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The First Fang gets a special ability (on a triple) with his harpoon The weapon symbols just seem to be a graphical indication of which weapon uses which stats in the case of multi-weapon fighters.

Interestingly, the harpoon isn't technically a ranged weapon because 'ranged weapon' has it's own symbol.

The last faction focus makes it clear that the model index on the website does not represent all the choices available to the faction. For example, for FEC the site only says Crypt Ghouls, Horrors and Flayers, but the article also mentions Crypt Infernals (which is the Flayer unit champion). A big relief especially for Ironjawz who were afraid they would only have 2 stat cards in the pack

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The last faction focus makes it clear that the model index on the website does not represent all the choices available to the faction. For example, for FEC the site only says Crypt Ghouls, Horrors and Flayers, but the article also mentions Crypt Infernals (which is the Flayer unit champion). A big relief especially for Ironjawz who were afraid they would only have 2 stat cards in the pack

Well I am sure some will be happy with option getting poking sticks instead of whacking sticks.

 Crimson wrote:
So does anyone know whether the starter box will be an one off, or whether it will stay in production for foreseeable future?

If Kill Team's starter is an indication, look for this starter to go away in a few months.
Then if you thought $170 USD was high, try buying all the stuff separately.

165 points for a SE Vanguard Hunter



245 points for a Blood Sister Gorgai



200 Points for a Squighopper



150 points for a Dreadwarden



190 points for a Crypt Horror



265 points for a Morrsarr Lochian Prince

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Man I can't sort this all out, what I'm getting is:
-Non-Chaos warbands are lazy and they should have just focused on Chaos ones
-There's not enough support for non-Chaos warbands and there should be more of them.
-The fluff doesn't make sense because people haven't read it
-The fluff isn't worth reading because it doesn't make sense
-The campaign system is no better than pick up games
-You can't play pick up games because of the campaign system

Is this just internet being internet or have I just lost the page?

I believe this is one of those frequent cases where different people want different things, and don't really know if this thing really fits what they think they're getting.

The stuff is up on the Newzealand site!
This includes Warscroll downloads for AoS regular for all the three currently releasing warbands, and the two chaos creatures from the core set

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/New-Exclusive?N=2030501316+3206404541&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3ANZ_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_NZ_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1563617700000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1563617700000]&view=all

Anyone know if the Battleplan Cards product is just the same cards that come in the starter set? =O

Noctem wrote:
Anyone know if the Battleplan Cards product is just the same cards that come in the starter set? =O

Yes. It says so in the product description for the cards.

The only thing you wouldn't have from the Core Set is the "Terrain Decks" which are included with a Ravaged Lands set(the Mausoleum and what's in the Core Set).

Noctem wrote:
Anyone know if the Battleplan Cards product is just the same cards that come in the starter set? =O

I believe its been confirmed that they are the same cards. Basically those cards and the rulebook are being sold on their own for those at launch who want to get involved but who don't want the core boxed set. So you'd get all you'd need with them. The only thing you don't get are the terrain cards which are being sold in the terrain sets - which makes sense as those cards are tied to specific terrain kits.

The Battleplan cards are also reprinted at the back of the rulebook including the coreset terrain cards..

Gotta say I'm pleasantly surprised by the AoS faction cards, looks like they will fight on equal footing to the bespoke Warcry warbands.

Cypher lords dynamic poses looks so cool in 360 view

*looks at AoS pile of shame*
Wow I have five unbuilt Warcry warbands already

Cypher Lords had 2 options in the kit.

Double Bladed Glaive/Nagamaki replaced with Single blade, the bit are next to each other.

Dude with the longest glaive replace with 2 Kukri, bits also next to each other.

And the Thrallmaster has 3 arms.

Also the pawn unit have better looking weapon than the luminate, which had the (ugly) crescent-moon spade, time for some cutting...

Anyone else think Iron Golems seem pretty strong for AoS? Might be looking to them as an ally choice.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Anyone else think Iron Golems seem pretty strong for AoS? Might be looking to them as an ally choice.

Haven’t checked out Warscrolls yet, but I heard the same on one of FB AoS pages. Edit: Checked them out, not seeing it. What am I missing that makes them pretty strong?

