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2013/11/07 18:59:18
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
BobtheInquisitor wrote: the strength of the Aliens brand is not appealing to a niche of superfans but in appealing to huge swaths of the population who might not even play tabletop games yet
I couldn't agree more. If anyone needs proof that this is the best approach, please see X-Wing.
I dunno, X-Wing is prepainted, which I hate and you also pay extra for the cheap Chinese paint jobs, which I also hate.
Manchu wrote: Hmm, so it turns out those French sculpts that showed up a while back were for this!
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I'm not cool with the fact that these are 30-33mm and on the "new" 30mm display bases. The Horrorclix aliens were too big for my taste (although now I'd kill to be able to get my hands on them again)
I also disagree with them making Warzone bigger. A LOT of guys had old Warzone collections, and the old box set sprues weren't great, but they were passable. They could have made a compatible line, focusing on what wasn't available in plastic (pretty muche evrything except those two unit types) and large models and vehicles.
God if they'd made these in 28mm form I'd of sold my kidneys to fund the Kickstarter.
paulson games wrote: However people who were thinking these would be suitable guard replacements are probably going to be unhappy as the scale looks to be significantly larger than GW. .
This. I don't care about "predator Orks" or some such nonsense, and I get that miniatures have moved up in scale, bit I'd still prefer 28-30mm, on 25mm bases.
Eilif wrote: This pic is still a bit off-putting Looks like they're looking to be at least 32mm (to the eye). That's not terrible, but with my sci-fi collection much more on the side of 28mm, that's a significant difference. I could still be persuaded by a great deal, but in general I like for my human figures to be of similar size.
This. D&D still uses 28-30 on 1-inch bases and grids, GW uses it, Infinity uses it, and Reaper's IMEF marines and Chronosciope figures split the difference.
alanmckenzie wrote: Has there been any clue as to the basic format of this game? Will it be a board game a la space hulk, a full on table top game like infinity, or somewhere between the two (dead zone-like)?
And has there been any mention of terrain/a board in the box?
Card terrain kills it for me. I'm in it for the models. That one guy that ran a "not-Aliens" MDF terrain looked great. I wish he'd remake it in Space Hulk scale, although I regret not buying in/
Grot 6 wrote: I'm in for this one. Are we going to start seeing different levels of the beast (Xenomorphs and their varients from the movies) and the different types of Preds (Predators and their different movies)
Seem to remember there was a RPG and I found this.
There was also the fan-made Aliens: Game Over expansion for AD&D, that could easily be converted to d20 Modern or d20 Future. It was a fan-made product, but so well-made, it won some web awards. The official site that hosted it is down, but you can find copes floating around.
Stormonu wrote: my wallet is going to hurt so much. I have the old 25MM aliens from '91, but I'm really enthused about getting them in 28 mm.
The only thing I wish is they didn't have all the aliens with their tail posed over their head to strike. My memory may be fuzzy, but I only remember the dog alien and queen using its tail like that. I'd rather if the tail just "followed along" rather that it being posed to strike like a scorpion's tail.
Like others have said, it's probably for basing and the basic alien did tail-attacks a lot in the Sega DS game.
Looking for the Empire spearmen from the Warhammer sixth edition box set (empire vs orcs) Must be unpainted and in good condition. Also looking for MIB Empire State Troops boxes.
Looking for Battle for Macragge and Black Reach Tactical squads, unpainted and unassembled.
2013/11/07 20:10:56
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Keep in mind the recessed area on a PP/Wyrd style 30mm base is 23mm (rims of those things take up 7mm of diameter on, I believe, the 30, 40 and 50mm bases equally), which is the same as on a 25mm beveled (a style in which the slightly beveled edge takes up 2mm of diameter total) base.
Therefore, rebasing 25mm beveled based models to 30mm lipped bases, and vice versa, is never really problematic (except for CB-style base extensions). only potential issue arises with fitting 40mm beveled on 40mm lipped (33 instead of 38mm surface, overhang requires work) but anything from Wyrd/PP bases can be rebased to beveled edge bases without any problem whatsoever.
