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2016/10/30 12:47:59
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
It's an event only item, perhaps offer someone a large wad of cash for it, or attend the event?
I've not been able to attend an event to get any of the event only FW figures, several of which I want, in my case I've paid over the odds for some of them on ebay.
And the sad thing is you'll still apprently defend that practice.
It's an event only item, I couldn't go to the event, I paid out to a private seller to get what I wanted because I wanted it enough. I saw NIN in 2013 and stupidly didn't get an official T shirt on the night, I since hunted down and paid a lot more for one because I wanted the T shirt commemorating what was a bucket list life event.
This is a simple card, it's not even a particularly good one, not having it is activating Panic's OCD, I get that, I have the same with my hobbies, but for other things in them, in Star Trek Attack Wing there are whole hosts of event only ships, with event only cards and some of them are broken as hell, if I want them enough, I'll pay for them on ebay.
Not everything is served up on a plate for you, there are a number, of options available but free jelly and ice cream isn't. I want another 200 gallon tank on the opposite wall to my existing one, but I can't afford it, I'm not losing sleep over it.
2016/10/30 13:00:18
Subject: Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
I don't even get why special cards like this exist for the game? I know there are some alternate rules available for Blood Bowl which have all the hallmarks of "random stuff happens! = fun" that GW love to shoe-horn in, but I hope the new rules that have been printed don't have these things as a requirement for gameplay. The Living Rulebook has been great for a long time now, I'd rather not involve this kind of one-round game-breaking if I can avoid it.
2016/10/30 15:05:19
Subject: Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
It's an event only item, perhaps offer someone a large wad of cash for it, or attend the event?
I've not been able to attend an event to get any of the event only FW figures, several of which I want, in my case I've paid over the odds for some of them on ebay.
And the sad thing is you'll still apprently defend that practice.
It's an event only item, I couldn't go to the event, I paid out to a private seller to get what I wanted because I wanted it enough. I saw NIN in 2013 and stupidly didn't get an official T shirt on the night, I since hunted down and paid a lot more for one because I wanted the T shirt commemorating what was a bucket list life event.
This is a simple card, it's not even a particularly good one, not having it is activating Panic's OCD, I get that, I have the same with my hobbies, but for other things in them, in Star Trek Attack Wing there are whole hosts of event only ships, with event only cards and some of them are broken as hell, if I want them enough, I'll pay for them on ebay.
Not everything is served up on a plate for you, there are a number, of options available but free jelly and ice cream isn't. I want another 200 gallon tank on the opposite wall to my existing one, but I can't afford it, I'm not losing sleep over it.
Like I said, it's sad seeing people defend things that only really exist to screw them over out of some misplaced sense of bootstrappery or whatever.
Event only items benefit nobody except ebay scalpers, so why everyone is so enamoured of the concept is beyond me. Also; comparing game rules, general purpose miniatures, and basic faction apparel, ie what GW sell as event exclusives and what the discussion is actually about, to event specific "I was there" tat doesn't really fly. If GW was flogging "I attended [event] [year]" shirts nobody except attendees would give a gak, but they're not.
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2016/10/30 15:54:53
Subject: Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
Like I said, it's sad seeing people defend things that only really exist to screw them over out of some misplaced sense of bootstrappery or whatever.
You're new here so I'll cut you some slack, I've dragged that company over the coals on this forum for years, your insinuation is laughable to anyone who's been posting here for any length of time and knows me. But I won't indulge in hyperbole and vilification for no damned good reason and one does not exist here, event only items are just that, a prize to offer up to people who took the time and spent the money to attend the event.
Also; comparing game rules, general purpose miniatures, and basic faction apparel, ie what GW sell as event exclusives and what the discussion is actually about, to event specific "I was there" tat doesn't really fly. If GW was flogging "I attended [event] [year]" shirts nobody except attendees would give a gak, but they're not.
Except, of course, there would be some 'gotta catch em all' types out there that would want whatever it was anyway, regardless of what it was or did, this BB event could have been giving away a T shirt and there'd be someone here complaining that they really wanted that T shirt and it was terrible they couldn't get it and isn't GW mean for giving away a T shirt to people attending an event. The comparison is entirely appropriate given it's exclusivity, limited appeal outside it's intended market and the mark up etc that occurs on resale.
GW have done some remarkably gakky things over the years, I've been the first in line to decry them on those occasions. Giving something cool to people showing up to a fun event isn't one of them. If you want this thing, go and get it. The people who are taking vacation days, spending money on travel and lodgings to get there and play are getting a nice, lightweight bonus chucked into attending, I think that's cool and a decent thing to do. If you want this thing badly enough, take the holiday time from work, book the train ticket and go and get it, if not, then either offer a king's ransom to someone who's going to get you one or go without.
