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No further info, the pic was simply titled "Soon on Kickstarter"

Oh.

Thanks anyway

Don't we have a dec 2013 release confirmed as well though?

So this is going to be a quick turnaround if both KS and Dec release are true!

Shame it's on kickstarter as I'd prefer to pick it up from a LGS so i can take a closer look first

I'll probably back it though as I'm such as fan of Aliens anyway. I hope they do it justice and will be able to get it into real shops eventually. I'm surprised not to see Warzone going into any shops yet as I overheard at the colours show one of the distributors wanted to stock it and put it into LGS across the country. Hopefully it'll all work out eventually and we can see it at the LGS / clubs.

Looking forward to getting the Marines and Aliens done along with a suitable "colony" game-board as that's something I've always fancied doing but never had the justification ...now I might just get round to it

 SoulDrinker wrote:
Shame it's on kickstarter as I'd prefer to pick it up from a LGS so i can take a closer look first

I'll probably back it though as I'm such as fan of Aliens anyway. I hope they do it justice and will be able to get it into real shops eventually. I'm surprised not to see Warzone going into any shops yet as I overheard at the colours show one of the distributors wanted to stock it and put it into LGS across the country. Hopefully it'll all work out eventually and we can see it at the LGS / clubs.

Looking forward to getting the Marines and Aliens done along with a suitable "colony" game-board as that's something I've always fancied doing but never had the justification ...now I might just get round to it

I'm not too surprised about them not being in stores with warzone. My lgs closest to me hates kickstarters. They don't carry most of the KS games, unless its a ks that had a Retailer special. Another local store has gotten the bones KS, and has dreadball, but has skipped everything else.

I understand he logic of the KS, but it really does take cash out of the lgs hands. Can't say I blame the lgs for not supporting games that don't return the favor.

My FLGS store owners in the area grumble about Kickstarters but will stock product from them if they make it into the distribution pipeline.

Since Prodos products won't be in the distribution pipeline in the USA I don't expect to see much of their stuff on retailer shelves if at all.

Shame it's a kickstarter though I was hoping this was ready to go.

 azreal13 wrote:
Don't we have a dec 2013 release confirmed as well though?

So this is going to be a quick turnaround if both KS and Dec release are true!

It takes Amazon 2 weeks to provide full backer information and payment after completion of a kickstarter so I cannot see anyway they can get the product out this year. I suspect the December 2013 release date is for the kickstarter launching rather then the actual game.

You've got the KS cut to consider too (isn't it like 10%?). That's cash that's leaving the industry.

I think KS has a place in the general ecosystem, but it does seem to be becoming the de facto solution for products that don't at first glance seem to *need* it.

Guys lets not have the whole kick starter debate again as it seems to happen in almost every thread and has been answered more times then I can count. If stores want to carry this great almost unknown product they will and if not then they won't.

yeah,
I wonder if December is a good month for launching a KS?
During x-mas most people stretch their budget to the max, will they stretch that bit more to include a KS and back a project that delivers in 2014?

Panic...

Kindgom Death ran in through December and ended up being the most successful boardgame to date

(despite an 11 month estimated lead time which has since slipped)

so I don't think it will hurt them, people who want it will find the money (or ask friends/family to back it as an Xmas present):

Aliens (and Marines and Predators) are iconic and should have a similar pull to KD

(they will presumably be running in £ which will probably hurt them more than the time of the year)

Absolutely gutted !!!

I am still waiting for stuff from the last two kickstarters that I took part in, I am not willing to get involved with another one just yet, even if this stuff does look amazing.
Well, never mind, fingers crossed they will get a normal release eventually.

It is possible to let a KS project run for just 20 days. IF they'd start it this week, it could be over at the end of this month. IF they also have everything ready and use this primarely as a pre-order, they COULD be able to send stuff out in december.

They really should wait instead of doing the campaign in the middle of the xmas shopping season when people need money for gifts. If you can't launch a campaign by the end of October, you should wait till around February to get the best results, when people in the US start getting tax return money that they need to blow on stuff

If they launch it in December I probably won't be able to back it. Oh well :(

Concerning the Dec release rob_aldermann said the following on LAM Forum:
"Release means full announcement of contents and of the release date, with detailed pictures and prices.

I think some info got lost in translation. "

see: http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=59007.msg713640#msg713640


Hope that clears the incredible early release date up....

Ho-hum, now they tell us.

Wow, those Pred renders look awesome.

"Release" means what? That Prodos will tell us prices? That's not what release means in any other context. And now this is a KS?

Disappointing stuff all around.

This is still a great IP with some awesome minis, let us not get bogged down in the fact everything is not to everyone's personal liking with regard to launch!!

Can you make sure to add in Weyland mercs, I love the look of those guys.

