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I think it's a great idea and I think it would be cool but at the same time there are so many movies that have been screwed by doing this. ESPECIALLY by Uwe Boll. And know him - he'd be the main one trying to do it!

BASTARD!

@werewolfhunter, are you taking the piss or what?

Well, I for one would love to see it. It would be like the Super Mario Bros movie, and like Get Smart, in that I would love it. Why? I have no expectations. I predict utter failure. I would go in expecting to see nothing resembling the story line I wanted. The last time I went to a movie expecting something akin to the story or setting upon which it was based was Wanted. After I managed to resist my brain's vigorous attempt to shut down my lungs and save myself the torment, I resolved to never, ever again have any expectations when I went to the movies, especially movies based on any kind of anything I already like. I was already headed down that road, but things like Highlander: The Source and Wanted pushed me over the edge.

Terminator 4? Loved it, unconditionally. My plan is already working, you see. No matter what I get, if it has even a single redeeming feature (like that 'dread naught' pun mentioned earlier ) then I will have gotten far more than I thought that I would. The secret to getting what you want out of movies is to want nothing.

Or, to reference an old obscure play, to live in your own Philadelphia.

Lol, jimsolo - are you sure you're not British?

We expect disappointment, that way we're never disappointed..

Given the fact that the "hollywood movie machine" seems to be going in every direction looking for film ideas,including re-hashing loads of old T.V shows,and making remakes of remakes ad-nauseum,it honestly wouldn't suprise me to see a 40k film within the next 5 years.
The point is,that once 40k is in the hands of "big budget film makers",I honestly don't think many 40k (games) fans will be happy with the end results.
Sure 40k has more than enough BANG! BOOM! BAM! to satisfy your average "Bay is a GOD!!" movie goer,however,IMO,the overall concept of 40k would just not be palatable to most film viewers (they wouldn't get it),thus it would need to be regulated in to a "Bad guys vs Good guys" film.
Ok,of course that's doable,plenty of "bad guys" in the 40k galaxy (in fact by modern standards everyone in 40k is a bad guy),but let's just take Orkz as "bad guys" and IG as "good guys" and for fluffs sake,say hollywood decides to make a film about the 3rd war on Armegedon (just so most of the main races can get a bit of screen time).
So hypotheticly a film about Armegedon is done,I will bet my life that after it's release almost every individule who clamored for a 40k film will rip it apart,especialy after the "love story" between a Guardsman and his female commisar developes,because,lets face it ,you can't have a big budget hollywood film with out a little romance,or when a Jar Jar or Ewoks like race is introduced to "cut down on the GrimDark and make the film more friendly".
Now,I myself,like many would love to see a well made,accurate film depiction of the 40k galaxy splashed across the big screen,I just have a bad feeling that when it does finaly appear,we will all be very let down.

The funniest point being made above is that it would cost too much money.

IF you have seen District 9 and liked it, I loved it, then you know a great movie made for a mere 30 million USD (might have been 50 mill). A good creative director and great script does not require 180 or 200 mill to make.

As long as they don't screw it up and GW legal team do their thing by getting McDonalds to sod off with the merchandise then I would be ok, as long as it was a decent film and stuck to the fluff. I can see me and my 40k playing friend in the cinema whining about how much it sucks in a nerd rage with people looking at us in a weird way O_o

It depends, I certainly wouldn't want them to give Warhammer a bad name.

As long as Uwe Boll**ks don't direct it then i'll be sure happy to watch a film set around Marines vs Orks... They cant script Marines vs Tyranids because that's to much a likeness to the Aliens Franchise!!

So Peter Jackson directing a futuristic Lord of the Rings style Marines vs Ork film...

Could be worth the £8 cinema ticket...

@albatross - piss is slang for drunk, correct? if so no just poking a fun, see below.

Just wanted to point out that every one could be happy (well most every one), that is us the fans, the movie company, and even the ones that know nothing about 40k. There are many movies that tell the sorry as the movie goes along, district 9 is one (great great movie - thing its the best movie I've seen this year). It's can also "retell" some things that have been done before without being to over the top.

I would really like to see an imperial guard movie fighting most of the movie, look at saving private ryan. Tells the story but still mostly fighting. Make it 2 (or 3 would be better) movies, at the end the space marines save the day. Those that didn't know that the second part would be out the following year would be told by us the die hard fans (I really have to tell some one every time that I saw each, of the first two, lord of the rings that the next movie was coming out, so it wouldn't be that much different).

any way, it could work if you get the correct people to work on it.

@werewolfhunter - nah, mate... not drunk, 'taking the piss' is slang for poking fun.

I was bloody right, too!

Brightdarkness wrote:I say leave my 40k alone, they would screw it up beyond recognition.

I am so tempted to agree but I would still love to see a movie. I wouldn't mind if some of the ridiculous accents, terminologies and such that are promulgated by the books and codices were watered down so the movie was more palatable for a wide viewing audience. I think as long as it was done well and with a proper budget I would enjoy it even if there was a departure from or artistic license taken on the fluff.