2016/10/30 18:00:25
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
The GW staff at Warhammer World were denying the launch of Bloodbowl in November as of this Friday just gone; this special event only card is just something cool on top. So what if you can't get your hands on the physical event-only card; just print it yourself?
2016/10/31 02:54:44
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
I think things like these "Event Only" items aren't EVIL but I don't think they benefit GW nearly as much as a more carefully thought out promotion might do.
If you don't care about the card, then it doesn't matter either way.
If you DO care about getting the card, then it's STILL probably not the deciding factor in getting you to go to the event, especially if you live in another country. You can't make the event, and you can't get the card you want.
If you DO get the card, you get it from someone else (who didn't care about the card, but still went to the event). The card wasn't a deciding factor for them EITHER, as they are selling it to you.
There seems to be a TINY, TINY fraction of people who might go to the event, and the card was what pushed them over the line.
Now if you'd take the same card, and give it away FREE at the event, but sell it on your web site, or include it in an order of $X of Bloodbowl merchandise, or whatever, you'd have a much more impactful promotion. People would get a special reward for making the event, but other people who wanted it would still give GW money. GW wouldn't lose attendees (because no one was going just to get a free card--or almost no one), but you'd make attendees feel rewarded, and still let people who wanted the card get one in a way that benefitted GW.
2016/10/31 07:00:48
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
I can see the appeal of it being an event-only item, provided such cards are at every official/officially backed tournament across the globe. Keen as a bean to get into BB come release as it looks fun and doing a league sounds awesome rather than playing one-off games all the time.
What I'm getting as is that cards like these should be limited to events, but be present at every event and not just as Warhammer World (Realm?) It's a nice little incentive to get up and attend these things. Eventually (here's hoping) there may be 201X event card packs, which contain the event cards from the previous year, minus "<name of tournament, year>" exclusive text. Sorta like how FFG has the alt-cards, only the alt-cards eventually get phased into general circulation minus some "I attended this event, woo!" text.
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2016/10/31 09:50:38
Subject: Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
Howdy Guys and Girls - some information about what's next for Blood Bowl:
- There will be a Blood Bowl App alongside the box release
- Deathzone: Season 1 will have new and expanded rules. It's also the first wave of expansions for Bloodbowl. It will feature league rules, seven new teams and Star Players.
- New pits are planned as battle mats.
- Next team are the Skaven in plastic. It's the same deal as with the starter box models, you get 12 skaven, 2 times the same sprue.
- The next two teams are Dwarfes and Goblins, also in plastic.
- Big Critters! Plastic clampacks for troll and ogre are planned
- Starplayers and Referees - probably in resin
- Future teams are planned to be resin - Nurgle and Dark Elfs sometimes next year
- Event goodies are planned - from shirts to cards.
Regards,
Lady Atia
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2016/11/01 14:27:17
Subject: Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
One gathers they -- understandably -- get the odd rule a bit wrong here and there.
and some pics from around the web :
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2016/11/02 13:42:52
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
Size comparison of the new board to the old board from War of Sigmar.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2016/11/02 14:50:26
Subject: Blood Bowl - Now with added unboxing vid and new funky website!
odinfellhammer wrote: Any one know if all of the teams rosters are in the rule book?
they are not. We get the rules, extras like weather, kick-off, origins of BB fluff, assembly and painting guide for each team. The campaign book is the next tool. Skaven will be available at releaseof ths main box, so sayeth GW staff.
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2016/11/02 15:16:48
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
It looks like, despite the new pitch being a different size to the older one, the actual grid is laid out the same, so people can still use their old boards and custom scratch built stadiums, etc. Very cool of them. They could have just as easily made some changes that 'strongly encouraged' purchase of the new boxed game beside the merits of the cool looking components. The rules situation remains to be seen (I haven't followed the rules leaks, if any).
I've played Blood Bowl many times over the years, but have never owned a copy. I will most definitely be picking this one up...along with the Skaven team, my WFB faction of choice.
It's pretty much the same BB but rules and cheat sheet are much clearer and organized better. Clarifications on some rules and order of actions. Nice extra dice, a D16 for random player should an unruly fan throw a rock, or whatever. Loving it!
Recording final review to release tonight. So far existing teams work fine with human/orc team stats-wise.
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2016/11/02 17:54:57
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
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