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 Overread wrote:
Unless that image wraps around on 3 sides and the 3rd side (the other short end of the box) we can't see. Until we see the pack opened up we don't know the contents for sure.

Yeah maybe the third side is full of empty crypt bases

28mm bases!

 Elbows wrote:
If eBay sales were still a thing, the price would be far more palatable. A $170 would be $122.50 shipped with the old 15% eBay sales. Sadly, a thing of the past.

I keep hearing this. What happened, exactly?

ebay in the US were running a pretty regular promotion of 15% off about once a week for quite a while so people timed their Warhammer shopping to coincide with it (and since they were from 3rd party suppliers there was usually a discount off retail anyway)

this seems to have stopped so no more superdiscounts

Yeah I was jealous of all those big ebay sales - I think the UK had a 10% once or twice but most of them are limited to just "electronics/household" or other specific markets.

I guess that Ebay USA was using the sales to help drive up interest in using their service over others.

Chopstick wrote:

Spoiler:

Glad to see a separate rulebook will be available. For around $50 I should be good to go with some of my Gloomspite Gitz and I'll be able to pick up some of the warbands at a later date.

List of playable units for existing factions :

 -Ekko- wrote:

That's about the variety I expected :(

Oh yeah Bonesplitterz! Let's here it for unit diversity!!!

Do you want to bring a Savage Orc boy? Or maybe even a Savage Orc boy? Or perhaps, and this might be a radical choice that few players would think of taking, but a Savage Orc boy?

yep, there is my excuse to buy a Necromancer and some skellies....

In fairness orks are in a really bad way in AoS - forget all the gripes from 40K; the AoS orks are really toughed up. Goblin grots are their own army; meanwhile we wound up with 3 ork armies (now down to 2) which were basically the very same them just in different styles.

Big boss
Big boss on mount
ork warriors with close combat choppas
bigger ork warriors with choppas
orks on boars
dancing ork
shaman ork

So yeah orks need lots of attention from GW to at least get some diversity between the different forces other than if they wear armour or not. That said poor bonesplitters, but its not too bad, don't forget all the Chaos Warbands we are seeing are limited to 1 roster of models too.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh yeah Bonesplitterz! Let's here it for unit diversity!!!

Do you want to bring a Savage Orc boy? Or maybe even a Savage Orc boy? Or perhaps, and this might be a radical choice that few players would think of taking, but a Savage Orc boy?

Since these look to be kits and not units, you'll possibly be able to use Arrowboys and Morboys as well as Savage Orruks.

Great they would pick Stormcast Vanguard the only kits I don’t own! At least I have enough for Nighthaunt, GSG and LoN on hand. Some of the lists are very limited.

Hmm... looking over that I actually have enough to do Goblins as well as Flesh Eater Courts (as long as you don't need more than 12 Ghouls and 3 Crypt Horrors). Not bad. That's nice to know.

 Ghaz wrote:
Since these look to be kits and not units, you'll possibly be able to use Arrowboys and Morboys as well as Savage Orruks.

Oh I fully expect that there will be the different types they've made up since AoS came about, but it's just funny that their entire Warband is made up of one kit.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... looking over that I actually have enough to do Goblins as well as Flesh Eater Courts (as long as you don't need more than 12 Ghouls and 3 Crypt Horrors). Not bad. That's nice to know.

 Ghaz wrote:
Since these look to be kits and not units, you'll possibly be able to use Arrowboys and Morboys as well as Savage Orruks.

Oh I fully expect that there will be the different types they've made up since AoS came about, but it's just funny that their entire Warband is made up of one kit.

Other than characters, Bonesplitterz only have two kits (infantry and cavalry).

So they pick "machine gun" Vanguard Stormcast to turn these melee chaos warband into pin cushion?

Sound like fun (or cancerous).

I doubt that list is real just based on the stormcast. Why would they be the only ranged army in the game? And the raptors are way overpowered for a skirmish game, usually they take on large monsters or hordes. Liberators should definitely be on that list at a minimum.