As long as it is NOT done like any of the X-Men or Alien v. Pred. movies, i think it could be alright haha


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FITZZ wrote: Given the fact that the "hollywood movie machine" seems to be going in every direction looking for film ideas,including re-hashing loads of old T.V shows,and making remakes of remakes ad-nauseum,it honestly wouldn't suprise me to see a 40k film within the next 5 years.
The point is,that once 40k is in the hands of "big budget film makers",I honestly don't think many 40k (games) fans will be happy with the end results.
Sure 40k has more than enough BANG! BOOM! BAM! to satisfy your average "Bay is a GOD!!" movie goer,however,IMO,the overall concept of 40k would just not be palatable to most film viewers (they wouldn't get it),thus it would need to be regulated in to a "Bad guys vs Good guys" film.
Ok,of course that's doable,plenty of "bad guys" in the 40k galaxy (in fact by modern standards everyone in 40k is a bad guy),but let's just take Orkz as "bad guys" and IG as "good guys" and for fluffs sake,say hollywood decides to make a film about the 3rd war on Armegedon (just so most of the main races can get a bit of screen time).
So hypotheticly a film about Armegedon is done,I will bet my life that after it's release almost every individule who clamored for a 40k film will rip it apart,especialy after the "love story" between a Guardsman and his female commisar developes,because,lets face it ,you can't have a big budget hollywood film with out a little romance,or when a Jar Jar or Ewoks like race is introduced to "cut down on the GrimDark and make the film more friendly".
Now,I myself,like many would love to see a well made,accurate film depiction of the 40k galaxy splashed across the big screen,I just have a bad feeling that when it does finaly appear,we will all be very let down.

I agree with this entire post.

"The Chronicles of Riddick" however provides an optimistic ray of hope for a 40K film. It was surprisingly good from a general viewpoint of the target demographic.

The opening CG animation in Dawn Of War II was AMAZING. That marine vs eldar battle kicked so much ass. When I saw it I wished that they would someday do a CG movie. That's the only way to go, IMHO. If GW hired a bunch of CG animators and had them do a mini series or something then that woud probably be a cost effective way to do it.

Hopefully, it'll be like the cut scenes in Epic: Final Liberation. Awesome.

It will always have potential, but they would probably screw it up like Transformers.

They would need to steer clear of the obviously fantasy races i.e. no Orks.

Eldar would need to keep their helmets on so we didn't see the pointy ears and have to put up with cries of "Space Elves" or "Vulcan rip off" (actually Eldar are a Vulcan rip off).

Anyway, I would do it from the POV of Imperial Guard, with occasional Space Marine appearances to highlight the differences between humans and Astartes.

I've said it once and I'll say it again...

Not one or even two film studios can afford it ATM.

radiohazard wrote:I've said it once and I'll say it again...

Not one or even two film studios can afford it ATM.

Ummm why? The box office is doing really well as it always does during periods of economic decline.

Are you saying this because you believe a 40K movie is so grand that it needs an unprecedented budget to be done correctly?

I'm not trying to be a d!ck, i just don't understand

Deuce11 wrote:

radiohazard wrote:I've said it once and I'll say it again...

Not one or even two film studios can afford it ATM.

Ummm why? The box office is doing really well as it always does during periods of economic decline.

Are you saying this because you believe a 40K movie is so grand that it needs an unprecedented budget to be done correctly?

I'm not trying to be a d!ck, i just don't understand

That's ok.

It's a bit of both really.

Hollywood may be doing well at the box office, but production costs have sky-rocketed and thus Hollywood is looking for cheaper movies that will make tons more money than what it cost to make.
I work as a script writer and I've met with some high ups in film and asked their opinions on a 40K film. Suprisingly, Hollywood is fully aware of the beast known as 40K and they are in unanimous in there opinion that the film will cost too much. It's just too big a project ATM in these difficult times.

I have always thought that Abbnet's book Xenos would be a perfect basis for a 40k movie adaptation. The story is intrinsically 40K, but written in a style that makes it accessible to to others. You could essentially replace all the 40K names and locations with random phrases and have the same story set in a different Science Fiction universe. This keeps people who are not deeply immersed in the 40K mythos interested making it accessible to those who no nothing about 40K. While a deep level of detail in the settings and costumes could add that GRIM DARK flair to the movie to keep the die hard fans interested. Xenos' story also already includes all the elements that Hollywood tries to cram into movies these days anyways. A love interest (Bequin), a morally grey hero (Gregor), and a commentary on society (lets face it, the 40K universe is so vast it is easy to place the characters somewhere they could encounter problems analogous to modern issues), and a setup for a trilogy! (which Hollywood has a massive hard on for these days!). Plus you have minor cameo appearances by several other races in the 40K universe and a knock down drag out fight between marines at the end, thereby satisfying the Spehss Mehrines Hurrr! Crowd. If the movie were done in a style similar to the Scifi (yes I know its now ScyFy, but thats stupid) series Sanctuary with mostly green screens coupled with live action actors with detailed costumes. You could have a pretty faithful representation of the universe for compairativly cheap production costs that would appeal to a broad spectrum of people. If production costs were kept down by only casting unknowns overall costs could probably be less than 30 Million American.

