Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game, Prodos loses license to AvP. p.266

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**Morikun**

When I asked Jarek few weeks ago about my missing stuff + the last ones in the wave 3, I got an answer about 3-4 days after (am I lucky ?) :

"If you don't have received your stuff yet, then you'll receive on the wave 3... end of March"...

And that's all.

At this day, still haven't received anything.

Serviteur,

Morikun

**Fraggle**

I've also been trying to get in contact via email to discuss missing parts and missed items on delivery 1, but with no response. Frustrating.

Sadly I can't make Salute this year to ask them in person.

**Morikun**

It appears that Prodos is not at the Salute this year...

Why, why, why ? ^^

http://www.salute.co.uk/salute/salute-2016/games/

Serviteur,

Morikun

**richred_uk**

Morikun wrote:
It appears that Prodos is not at the Salute this year...

Why, why, why ? ^^

http://www.salute.co.uk/salute/salute-2016/games/

Serviteur,

Morikun

That's the games list (participation or display)

They are there as a trader:

http://www.salute.co.uk/salute/salute-2016/traders/

In case you wanted to go and extract anything you are owed.

**Grumpae**

richred_uk wrote:
Morikun wrote:
It appears that Prodos is not at the Salute this year...

Why, why, why ? ^^

http://www.salute.co.uk/salute/salute-2016/games/

Serviteur,

Morikun

That's the games list (participation or display)

They are there as a trader:

http://www.salute.co.uk/salute/salute-2016/traders/

In case you wanted to go and extract anything you are owed.

Or be decieved in person; its always nicer when someone lies and makes false promises to your face...

**Bioptic**

CURNOW wrote:
Nope haven't had a single reply to any email ive sent in the last 2yrs . Im checking out uk distance selling regulations atm to see if they cover pre-orders so i can get a refund if anything ever turns up .

I received absolutely nothing from them in reply to all my emails, apart from something yesterday:

Hi,

your KS order is currently with our packing team waiting in a line.
It will be shipped in two weeks.

Michal

Take that to mean what you will.

**Morikun**

Take that to mean what you will.

Oh ? The same that jarek himself wrote to me (without the "2 weeks")... 2 months ago...

Be patient my friend...

Serviteur,

Morikun

**happygolucky**

I noticed recently that one of the FB groups for AvP has been deleted.

I was notified in the appropriate place in FB that one group (can't remember what it was called but I think it was called along the lines of "AvP Wargamer/Wayland Utani) turned from closed or public to secret but when I clicked on it the page just gave me error messages and "could not be found" and all that jazz, so i searched for it in FB's search menu and I found nothing.

Dunno if that's news or not but couldn't find anyone bringing that up.

**richred_uk**

happygolucky wrote:
I noticed recently that one of the FB groups for AvP has been deleted.

I was notified in the appropriate place in FB that one group (can't remember what it was called but I think it was called along the lines of "AvP Wargamer/Wayland Utani) turned from closed or public to secret but when I clicked on it the page just gave me error messages and "could not be found" and all that jazz, so i searched for it in FB's search menu and I found nothing.

Dunno if that's news or not but couldn't find anyone bringing that up.

I got the same notification - I'd been a member too but never really noticed it having activity, so I guess the group owner just decided it wasn't worth keeping open - it was an independent group rather than a Prodos one.

**Rick_1138**

Having just read latest ks update letter now, having received absolutely nothing (am pretty sure that as I have stuff that is going to be in wave 3 I won't be getting anything until it's all approved. So 3 years will be not far away from passing with this.

I can see it all going on eBay once received.

**angelofvengeance**

I'll pop the update here for convenience

Prodos Games Ltd says:
Hello backers,
Before we get inundated with questions in relation to pledges, I would ask that you read the previous update in relation to the issue we had in relation to door stands. Sure we should have made sure that we had the supplier locked in but things like this happen and we were caught out. This has led to a 5 week delay in shipping and is unfortunately outside of our control. Some have asked as to the reason that we didn’t announce this earlier. The reason is that we didn’t want to panic anyone and had hoped that the new supplier could be sourced much faster such that there would essentially have been no need to inform anyone of the problem. I am now acknowledging that all packages have not yet been issued because of this delay and I know some of you out there are still awaiting wave 2.
At this time we are currently looking at packing 50 of pledges to be posted this week with the remainder to issue shortly. This has been solely down to the issue with the stands and no other reason. We have funds to ship, we are working on new stuff and we are awaiting on Fox to clear some beautiful new sculpts.
Some of you have already seen some 3d concept of the new Dropship and looking at it, it’s going to be huge. Pricing wise we’re not 100% sure until it’s actually cast but what I can say is, it is planned, that this will be a 2 model box set. That’s right, 2 models. 1 the Dropship and the 2nd being the APC. We are really excited about making these iconic vehicles.
Back to talking about the stands. We have received Monday stands. Yesterday the 1st wave of games came to us (2 pallets as on attached pictures), and today, despite the huge shortage on staff due to sickness, 50 of them are going out. Reminding games should be with us within 2-3 weeks and it's game over. Please bear in mind, some of these stands will be different colours but this is unavoidable as we are trying to ship this out as fast as possible.(and to be honest, aliens keep ripping the doors open in all our games anyway so they never last long)
Approvals: we are green lighted on : Young Bloods, Sentry Guns, Female Predator, they will be available for collection at Salute. And part of wave 3 post Salute ( along with remaining clear predators, Sergeant, and other alternative pieces), hence wave 3 will start post Salute (beg of April), I understand that for some of you it may be 1st/2nd/3rd wave, and we had to deliberately postpone shipping of newly approved item due to manpower capacity constrains (packing) and constant over-promising.
Shipping pre-Salute: we will get as many parcels as possible in next 3 weeks, however there won't be no shipping 2 weeks before Salute, simply due to shortage on staff and preparing stock/pledges for collection, if any, for Salute.
SALUTE collection + alternative Warrior models : If for some reason your pledge is now with you by Salute 2015 and and you plan to visit this year Salute please let us know via email additionally please make sure that you have your pledge manager print out and some ID, you may also collect pledge for your friend (please make sure your friend email us with name of the person that will be collecting his/her pledge).
An alternative Warrior models! - We will have a limited stock of "show only model" at Salute, about 50 sets at max. - Warrior models from the Aliens movie (classic design) and with Gods help maybe a Dropship and/or APC.
REMINDER: Please , please , please check your pledge manager for correct address and/or missing name surname (we need both for shipping). We had in last 4 weeks (shipped in last 2 months) 47 pledges returned to us due to wrong address, I understand that it was a really long ride, and in some cases people have moved to new places, however we wont be able to re-ship your KS at this stage and it will be put on a pile to be delivered at the end of this madness (unless you are happy to cover re-shipping costs now). Accepting your return doubles the cost of shipping for us as well as we have to pay for road back.
Thanks