Furies = Flying Skinks?

Untamed Beasts get a rend missile attack and are highly mobile, having the run/charge ability. Hmmm...

 privateer4hire wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
So does anyone know whether the starter box will be an one off, or whether it will stay in production for foreseeable future?

If Kill Team's starter is an indication, look for this starter to go away in a few months.
Then if you thought $170 USD was high, try buying all the stuff separately.

I really hope this doesn't happen, kill team kinda slowed down in my area because there was no starter, thus less an influx of new players. It's still pretty popular for those already invested though. Having a starter box available is kind of essential for any new game, and warcry does not have an established playerbase.

I really want to get into this game, but I just can't blow that kind of money right now. Plus the untamed beasts warband does not interest me in the slightest, neither does the imo excessive amount of creatures in the box which inflate the price. My favorite warband so far is probably the iron golems, but it seems they aren't available outside the starter box until later on. It does look like a good fun little game though and i'd much rather play this than aos or 40k.

Does anyone know if the corebook contains the rules for the other Warbands, or do you have to get the cards?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Does anyone know if the corebook contains the rules for the other Warbands, or do you have to get the cards?

You have to get the cards, from the GMG review. Or just wait for someone doing youtube unboxing.

Hmm... thanks.

It's just that I don't like buying redundant things, and whilst I understand why the pack comes with the rules in 40 different languages, I don't like buying things I'm never going to use.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Anyone else think Iron Golems seem pretty strong for AoS? Might be looking to them as an ally choice.

All 3 warbands seem very middling. From a design viewpoint I like them more than most GW board-game-to-main-game conversions, they are straightforward, no-nonsense, and not overburdened with random abilities (consider what a godawful mishmash of crap Zarbag's Gitz or the Godsworn Hunt are in AoS). But they also don't offer much new. The Furies, on the other hand... that's some good stuff.

Slow start to the open day coverage just the Shattered Stormvault box so far

I do like that mat the reverse of all the mats is a variation on the same design so multiple mats can make a bigger battlefield.

Presumably £55 the 2 temples alone cost that although you get less columns but you get 2 other sprues instead.

So the contents is

Gryphhound statue sprue
Smallplinth/walkway sprue
2 shattered temples bases
1 or 2 Column sprues (4 or 8 columns) (hard to tell as the temple on the left isn't really visible to confirm)
Board and cards

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Anyone else think Iron Golems seem pretty strong for AoS? Might be looking to them as an ally choice.

All 3 warbands seem very middling. From a design viewpoint I like them more than most GW board-game-to-main-game conversions, they are straightforward, no-nonsense, and not overburdened with random abilities (consider what a godawful mishmash of crap Zarbag's Gitz or the Godsworn Hunt are in AoS). But they also don't offer much new. The Furies, on the other hand... that's some good stuff.

Agreed, its a little underwhelming at first, but then you realise that instead of being full of gimmicks they are basically really basic troops to fit into the army naturally alongside others. Also its interesting to note that the forces don't have optional additional unit types, instead the alternate specialist models within each teams are MUST takes within their respective numerical limits which are all based on the number of models in a Warcry boxed set (1 in every 8 or 9 etc..). This means that you can pretty much build them from the box however you want and they will work effortlessly within AoS. That's a very powerful take because Warcry is clearly going to favour some weapon choices over others (where customising is possible) whilst bringing it into AoS you just drop them down on the board and your'e good to go.

I hope that, balance wise, they end up decent within a Slaves to Darkness army or general demons army. Not outstanding, but at the very least capable and decent to put on the table.

nice diorama conversion.

Any one had picture of the other warband's card?

The hype for this has crashed the Element Games website at 10 am, I do not recall that happening before.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
The hype for this has crashed the Element Games website at 10 am, I do not recall that happening before.

I did get Element to load at one point but trying to add the 9 card packs just killed it so I ordered from Wayland instead.

Goblin gaming for me. It is hardly a big issue for Element though, I am sure they will sell through with their allocation regardless.

Firestorm took their time getting things up but all ordered now

Dark sphere was also really sluggish this morning, ordered it eventually though.