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2016/11/02 19:38:54
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Fenriswulf wrote: I don't even get why special cards like this exist for the game? I know there are some alternate rules available for Blood Bowl which have all the hallmarks of "random stuff happens! = fun" that GW love to shoe-horn in, but I hope the new rules that have been printed don't have these things as a requirement for gameplay. The Living Rulebook has been great for a long time now, I'd rather not involve this kind of one-round game-breaking if I can avoid it.
Going by the unboxing video, the special play cards will be back to closer to the sort of prominence they did when introduced in 3rd edition. Subsequent Living Rulebooks making them less important was to the detriment of the game, IMO; I'm glad they're back.
2016/11/02 19:59:10
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Fenriswulf wrote: I don't even get why special cards like this exist for the game? I know there are some alternate rules available for Blood Bowl which have all the hallmarks of "random stuff happens! = fun" that GW love to shoe-horn in, but I hope the new rules that have been printed don't have these things as a requirement for gameplay. The Living Rulebook has been great for a long time now, I'd rather not involve this kind of one-round game-breaking if I can avoid it.
Going by the unboxing video, the special play cards will be back to closer to the sort of prominence they did when introduced in 3rd edition. Subsequent Living Rulebooks making them less important was to the detriment of the game, IMO; I'm glad they're back.
The cards get shuffled and the coach winning the toss picks his combo of up to three cards first (you roll for amount; 1 = 1, 2-5 = 2, 6=3). If magic is available (later on) you can only get one card from that selection. Still have some explodely or fall-downy cards to play
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2016/11/02 20:35:53
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Fango wrote: It looks like, despite the new pitch being a different size to the older one, the actual grid is laid out the same, so people can still use their old boards and custom scratch built stadiums, etc. Very cool of them. They could have just as easily made some changes that 'strongly encouraged' purchase of the new boxed game beside the merits of the cool looking components. The rules situation remains to be seen (I haven't followed the rules leaks, if any).
I've played Blood Bowl many times over the years, but have never owned a copy. I will most definitely be picking this one up...along with the Skaven team, my WFB faction of choice.
Changes in board/pitch size do impact pretty heavily on the throwing game, though. So sayeth my 2nd edition astrogranite and 3rd edition boards - not to mention the felt Impact! miniatures mat.
Fango wrote: It looks like, despite the new pitch being a different size to the older one, the actual grid is laid out the same, so people can still use their old boards and custom scratch built stadiums, etc. Very cool of them. They could have just as easily made some changes that 'strongly encouraged' purchase of the new boxed game beside the merits of the cool looking components. The rules situation remains to be seen (I haven't followed the rules leaks, if any).
I've played Blood Bowl many times over the years, but have never owned a copy. I will most definitely be picking this one up...along with the Skaven team, my WFB faction of choice.
Changes in board/pitch size do impact pretty heavily on the throwing game, though. So sayeth my 2nd edition astrogranite and 3rd edition boards - not to mention the felt Impact! miniatures mat.
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2016/11/03 05:10:59
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Fango wrote: It looks like, despite the new pitch being a different size to the older one, the actual grid is laid out the same, so people can still use their old boards and custom scratch built stadiums, etc. Very cool of them. They could have just as easily made some changes that 'strongly encouraged' purchase of the new boxed game beside the merits of the cool looking components. The rules situation remains to be seen (I haven't followed the rules leaks, if any).
I've played Blood Bowl many times over the years, but have never owned a copy. I will most definitely be picking this one up...along with the Skaven team, my WFB faction of choice.
Changes in board/pitch size do impact pretty heavily on the throwing game, though. So sayeth my 2nd edition astrogranite and 3rd edition boards - not to mention the felt Impact! miniatures mat.
GW does gak like this just to be dicks. Plain and simplly dicks.
I admit that I am not very familiar with classic bloodbowl, but they simply seemed to have scaled everything up including the measuring stick to accommodate large modern minis.
Could someone explain why this is a problem?
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2016/11/03 05:25:03
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
bound for glory wrote: Fair enough. But why gw feel the need to make the pitch bigger and the range ruler, well, yeah, dicks.
They didn't want to be restrained by size of old models for new models? Old board was pretty crowded for big guys as it is. Now with bigger base for EVERYBODY...Not to mention just look at the size of the orcs.
Good thing is if you have smaller board you are likely to have smaller ruler and similarly if you have bigger board you should have the bigger ruler so apart from trouble of fitting new bigger bases on smaller board there shouldn't be much of trouble anyway
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2016/11/03 06:44:13
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
bound for glory wrote: Fair enough. But why gw feel the need to make the pitch bigger and the range ruler, well, yeah, dicks.
Oh, that is easy, Scale Creep.
Miniatures, especially the popular 3rd Party Bloodbowl Miniatures have gotten a larger and do not look very good on the 25m bases.
32mm bases allow a 'wider' set of stance options and positions. Looks like the same reasoning they gave for the move to 40k Marines moving to 32mm bases as well.
I, for one, welcome this new pitch size change and look forward to it.
As for the range ruler...I honestly haven't used a range ruler for passing for years, with one singular exception.
That exception is interceptions. And most of the time I try to avoid those entirely or it is obvious that the player is going to get a chance.
Everything else can be done with a nice little chart like this:
Getting angry over this change is like getting angry that on average phone covers are getting larger and ignoring that larger phones are more popular now than in the past.
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2016/11/03 06:47:43
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Do we have any more concrete info on the prices and if the Dwarfs/Season One book are coming straight after the release (the next week) or later down the line?
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2016/11/03 07:12:48
Subject: Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Everyone remember that rule 1 is be polite, and it isn't optional. This thread is about a topic that a lot of people are interested in, and if you can't discuss it politely you won't be discussing it.
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2016/11/03 07:58:12
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Bottle wrote: Do we have any more concrete info on the prices and if the Dwarfs/Season One book are coming straight after the release (the next week) or later down the line?
Good question!
I would assume we are talking a couple of months down the line, but I have nothing to cite for that other than my expectations.
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2016/11/03 08:50:35
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
I saw somewhere, that skaven will be released the same day the core box will!
Edit:Tried to find the source and couldn't, so I'd disregard that info.. Might be mistaking it for something..
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2016/11/03 09:08:56
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - Playtesting vid and board size comparison shots page 19.
Bottle wrote: Do we have any more concrete info on the prices and if the Dwarfs/Season One book are coming straight after the release (the next week) or later down the line?
I believe the supplement and the skaven team are released at the same time as the game -- maybe week after or something.
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