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2013/10/17 20:21:30
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
lord_blackfang wrote: By this logic, $40 for one pre-painted 28mm Predator and Arnie would be cheap, as it is a full game
If it comes with enough terrain to fill up a 6x4 table with dense jungle and multiple traps, then sure $40 would be cheap. That's what it means to be a full game with a ground-based skirmish.
Try selling that to all the guys dressed up like Colonial Marines at conventions. They'll pay hundreds for armor and pulse rifles, but I doubt they'll find $40 for two minis and a bunch of dumpster filling.
judgedoug wrote: Alien and Aliens are widely regarded as two of the best films in their genres (horror, and action, respectively).
Everyone recognizes a Geiger Alien. Like, everyone.
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Loving the marine pics show so far
I see many people buying up Preds and Ailens... and here's me wanting all my marines with pulse rifles... Lets hope I can recreate my best AvP Online match where everyone was a lvl 24 -43 pred and there was me as a marine, who came top of the leader board on deathmatch at the end of the match, all because I switched off my flashlight
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judgedoug wrote: Alien and Aliens are widely regarded as two of the best films in their genres (horror, and action, respectively).
Everyone recognizes a Geiger Alien. Like, everyone.
Stan Winston and James Cameron designed the Queen. And Cameron and Syd Mead designed pretty much all the Colonial Marine stuff.
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2013/10/17 21:51:48
Subject: Re:A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
judgedoug wrote: Stan Winston and James Cameron designed the Queen. And Cameron and Syd Mead designed pretty much all the Colonial Marine stuff.
But as a variant of the Giger Alien. And they didn't design all the aliens, facehuggers and alien eggs. Nor were the new designs by Giger for the movie Alien 3 credited to Giger. Nor anything in the movie Alien resurrection. And what would the Alien movies be without Giger's design?
I really hope one of the stipulations of getting the license is that they have to hire someone competent to create the webpage.. No offence to Prodos but warzonegame.com is a terrible mess.
2013/10/18 15:13:34
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
Bull0 wrote: Interesting fact, shamelessly off-topic: Bill Paxton is the only actor to have been killed by an alien, a predator AND a terminator.
Actually there is one other actor! Will wait and see if anyone gets it
Lance Henriksen!
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2013/10/18 15:18:43
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
Ah gotcha. Yes, I am sincerely hoping they are very cheap as well (because then I'll buy more!! and moree!!!! a whole company of USCM?! why not?! a regiment, battalion, division!!!), and the preview shots are showing the quality. If Prodos can pull a good economy of scale situation here and be able to manufacture a ton of these at a cheap cost, I can't imagine any sci fi fan not pledging at least a few bucks for some cool figs (especially if Prodos does a low level cheap entry that has an alien, a predator and a colonial marine, as a set, maybe each on a special base that matches - hive, jungle, LV-426 flooring).
If this product can appeal to the average Aliens fan, it could be worth millions. I really like the idea of a "sampler set" that gets the figures into lots of hands for cheap. Hell, market it right, and you can convince many fans that they never have to use the thimble again in monopoly, or basic chess sets, or ...Risk tokens. Make the rules free, too, and many people with a sampler pack (that they bought because, y'know, Aliens) might try their hand at it just to try out...
Now, that might seem a bit too ambitious, but even trying to broaden the appeal like that will do Prodos a lot better than making Infinity with licensed models.
I actually have no worries about it being a success... I'm worried that it'll be too big of a success for a smallish company like Prodos to handle. If they make 5 million bucks there's no way they'll be hand-casting 5 million models. Welcome to partnership! Howsabout Wargames Factory? They're expanding exponenentially, now that they're handling Kingdom Death (and a half dozen other companies) and have now a proven high quality and detail level.
Really impressed by that detail. Looks like someone was studying screen grabs of the Smart Gun.
Prodos is in the UK, yes? Well there's the whole chapter of United Kingdom Colonial Marines re-enactors that they could model some screen-used or screen-accurate props from.
judgedoug wrote: Stan Winston and James Cameron designed the Queen. And Cameron and Syd Mead designed pretty much all the Colonial Marine stuff.
But as a variant of the Giger Alien. And they didn't design all the aliens, facehuggers and alien eggs. Nor were the new designs by Giger for the movie Alien 3 credited to Giger. Nor anything in the movie Alien resurrection. And what would the Alien movies be without Giger's design?
Right... I don't disagree with you. My initial post said that everyone recognizes the Giger Alien. You said he didn't design the Queen, so I added who did.
But the point is that the Giger Alien is one of the most iconic monsters in film, ever.
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2013/10/18 16:32:51
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
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2013/10/20 08:07:45
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
My Aliens Technical Manual seems to be MIA (moving twice in the last 9 months will do that), but a little google and some quick napkin math indicate the Dropship would be around 16 inches long.
I'm not terribly familiar with Warhammer, but a cursory googling indicates that this would be comparable to some pretty hefty models. It's only an assumption, but based on the novels, movies and comics I've read, it feels more like a skirmish level game rather than one of larger warfare, which generally means a smaller combat area.
Basically, I could see some form of outline 'terrain' piece for the APC, but the dropship would... a hell of a thing.
2013/10/20 18:20:42
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
Forar wrote: At 28mm scale, both would be... pretty big.
My Aliens Technical Manual seems to be MIA (moving twice in the last 9 months will do that), but a little google and some quick napkin math indicate the Dropship would be around 16 inches long.
I'm not terribly familiar with Warhammer, but a cursory googling indicates that this would be comparable to some pretty hefty models. It's only an assumption, but based on the novels, movies and comics I've read, it feels more like a skirmish level game rather than one of larger warfare, which generally means a smaller combat area.
Basically, I could see some form of outline 'terrain' piece for the APC, but the dropship would... a hell of a thing.
There's already a couple of companies making really nice versions of the alien's APC
There are a couple other companies doing similar models on a smaller and sporadically avialble scale.
You're right about the dropship though. There was a model kit avaialble in the past, but IIRC it was 1/72 and still quite large. However, if there is significant interest (and there might well be for this property) I wouldn't be surprised if a dropship made an appeance. Heck, the Grizzly (albeit a smaller version) made it into the Warzone KS.
Hmmm how easy/hard is it to get the Khurasan stuff in the UK anyway? Had my eye on that APC for awhile, just import always seemed like too much hassle for a single kit.
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2013/10/20 18:57:15
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
doc1234 wrote: Hmmm how easy/hard is it to get the Khurasan stuff in the UK anyway? Had my eye on that APC for awhile, just import always seemed like too much hassle for a single kit.
They'll ship anywhere if they have it in stock. I've bought alot of stuff from the UK without any hassle. I'm not sure how much more difficult it would be going the opposite way.
the Bam Bam models M577 APC is more accurate than the Khurusan models one.
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