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2019/07/22 10:23:33
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Overread wrote: The real test is how GW will continue to support games like Bloodbowl and keep them current and popular without big model releases. That's going to be a lot easier though now that they've got lots of social media outputs; but its still going to be interesting to see how they do it.
Then again they've still a lot of AoS armies that can slip into Bloodbowl so there's a while yet.
Also lets not forget that hopefully GW's new factory comes online this year or next and that will expand GW's production considerably, esp for specialist games .
Blood Bowl is ALWAYS popular, they have dedicate community that make online game, and even go so far as creating 2 computer games. None of the other community had come even close to this.
But since I just remembered Cyanide leaked BB new edition I think they'll be staying for awhile.
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2019/07/22 13:01:47
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
In case anyone was wondering if the Warcry terrain can be mixed with the Azyrite ruins they can but ...
Ray Dranfield
@RayDranfield
I've been asked a couple of times if the #warcry ruins fit with the Azyrite ruins & yes they do. They don't have the same push-fit fitting though so you will have to glue them. The reason for the different fittings? So you can put 2 LH or RH pieces together for longer walls #AoS
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2019/07/22 13:47:16
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Overread wrote: The real test is how GW will continue to support games like Bloodbowl and keep them current and popular without big model releases. That's going to be a lot easier though now that they've got lots of social media outputs; but its still going to be interesting to see how they do it.
Then again they've still a lot of AoS armies that can slip into Bloodbowl so there's a while yet.
Also lets not forget that hopefully GW's new factory comes online this year or next and that will expand GW's production considerably, esp for specialist games .
I think the new factory may allow for some new SG capacity hopefully.
As to what they will do once every team is out, I don’t know.
I don’t see AoS being put in, that’s a completely different setting.
Yeah it’s easy enough to do and they can do whatever they want, but BB has quite the following as others have mentioned. Part of that is the setting, I’m just not sure they’d mess with that.
These games are releasing so slowly that maybe by the time they are done, a new edition and then just start re doing the teams if they don’t want to just stop releasing new teams which wouldn’t be too crazy after so many years by then..
2019/07/22 16:19:39
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
I've been asked a couple of times if the #warcry ruins fit with the Azyrite ruins & yes they do. They don't have the same push-fit fitting though so you will have to glue them. The reason for the different fittings? So you can put 2 LH or RH pieces together for longer walls #AoS
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2019/07/22 17:34:23
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
I think a big obstacle when it comes to making another Mordheim is that GW no longer supports converting like they used to. Every option in the rules must have a model. Which IMO is a dam shame and holds them back on multiple fronts.
Sasori wrote: I can really get behind how quick these matches are. Will be a nice change of pace instead of having to set aside 3ish hours for AOS games.
Just like old Necromunda, where it took longer for me and my friends to set up the cardstock terrain than actually play the game. We just had far too much fun with it .
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2019/07/22 21:09:32
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
NinthMusketeer wrote: I think a big obstacle when it comes to making another Mordheim is that GW no longer supports converting like they used to. Every option in the rules must have a model. Which IMO is a dam shame and holds them back on multiple fronts.
That’s not true for Necromunda, in fact only a fraction of the weapon choices actually have models for each gang. I suppose it’s true for GW main though.
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2019/07/23 04:20:25
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Just talked to the miniatures guy at my LGS. His GW distributor told him that the Warcry booster pack box (18 packs per) is a single print run. When they are out, there will be no more.
Moreover, the box does not come with 2 of each faction. It comes with 1 each of Idoneth, Flesh Eaters and Bonesplitters & 3 each of Stormcast, Nighthaunts and Gitz.
Henry R.
2019/07/23 05:07:01
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
callidusx3 wrote: Just talked to the miniatures guy at my LGS. His GW distributor told him that the Warcry booster pack box (18 packs per) is a single print run. When they are out, there will be no more.