Chopstick wrote:
So they pick "machine gun" Vanguard Stormcast to turn these melee chaos warband into pin cushion?

Sound like fun (or cancerous).

Don't forget the game plays out on a small terrain heavy board. So sure you've got a missile weapon, but you're not going to get big open spaces to use it. Furthermore if you can see them to shoot they can see you to charge.

dt4k87 wrote:
I doubt that list is real just based on the stormcast. Why would they be the only ranged army in the game? And the raptors are way overpowered for a skirmish game, usually they take on large monsters or hordes. Liberators should definitely be on that list at a minimum.

According to this list, ruleswise Sigmarines get crossbow dudes, crossbow dudes and crossbow dudes. And pets.

By the background, they get the kind of sneaky ranger dudes that of all Sigmarines would be the most likely to pop up behind enemy lines.

Could go either way, but knowing GW if I had to guess I'd say they'd pick troops based on background and worry about the rules later (or not at all, on occasion).

Chopstick wrote:
So they pick "machine gun" Vanguard Stormcast to turn these melee chaos warband into pin cushion?

Sound like fun (or cancerous).

Raptors(the only ones with ranged worth talking about, as the Hunters' handbows are trash) are likely going to be stupid points heavy.

 Overread wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
So they pick "machine gun" Vanguard Stormcast to turn these melee chaos warband into pin cushion?

Sound like fun (or cancerous).

Don't forget the game plays out on a small terrain heavy board. So sure you've got a missile weapon, but you're not going to get big open spaces to use it. Furthermore if you can see them to shoot they can see you to charge.

Looking at the sample unit card, I think there's going to be a lot more ranged than our previous experience with chaos mortals in Warhammer suggests, on top of the various ranged abilities that will be kicking around (the Iron Golem ogre thing apparently throws bolas 6" on a double something, for example). Which isn't to say Vanguard wouldn't still be elite shooters, it's just not as much of an empty field when it comes to missiles (also literally, re: Overread's comment). Don't Vanguard also make sense from a ranger-y fluff perspective?

Well I had always been interested in savage orcs (amazing looking to my eyes) but never had any excuse on getting those or money.

One unit sure but it has good amount of options so it can be a good choice when in skirmish game.

I hope that image is fake. This would be such a good opportunity to tie in the sale of easy to build sequitors and the underworldss warbands

vanguard are in there because they are what passes for Light Infantry in their faction.

But now you know why the booster pack packaging. 3 kits at 4-5 weapon loadouts per kit (including command group) is about 15 cards per faction.

FEC have Crypt horror but gloomspite gitz didn't get the Troggoth? :(. I really like those guys.

Guess that will be in the expansion...someday.

And Legion of Nagash is the only band that had a hero.

Also Nighthaunt, Legion of Nagash, Stormcast, Ironjawz, Gloomspite gitz can also used Shadespire warband for more flavor

 lord_blackfang wrote:
vanguard are in there because they are what passes for Light Infantry in their faction.

None of them are light infantry, they all wear the same thick armor. The one from Warrior Chamber would be their most common run of the mill infantry,

I just made that comment for fun, personally I would pick Vanguard chamber for this game too, for better or worse, I like dakka after all, warrior "hammer time" chamber would be too boring.

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 -Ekko- wrote:

That's about the variety I expected :(

Well thats depressingly dull.

Gues we'll be needing that Flesh Eater Courts warband in season 3. Maybe some Savage Orks and Daughters while we're at it.

For as poorly as my Vanguard's crossbows have done in Underworlds I won't be too concerned about their ranged attacks. I get a feeling a lot of people will have some sort of ranged special like others have already mentioned.

US Pricing.

I hope that list is wrong... poor Savage Orcs, at least their warband requires only one box.

I really don't understand why so many factions have been split up into smaller factions in AoS. It creates some 'interesting' results.

Do remember that most Kill Team factions are just 1-2 plastic kits.