...And believe me when I say I'm happy for it; by the time this releases (even if Prodos keeps their schedule, which believe me, I would just about kiss their feet for ) There's not going to be a sedition wars model in sight here to abuse for infinity proxying anymore
(I can say with reasonable confidence I wouldn't give a rat's ass for the quality of AvP rules; the aliens make great CA hungries of which I need a LOT for certain abusive lists, the preds will have some additional armour sculpted over them and do just fine as Morat, and I'm sure the marines will work just dandy for replacing the bloody wonky fusilier and auxilia sculpts. Vehicles are bought with funny money, just to paint. anything remotely TAG-like is pure profit )
2013/11/07 20:16:29
Subject: A Very Pleasing new Project from Prodos Games
BobtheInquisitor wrote: the strength of the Aliens brand is not appealing to a niche of superfans but in appealing to huge swaths of the population who might not even play tabletop games yet
I couldn't agree more. If anyone needs proof that this is the best approach, please see X-Wing.
I dunno, X-Wing is prepainted, which I hate and you also pay extra for the cheap Chinese paint jobs, which I also hate.
Manchu wrote: Hmm, so it turns out those French sculpts that showed up a while back were for this!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'm not cool with the fact that these are 30-33mm and on the "new" 30mm display bases. The Horrorclix aliens were too big for my taste (although now I'd kill to be able to get my hands on them again)
I also disagree with them making Warzone bigger. A LOT of guys had old Warzone collections, and the old box set sprues weren't great, but they were passable. They could have made a compatible line, focusing on what wasn't available in plastic (pretty muche evrything except those two unit types) and large models and vehicles.
God if they'd made these in 28mm form I'd of sold my kidneys to fund the Kickstarter.
paulson games wrote: However people who were thinking these would be suitable guard replacements are probably going to be unhappy as the scale looks to be significantly larger than GW. .
This. I don't care about "predator Orks" or some such nonsense, and I get that miniatures have moved up in scale, bit I'd still prefer 28-30mm, on 25mm bases.
Eilif wrote: This pic is still a bit off-putting Looks like they're looking to be at least 32mm (to the eye). That's not terrible, but with my sci-fi collection much more on the side of 28mm, that's a significant difference. I could still be persuaded by a great deal, but in general I like for my human figures to be of similar size.
This. D&D still uses 28-30 on 1-inch bases and grids, GW uses it, Infinity uses it, and Reaper's IMEF marines and Chronosciope figures split the difference.
alanmckenzie wrote: Has there been any clue as to the basic format of this game? Will it be a board game a la space hulk, a full on table top game like infinity, or somewhere between the two (dead zone-like)?
And has there been any mention of terrain/a board in the box?
Card terrain kills it for me. I'm in it for the models. That one guy that ran a "not-Aliens" MDF terrain looked great. I wish he'd remake it in Space Hulk scale, although I regret not buying in/
Grot 6 wrote: I'm in for this one. Are we going to start seeing different levels of the beast (Xenomorphs and their varients from the movies) and the different types of Preds (Predators and their different movies)
Seem to remember there was a RPG and I found this.
There was also the fan-made Aliens: Game Over expansion for AD&D, that could easily be converted to d20 Modern or d20 Future. It was a fan-made product, but so well-made, it won some web awards. The official site that hosted it is down, but you can find copes floating around.
Stormonu wrote: my wallet is going to hurt so much. I have the old 25MM aliens from '91, but I'm really enthused about getting them in 28 mm.
The only thing I wish is they didn't have all the aliens with their tail posed over their head to strike. My memory may be fuzzy, but I only remember the dog alien and queen using its tail like that. I'd rather if the tail just "followed along" rather that it being posed to strike like a scorpion's tail.
Like others have said, it's probably for basing and the basic alien did tail-attacks a lot in the Sega DS game.
Were you replying to me? I'm just wondering since you had one of my posts in your quote....
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2013/11/07 20:22:06
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
) There's not going to be a sedition wars model in sight here to abuse for infinity proxying anymore 
