pics of those boards!
Well I am used to buy stuff in 2 Well known Italian eshop called Ars Manufactorea and Maremma Wargames. But I don't know if they ship outside Italy. And please consider that Italian prices are usually higher than English ones...
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: For anyone interested in the modularity of the kits, here's what someone is making with 5. Not mine obviously.
That's the Zorpazorp one in the video above he got 12 kits initially and then asked for more floor tiles so there's a lot more than 5 kits in the finished piece - there's 2 layers so some of the kits are hidden under the removeable floor,
I was quite keen on the set, but it feels so pricy for how much you get. Only a single staircase a box hurts all my ideas.
So I not sure if I want to commit or not even with a discount.
Apple fox wrote: I was quite keen on the set, but it feels so pricy for how much you get. Only a single staircase a box hurts all my ideas.
So I not sure if I want to commit or not even with a discount.
With 3d printing these days there are so many options outside foGW for appropriate scenery too.
Wow. Those White Council sculpts are appalling. Not a good face among them.
Will be picking up Kardûsh and the Ringwraiths though. Always confused me as to why they only made 3 twilight wraiths rather then the 5 that were at Weathertop.
Have to disagree about the council. I have them already and they're probably the most standout models of the characters made. Gandalf and Saurman in particular.
I gotta ask. What do people like about the White Council minis? What's the attraction?
I understand the the paintjobs aren't doing the models themselves any favours, but for me at least, Gandalf's the only decent looking one. Elrond with his club fist looks like Harry Goatleaf in elves clothes. Saruman (who also has a messed up hand) has just smelt the nasty fart ever. And Galadriel appears to have just been rejected from an ABBA casting call.
None of them actually look like who they're supposed to be. Like the faces are just wrong.
Snrub wrote: I gotta ask. What do people like about the White Council minis? What's the attraction?
I understand the the paintjobs aren't doing the models themselves any favours, but for me at least, Gandalf's the only decent looking one. Elrond with his club fist looks like Harry Goatleaf in elves clothes. Saruman (who also has a messed up hand) has just smelt the nasty fart ever. And Galadriel appears to have just been rejected from an ABBA casting call.
None of them actually look like who they're supposed to be. Like the faces are just wrong.
Also Saruman has a strange cut in the Head / Beard because the Head is seperate and has the cut trough he Beard.
Snrub wrote: I gotta ask. What do people like about the White Council minis? What's the attraction?
I understand the the paintjobs aren't doing the models themselves any favours, but for me at least, Gandalf's the only decent looking one. Elrond with his club fist looks like Harry Goatleaf in elves clothes. Saruman (who also has a messed up hand) has just smelt the nasty fart ever. And Galadriel appears to have just been rejected from an ABBA casting call.
None of them actually look like who they're supposed to be. Like the faces are just wrong.
They're just exceptionally nice models in hand. Elrond is the weakest sculpt, but you really need to judge them unpainted and in hand to get a full view of how good they are.
I’ll probably skip the White Council and wait for Vanquishers to eventually hit MTO, so I think only the Twraiths as I was too broke last time they went up. Got Kurdash last time round, and I doubt Thranduil without a second sword would ever hit the table as the upgrade is too good.
Baragash wrote: I’ll probably skip the White Council and wait for Vanquishers to eventually hit MTO, so I think only the Twraiths as I was too broke last time they went up. Got Kurdash last time round, and I doubt Thranduil without a second sword would ever hit the table as the upgrade is too good.
Vanquishers is available now as part of the permanent line (was added a few weeks back).
Baragash wrote: I’ll probably skip the White Council and wait for Vanquishers to eventually hit MTO, so I think only the Twraiths as I was too broke last time they went up. Got Kurdash last time round, and I doubt Thranduil without a second sword would ever hit the table as the upgrade is too good.
Vanquishers is available now as part of the permanent line (was added a few weeks back).
) so I would have missed out on that initial run.
