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I definitely think it's the Warrior! Would be interesting to get other's thoughts.

Hope the folks who were interested actually watched the video, it addressed Many questions people had, and as many as they could answer while they were being asked live

Yeah, that's the Praetorian. No question.

Quoting these over to the new page:

 DaveC wrote:
No egg sack for the Queen, Powerloader is in, they are looking to add another weapons sprue for the marines. No civilians during KS but will be done later, possible Lieutenant later. They are looking at adding some of the Heroes from the old AvP game they just need final permission. Clear resin Predators. The board sections should be comparible to Space Hulk when finished 4mm thick.

RiTides they didn't identify that as the warrior (just said guess what) the head crest looks more Praetorian to me.

 RiTides wrote:
Live Q&A going on now:

Prodos wrote:Project Update #15: AVP Q&A Youtube Stream
Posted by Prodos Games Ltd

http://youtu.be/4DHtiHIHqos

Sneak peak of Warrior render at 14:00 minutes in . Here's a composite image I made of it:



And a nice single angle of it:



You're welcome

Edit: Warriors are also 37mm tall! While marines are 28mm (scale, so not sure if that is to the eyes or head, etc).

Those are a bit disappointing in my opinion... They look nothing like the alien warrior from "Aliens" so which movie/game are they from? Ahh - more people chimed in saying that looks like the Praetorian. Makes sense.
Damn! I was so looking forward to getting a small army of these... (Hopefully they are still coming!)

Here is one of my favorite sculpts from Geometric Designs in 1/8 scale... They are oop.



Btw - there are some awesome garage kit buildups of predators and aliens on this blog painted by Joe Dunaway

I am guessing that is a Praetorian as well. Mostly due.to the head crest. The width and the anterior aspect of the head is not consistent with the warrior seen in aliens.

I honestly don't understand how anyone thinks it's anything other than a Praetorian.

One or 2 other bits Weyland Yutani troops will be part of the colonial marine faction, the clear resin figure shown looked like the Predalien it was just a test cast only the Predators will be clear resin. The Resin Terrain has sufficient parts to play the game the card tiles contain a lot of extras that aren't always used.

 Ktulhut wrote:
I honestly don't understand how anyone thinks it's anything other than a Praetorian.

Personally I had no idea what a praetorian was a few days ago until DaveC pointed me at the wiki... Not everyone is familiar with the stuff created for the videogames... I did however feel it didn't resemble any warrior I knew of.

 basement.dweller wrote:

 Ktulhut wrote:
I honestly don't understand how anyone thinks it's anything other than a Praetorian.

Personally I had no idea what a praetorian was a few days ago until DaveC pointed me at the wiki... Not everyone is familiar with the stuff created for the videogames... I did however feel it didn't resemble any warrior I knew of.

That's fine. Hey just so you know, that wiki has a lot of rubbish on it too, don't take the whole thing as gospel. Either way, the Praetorian guards showed up in the Female War comic series (iirc), and began to show up in the shape we see above throughout the video games.

Praetorian is meh, I'm guessing this is it being an early render, but I do hope at least try to create authentic Alien Warriors.

Huh! You guys are probably right. In that case, I assume the base it is on is a bigger one (maybe a 40mm circle? since they said the Praetorian is 80mm high).

The base is throwing the scale off in my mind, but if that's a 40mm circle then this makes a lot more sense

Wish we could see the Warriors, though! I guess they're not allowed to show anything officially until approval (they talked about this in the video, too) but sneak peaks might not really count

Aside from the Beserker, are there any other KS-exclusive models?

 DaveC wrote:
The board sections should be comparible to Space Hulk when finished 4mm thick.

We're going to need a few more photos of those.

Another big difference is that the alien in aliens does not have the goat legged metatarsal extension. The Praetorian does.

Manchu wrote:
Aside from the Beserker, are there any other KS-exclusive models?

There's a group of entries in the FAQ on the main KS page that talk about related points:

AvP FAQ wrote:When will the retail (plastic) version of AVP Board Game be released?
Late 2014

Will the deluxe version be available after KS?
No it is a KS exclusive version

Will the resin models in the main box set be available later?
Not in the Box Set. We may sell some of them as expansion sets later, but which and when is to be defined. It won't be before early 2015.

I put all 3 of those together to give context. The Berserker is the only truly exclusive model (you can't even add on copies of it). But when the resin models from the main box will be available is unknown at this point. The other resin "add-ons" I would think will definitely be available, but I can see why they'd be unsure if they'll have resin facehuggers in the future, for example, if they have single-piece plastic ones coming out (i.e. they'd be competing with themselves at that point, or it might be a redundant product, even if it is higher quality).

 RiTides wrote:
Huh! You guys are probably right. In that case, I assume the base it is on is a bigger one (maybe a 40mm circle? since they said the Praetorian is 80mm high).