People probably had the same conversations when they turned Frank Herberts Dune into games and then a movie also!

I do re-call that Dune was filmed similar to the conditions Kroeger describes... That being that the only high cost was the Actors/Actresses themselves as the film itself was filmed in front of a giant blue screen then computers projected computer generated still images into the backgrounds!

Easy first movie= "Girls Gone Wild: Sisters of Battle"

When the armor comes off, things get wild.

It would probably be a good idea, make a bunch of money.

Then critics would tear it apart, and then noone would see it after the 3rd week, and it wouldn't make back it's investment.

medd wrote:They should only do it if the movie contents relate specifically to actually 40k fluff.
It would also be much appreciated if the movie isn't focused COMPLETELY around SPACE MARINES, who get waaaaaay too much attention as is!!!
/endrant

My friend expressed my sentiments exactly!

They should do a follow up of the Damocles crusade with Farsight going around to conquering the worlds on the gulf

i think sum 1 from gw should make a moovie they have enough money

I think they shouldmake the fiml, but at the same time, i think they should be trying to capture the grit, nastyness and gore of the battles, not the "we are heros" kind of stuff.

I agree with the whole low budget, good story

read the book Death World, it's about a small squad of catatchans, a commissar and a cadian-esque guy who is writing propaganda for his regiment (I think, I haven't read it for a while) and they're trying to assassinate the Ork warboss (won't say any more in case some of you guys haven't read it)

this would only require a small number of actors, not many special effects (except lasgun fire and explosions ), and the story line's pretty good too

However, if a film company with a large budget asked me which Black Library novel they should make a film of, I'd have to go with the Horus Heresy (obviously not all in one film, maybe four or five long ones - don't want to miss out on any of that glorious fluff )

... and I expect some form of reward from the Black Library for all of this advertising

Big company with a big budget? No. They would have to dilute the atmosphere in order to broaden the target audience to recover their costs. But not this B- crap where GW keeps trying to micromanage everything either. If it's going to happen, it would have to be something more in the middle. If someone were to look at me and say "make it happen", and I could cherry-pick, I would get Ridley Scott to produce, Rupert Sanders to direct (with Scott assisting since it would be Sanders' first feature length), Akiva Goldsman to do the screenplay (does a great job of turning novels and comics into something that looks good on film), Soundtrack by Human M&DI (just tell them the mood you want for any given scene and get out of the way) and filmed in Hungary or the Czech Republic (incredible scenery for "gritty" shots and excellent stuntmen/extras (heck, in Hungary, you can rent soldiers from the army on the cheap)). Let Ridley decide who gets the CGI/SE and post-production (probably the standard package at the end of must movies, although Relic/THQ should probably be in there somewhere since they have the material to jumpstart the CGI). Live action, with CGI enhancement for audience empathy, and you would probably want to avoid any "big-name" performers, as it can break the fourth wall.

Plot-wise, you'd almost have to do something with a large battle, or at least elements of one, to satisfy the rabid warmongers among us. It would also pull in a non-hobby audience who came to see the big explosions. IG would probably make the best protagonist, as the audience would be able to readily empathize with the characters. You could do a classic "war from one soldiers eyes", it's usually a winning formula, although it might be interesting to see it told from the POV of a strangely (for 40k) compassionate commander (eg: Xarius in Crimson Tears). The hardest part would be choosing the antagonist. 'Nids will be labeled an Aliens/Starship Troopers rip-off, and The Tau would end up coming off as the "good guys". Eldar are a bit... disconnected and Orks would seem too much like LotR in space to most (non-fan) viewers. I think a good option might be something Chaos. Not the Daemon aspect, too "genre-clashing" for most people, but cultists for the most part, then a culmination involving the CSM. Also gives you a natural intro to bring in the LSM in the sequel. I'd stay away from Cadia, too much is canonically nailed down (not that GW has ever been above a little retcon). Maybe a brief mention of it as said commander gets orders to send most of his command to help the fight there, then later (cause that's the way it happens in the movies) ends up defending his post with a shorthanded regiment as Chaos tries a flanking maneuver on a galactic scale.

And if anyone has a conversation in front of "The Throne", just to slide in a cameo for the emperor, I'll personally throw my entire concession allotment at the screen.

Lucifer2583 wrote:

Could be worth the £8 cinema ticket...

Woah....what Cinema do you go 2? Vue is only 5.50. The ultramarines movie is gonna be str8 2 dvd which is a shame. Also, if everyone did Warhammer, I probably would stop...I would be too much hassle at the GW's...not that anyone would seeing as any big movie would be crazaay

Flashman wrote:It will always have potential, but they would probably screw it up like Transformers.

Michael Bay?

Try Uwe Boll!