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fnc821 wrote:yours looks good but i think the moter might be to big for the gun, you might want to try this but use some sort of dial or a resistor to control the speed.

I scrapped that motor because when you reduced the speed (i.e., with a resistor or potentiometer) it simply refused to spin. It wasn't strong enough to torque the SAG bit around without the full voltage, so I had to find another motor. I'm not going to be using gears because the more mechanical parts I include, the higher the chance it will break or fail, particularly when primed or painted.

Ahh well I just figured I would make a sugestion =P.

Love the ork, superbly converted and painted Mek. Good luck with that SAG I had to learn all about electrical junk when I was wiring tanks with LEDs

The mek is SOOOO COOOL great idea with seperate KFF and SAG good luck with that

Also im planning to build a Biker warboss for my squad of six nob bikers . I plan to use Gorbad ironclaw as a start and am thinking of scratch building a power claw with pointy fingers , your work is a big inspiration

I think you should go with the lego motor personally, even 120 rpm seems to fast to me, no a nice slow spin is perfectly fine and the humm it gives is the best part about that motor, Appropriate sound effects AND turning bits gets my vote! especially with how that humm sounds like a tesla coil charging, its totally appropriate.

Great work man. God emperor be praised.

The art and that model are wicked! Nice conversion.

Gorgeous duo!! I do think the green of the skin completely dominates the painting, but maybe that's a good thing in the Orky aesthetics.

Shattered Soul wrote:Great work man. God emperor be praised.

Did you just praise the God-Emperor over Ork technology?


Stay right where you are. The Inquisitor is on his way. He wants to.... ask you a few questions.



Eric

So here's a silly thing I need help with.

I've been digging through my Bitz box for useful Shokk Attack Gun parts for Booma. I've found a couple that I think are good from an assortment of different figures, but the problem I'm having right now is conceptualizing how to mash them all together into a transdimensional gun.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it before, but I want Booma's SAG to fire squigs, not grots. I figure it'd have about the same effect - grots and snotlings go mad in the warp and come out frenzied on the other side because of the things they saw. Squigs would come out frenzied, regardless of whether or not they understood anything they saw.

Anyway, to get back to the problem at hand, I'm basically not sure how to render Booma's SAG properly. I started doing scale drawings just to get a feel for what might be possible, and this is what came out:



This is just a very rough idea. I have a couple general criteria for what I think the gun requires (see below) but the finer details are not coming through when I imagine this thing, so there's a couple big blank areas on the gun and room for a ton of rearranging.

Here's a couple thoughts on the general design of what I think I might like in the final product:

I figure a Shokk Attack Gun would have to be bigger in order to fire something the mass of a squig through the warp, so I was going to make it extra-large compared to the standard shoulder-mounted job.

I also figure that despite being extra-large, big meks are still able to move about on the board with the SAG (though it's a terrible idea, since it's a heavy weapon and can't shoot on the move). Because of that, I figured something that looked tripod-mounted or planted into the ground wouldn't make sense - rather, something on wheels that could be relocated if necessary made a lot more sense. I have very suitable wheel bits that I was saving, and this seems like a good project to use them on.

I want the squigs to be 'lured' into the machine somehow. The initial idea I had was just to have grots feeding squigs into the machine, but then I thought about it some more and realized grots would have a heck of a time trying to force a chomping, angry squig into a hole. Rather, I imagine something a bit more comical - like a grot standing atop the machine with a piece of meat on a stick dangling over the funnel into the machine, trying to get a squig to jump at it and over the opening and get sucked in. Alternatively, it could just be a grot taunting a squig from across a big funnel built into the side of the machine, trying to get it to run across the path of the opening and get hosed up into the machine. Coincidentally, if a grot or two gets sucked in and fired, I don't think they'd be missed.

One of my buddies suggested an accordion-ish bit on the SAG for comic effect (like the squig is getting compressed for firing), hence it's presence on the gun (the angular looking thing right behind the motor). I actually have a bit that would work fairly well for it.

Booma has to fit on the base with it. I have a roughly 60mm round base I'm going to try and cram this all into, and booma's got a 25mm round footprint on that, meaning the machine has to be off on one side. The spinny bits can overhang the edge of the base, but the rest of it should probably be on there.

Now, with all that said... I'm a little stuck, and I need help through the creative process here. The bits with red arrows pointing to them are all ones I have actual parts for already - the SAG spinny bit, the motor, the accordion looking thing, the two wheels and the base. I would prefer to use these if at all possible to make my life easier, though I'm open to pretty much any ideas - I just need help figuring out the form of this thing, because when I picture it in my mind's eye I can't quite pin down a proper look for it yet. Help me with my designer's block, guys?

Heh. What about instead of having a grot dangling a piece of meat on a stick, having a grot dangling another grot from a fishing pole over the funnel?

Death By Monkeys wrote:Heh. What about instead of having a grot dangling a piece of meat on a stick, having a grot dangling another grot from a fishing pole over the funnel?

I was thinking similarly. It seems more appropriate.

So, as of right now, your SAG looks a bit like a choo-choo train.
I don't think you really want that.

Some changes I'd make...

Shorten it.
Remove a rear wheel to make it 3 wheels.
Remove "chimney" from rear & put it on the side of the SAG.
Grot is dangled over side. Squig lunges at grot (who is HOPEFULLY removed fast enough) and squig is sucked into SAG.

I'll mess around with your drawing & see if I can manage to upload it from work.

Eric

Okay... So, I fiddled around with your image and came up with the picture below.
Please, forgive the rudimuntary nature of my circle. MS Paint is all I hava available here.



I hope the idea comes across properly.

Part of the benefit of having the "chimney" on the side is that you don't have to have the squigs jumping high up into the stack on top. it's easier to get them into it when it's at their own level.

Eric

Yeah, the side-chimney makes a lot more sense. What about putting it on a small set of treads - have the chimney in the back, maybe?

Here's a shot of the parts I had in mind.



Booma stands off to one side next to the SAG gun.

I do sort've like a wheelbarrow-ish concept with only two wheels, though, the more I think about it. It'd make the gun lean up a bit at an angle. I suppose the wheelbarrow section in the back could double as a ramp for squigs to go up.

I do sort've like a wheelbarrow-ish concept with only two wheels, though, the more I think about it. It'd make the gun lean up a bit at an angle. I suppose the wheelbarrow section in the back could double as a ramp for squigs to go up.

Are you intending on modelling a squig going into the SAG? That was the presumption I made with my suggestion (the wheel being in the rear center gives about an extra quarter to half inch to back Booma into to make more room).

Having a sort of ramp in the back will really inhibit the amount of room you have to work with for adding that "detail."

Eric