The base is throwing the scale off in my mind, but if that's a 40mm circle then this makes a lot more sense

Wish we could see the Warriors, though! I guess they're not allowed to show anything officially until approval (they talked about this in the video, too) but sneak peaks might not really count

They said 50mm base in the last interview

While that doesn't necessarily mean the render had a 50mm circle under it (since they use those bases with a large lip on them, anyway, and so might not model them with the lip in place) that does help, thanks

I like how they are thinking ahead to the future, although the "River Ghost" from Predators is probably not a good example for a faction. They'd be far better going for Weyland Yutani.

They'd be better getting this KS sorted out at this time.

So I understand from watching that video that there is 3 different ways to play.

Basic boardgame rules
Advanced boardgame rules with character customisation
Tabletop Game, Squad level (with or without character customisation?)

Not sure about the environmental cards, hopefully you can discard some if for exaple you are choosing to fight on a "Hadley's Hope" type setting.

It's quite interesting that they've made it so interchangable with Warzone, I think that's a good idea in the long run.

 Medium of Death wrote:
It's quite interesting that they've made it so interchangable with Warzone, I think that's a good idea in the long run.

Agreed! Also, my local board game geek friend watched the whole Q&A and said it put his mind much more at ease / he is much more confident in backing things now. The limit to what Prodos has been allowed to reveal on the KS page has made it hard to tell how far along they really are, but apparently they can reveal much more "off the cuff" in these live streams. Very glad to hear this was his take on it as he's much more of a board gamer than I am

I hope Prodos distills the important info from that session and either add it to the project FAQ or as an update so that folks don't have to watch the hour long video or search 9k comments or other forums for the info. Sound like the put out some good stuff, BUT properly managing the KS means making sure that info is easily accessible to backers and potential backers.

I think another very confidence boosting line was that they see this as a long term project over the next several years.

It was definitely good to see the enthusiasm that the Prodos team have for the project. Certainly I think they do have stuff that they just simply can't show us which reduces my fear in them being unprepared.

I like the idea of squads being able to split up and move around independantly.

Manchu wrote:
I'm not talking about character rights, either.

Then you're not talking about the points I actually brought up.

 Azazelx wrote:

Manchu wrote:
I'm not talking about character rights, either.

Then you're not talking about the points I actually brought up.

I guess not? Anyway, it was only my intention to talk about US law on the matter and the actual case rather than speculate about Prodos or entirely hypothetical legal arguments. Sonny Landham's case is often said to come down to the Micro Machine figure having indistinct/no features and so, because it did not look like anyone much less him, he lost his case. But that's not really what the Sixth Circuit decided. The application to this project is Prodos might could give us characters from the films, all else being equal license-wise, so long as they're not trading on the fame of an actor (and here we're in a potentially murky place) as opposed to trading on the licensed character. The old Kenner figure of Ripley springs to mind here.

Wow. Apparently this was it rather eventful weekend I decided to miss.

Manchu wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

Manchu wrote:
I'm not talking about character rights, either.

Then you're not talking about the points I actually brought up.

I guess not? Anyway, it was only my intention to talk about US law on the matter and the actual case rather than speculate about Prodos or entirely hypothetical legal arguments. Sonny Landham's case is often said to come down to the Micro Machine figure having indistinct/no features and so, because it did not look like anyone much less him, he lost his case. But that's not really what the Sixth Circuit decided. The application to this project is Prodos might could give us characters from the films, all else being equal license-wise, so long as they're not trading on the fame of an actor (and here we're in a potentially murky place) as opposed to trading on the licensed character. The old Kenner figure of Ripley springs to mind here.

I wonder how much of it is related to it being a direct product of the fim in question, too: GoldenEye had originally thought about adding in the previous Bond actors (Save Lazenby) into Goldeneye, but apparently it never got off the ground due to not getting the rights for the actors faces. Or perhaps video games are just a completely different monster.

The internet.
Why?
Because here, EVERYONE is a bar certified lawyer.

 Hellfury wrote:
Because here, EVERYONE is a bar certified lawyer.

The word is licensed. And there are a number of us on Dakka, including two moderators.

Justice and Rule wrote:
GoldenEye had originally thought about adding in the previous Bond actors (Save Lazenby) into Goldeneye, but apparently it never got off the ground due to not getting the rights for the actors faces.

That strikes me as quite a clear example of evoking the actor's persona rather than the character.

Here's the clear resin figure for those that missed it.

Just for clarity, that is not the figure that will be cast in clear resin but simply a test of the material.

Thanks.

I'm guessing various predators then. Much better than tokens like in the card game.

Manchu wrote:

 Hellfury wrote:
Because here, EVERYONE is a bar certified lawyer.

The word is licensed. And there are a number of us on Dakka, including two moderators.

I know. I've been on this forum for 15 years now. The info you just provided doesn't make the off topic, and ultimately circular, mental masturbatory execises in futility any more engaging.to read or participate in.

That's what this forum needs. An entire subsection devoted to nothing about argueing about legal assertions. Sounds like a hoot. Wish we had one. So I could avoid it like the plague.