**Nostromodamus**

Still no mention of the multipose marines...

**CptJake**

Nostromodamus wrote:
Still no mention of the multipose marines...

I'm not sure they are trying for multi-pose as much as an alternative to the box set poses.

**Nostromodamus**

CptJake wrote:
Nostromodamus wrote:
Still no mention of the multipose marines...

I'm not sure they are trying for multi-pose as much as an alternative to the box set poses.

Well whatever they are, I have 15 of them paid for and I'm getting ncreasingly concerned about them never getting mentioned.

**CptJake**

I have one set in my KS order. I too wonder if/when they'll ever show up.

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

Oh what a surprise another delayed deadline they still can't stick too. They even have the cheek to say some of you haven't received wave 2 yet, so far I have received nothing. All I can say is if your in the UK get to salute and strip their stand of everything your owed, hopefully this will leave them nothing to sell leaving their trip as a nice big loss.

**Izza**

I thought i must have been the only one with nothing to show for putting my trust (and cash) in Prodos 3 years ago, but i shoukd have known better.
As usual my emails get ignored, updates come out full of lies and delays.
If it ever does arrive, its getting sold straight away, 3 years later I'm not into minis games anymore. Will keep the stretch goals thou, I've always wanted Colonial Matines models and may actually have some.
Sigh, what a waste

**CURNOW**

So anyone want to pick my stuff up from salute for me ? Will pay lol

**Joyboozer**

I would happily take my game without stands as long as it meant I got everything I'm owed and never have to deal with you again, Prodos.

**CURNOW**

Yeah im the same ..except my pledge doesn't include stands i bet its still delayed due to "stands" almost 3 years and a year since release and i don't have a single thing to show for it . No way they will be getting a penny more from me on this

**Pacific**

Morikun wrote:
Take that to mean what you will.

Oh ? The same that jarek himself wrote to me (without the "2 weeks")... 2 months ago...

Be patient my friend...

Serviteur,

Morikun

Incredible.. the quality of material that you are putting out on your site/forums, you would think they would say "We've got to get this guy his stuff!"

Unbelievable that people are still waiting for their wave 1 and 2 at this stage

**crazy_cat**

CURNOW wrote:
Yeah im the same ..except my pledge doesn't include stands i bet its still delayed due to "stands" almost 3 years and a year since release and i don't have a single thing to show for it . No way they will be getting a penny more from me on this

Same here - I'm just waiting on some minis. But all emails ignored, and no stuff.

**Bluehammer**

Heh, that latest post made me laugh, " and I know some of you out there are still awaiting wave 2".

Just in case anybody is keeping count, I'm also in the received bugger all camp. I'm also in the 'Prodos have never replied to any of my emails, which is why I find myself here' camp.

Again, thanks for posting all of the updates guys. Without this festering pool of vitriolic hate, it really would be a media blackout as far as AvP is concerned.

**Ruglud**

Couple of Facebook comments that may (or may no) interest folk...

Any info on when you'll be able to show us the 3D Terrain on display?

Jarek Ewertowski:
will have samples at Salute

Jarek Ewertowski:
so pictures will flow around I would guess

Jarek Ewertowski: [dropship] size 37.5cm (14.7") long and 22.95cm (9.03") wide

**CURNOW**

Doesn't look right . To rounded and the nose is wrong .

**bubber**

I'm still waiting for anything. :(

**Sheep**

Haven't received a damn thing yet

**Joyboozer**

I wonder if there's a chance they'll run out of anything else selling at retail before shipping us wave 1.

**CURNOW**

Well the day i get mine in the post prodos will probably be getting a email from me to let them know i will be returning the items for a refund under the 2014 consumer contracts regulations tbh i cant even get the energy to want to paint them and if i keep them they will just sit in a box so refund and a whole new bolt action army with the money i think

**PomWallaby**

Don't interpret my silence as receipt.
Still haven't recieved a single thing from Prodos.