 BrookM wrote:
feth, did not hope that this would be a KS, as that will mean it won't be out as soon as hoped, nor as soon found in my FLGS.



Also, that pic went with the KS announcement.

When I compare the xeno renders with these, they really don't stack up. These mins have a massive amount of detail which the xeno sculpts are lacking in. It's a real shame.

 azreal13 wrote:
let us not get bogged down in the fact everything is not to everyone's personal liking

Would you please can the thought police act? To put it politely, there have been some very mixed messages and it's reasonable to express concern/disappointment. if nothing else, I hope Prodos takes this as feedback regarding not screwing around with customer expectations. (It's a recurring theme with these smaller companies, especially in the crowd-funding context.) Furthermore, famous IP + small company + Kickstarter = lots of problems, most of which come down to overconfident little companies making promises that they cannot keep or, in the best cases, cannot keep on time. Having communications issues before the KS even begins does not build confidence.

No thought police here, just an attempt to try and gee people up and get them excited by the big picture, rather than get bogged down in whinging about the minutiae!

I apologise, I'll leave you to wallow in your negativity.

 Imposter101 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
feth, did not hope that this would be a KS, as that will mean it won't be out as soon as hoped, nor as soon found in my FLGS.



Also, that pic went with the KS announcement.

When I compare the xeno renders with these, they really don't stack up. These mins have a massive amount of detail which the xeno sculpts are lacking in. It's a real shame.

See that's perfectly fine by me though. I see it as the aliens are a horde army and don't need all the extra attention. If I want to personalize them, I can do that. The predators on the other hand need that extra detail as they are more of a character model. I don't know how the game is going to run if it's 1 predator vs. a bunch of marines or a bunch of aliens, or if it's a predator pack, either way I'd want my low model count army to look more customized than Drones. Give me a few different poses of the aliens, a couple various sculpts, and different "generations" and I'll be fine with them. I almost feel the same about the marines. Compared to the predators they are a horde army. Give us a few different poses of each weapon outfit, a couple female sculpts 2-3 and I'm Good.

Someone had previously mentioned about all the alien tails coming back over their heads like a scorpion. I was originally on the same page as them, but then realized that it's a good thing for the models. If the tails are going crazy everywhere it's hard to pack them tight on a board, much less to pack them safe in a case. This is one of those cases where rule of cool had to take a back seat to the functioning of the model.

I just hope that the game is good, as so far I am pleased with the models I've seen.

 azreal13 wrote:


This is still a great IP with some awesome minis, let us not get bogged down in the fact everything is not to everyone's personal liking with regard to launch!!

I suppose I have been after these for years, so waiting a little longer may not actually be so bad, if only these bastards had not got me so excited !

 azreal13 wrote:
I apologise, I'll leave you to wallow in your negativity.

First off, trolling and flame baiting are not allowed on this site. Second, I have been posting a lot about my excitement and positive remarks ITT so your generalization is false in addition to insulting. Third, it's not your job to tell people what to feel or how to post about this topic.

 Imposter101 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
feth, did not hope that this would be a KS, as that will mean it won't be out as soon as hoped, nor as soon found in my FLGS.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1441398_1433629433524040_981700918_n.jpg

Also, that pic went with the KS announcement.

When I compare the xeno renders with these, they really don't stack up. These mins have a massive amount of detail which the xeno sculpts are lacking in. It's a real shame.

They haven't done any beauty shots of the Aliens sculpts yet, so I wouldn't be sounding this particular alarm just yet. If you take the pictures from their convention posted a few pages ago and fuss with the levels in Photoshop, you will see details not shown in the unaltered photos. Not see them well, mind, but enough to know there is more there than we have had a peek at yet.

~Eric

 Theophony wrote:
Compared to the predators [marines] are a horde army.

There is a nice spectrum available in this IP. In Predators, for example, there was a 3:1 human to predator ratio (not counting predadogs).

 Manchu wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
I apologise, I'll leave you to wallow in your negativity.

First off, trolling and flame baiting are not allowed on this site. Second, I have been posting a lot about my excitement and positive remarks ITT so your generalization is false in addition to insulting. Third, it's not your job to tell people what to feel or how to post about this topic.

I was neither trolling or flame baiting. I have been reading this thread since the beginning, and it has constantly got sidetracked by people getting down, on what I felt, were fairly small and unimportant details.

I am curious how you found my "come on, this is still great, even if you didn't necessarily want a Kickstarter " toned post insulting?

Frankly, for a Mod, you've taken this very personally, very quickly, I'd expect better than this from a regular poster.

 azreal13 wrote:
Frankly, for a Mod, you've taken this very personally, very quickly, I'd expect better than this from a regular poster.

I have also read this thread from the beginning and I have seen you among others trivialize other posters' viewpoints as "getting sidetracked" etc. again and again. As a Mod, it's my role to tell you give it a rest.