I always thought the AoS factions were little more than an afterthought, but it seems they don't even amount to that lofty of an existence. I'm curious as hell as to how this game will go in the future.
Moreover, the box does not come with 2 of each faction. It comes with 1 each of Idoneth, Flesh Eaters and Bonesplitters & 3 each of Stormcast, Nighthaunts and Gitz.
That jives with the preorder numbers from Miniature Market. It looks some card packs have 50-60 left, while others are in the 30s, with Ironjaws, Flesh Eater Courts, and Bonesplitters basically already being sold out.
2019/07/23 05:21:09
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
I believe the game will get more support later, just like kill team has gotten expansions. The expansions will probably flesh out the units available to the non-chaos warbands which is good for a bunch of them as they only have one or two choices. That would mean new card decks for each faction would be coming and these current ones could become just temporary patches till the full sets are released.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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2019/07/23 10:20:05
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Are there any information about rules for non-choas warbands other than some random stuff at GW's page?
That's a scheme that you don't even now what are you PO?
2019/07/23 12:51:52
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Theophony wrote: I believe the game will get more support later, just like kill team has gotten expansions. The expansions will probably flesh out the units available to the non-chaos warbands which is good for a bunch of them as they only have one or two choices. That would mean new card decks for each faction would be coming and these current ones could become just temporary patches till the full sets are released.
I'd imagine the opposite with dedicated non chaos teams dropping these cards and the need for nom warcry kits altogether.
I don’t think they’re going to make sculpts for existing warbands here..
More Chaos yeah.
And some factions that don’t have times or support (like rogue traders / Inquisition and such).
Oh but some Stormcast too
2019/07/23 14:33:18
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Chopstick wrote: Then if the game is popular enough, we'll see GW make a compendium for them or release them as PDF 1 year from now when the new season hit.
To properly follow the Necromunda '17 model, they will need to sell quarterly books that expand the game for at least $30 USD each.
Then after they do that for about a year, they can compile everything, change the campaign system enough that players have to choose the original core book or the better, updated compilation.
The compilation can conveniently leave out some vital information like weapon descriptions and updated warband profiles. Those can be broken into a second book.
Sell both the warband book and the compilation book for around the cost of collecting the quarterly expansions.
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2019/07/23 14:42:08
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Danny76 wrote: I don’t think they’re going to make sculpts for existing warbands here..
On the contrary, it's the perfect place for it when/if they do an "Elites"/"Commanders" styled expansion. DoK don't have a dedicated Hag Queen kit, there's no dedicated Knight-Zephyros for the Vanguard or a Lord-Aquilor on foot, there's room for the Arch-Regent to get a general release, Idoneth could use a cheaper version of the Akhelian King or something between the Lochian Princes(the unit champions of the Akhelian Knight units) and the Kings, and so on and so forth.
I'm having a really hard time believing that the cards are a "one and done" thing. The Core Book doesn't include unit profiles that I saw from flipping through it at my LGS over the weekend, they're either included with the Warbands(Chaos) or these sets.
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2019/07/23 14:50:01
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
To properly follow the Necromunda '17 model, they will need to sell quarterly books that expand the game for at least $30 USD each.
I think we can all agree that Necromunda was handled extremely poorly, but Necromunda is Specialist Games, while Warcry is GW proper, and I think we'll see something closer to Kill Team's release schedule - about six months of releases followed by a big box or two, then basically nothing except a book or token release here and there.
2019/07/23 14:59:33
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Chopstick wrote: Then if the game is popular enough, we'll see GW make a compendium for them or release them as PDF 1 year from now when the new season hit.
To properly follow the Necromunda '17 model, they will need to sell quarterly books that expand the game for at least $30 USD each.
Then after they do that for about a year, they can compile everything, change the campaign system enough that players have to choose the original core book or the better, updated compilation.
The compilation can conveniently leave out some vital information like weapon descriptions and updated warband profiles. Those can be broken into a second book.
Sell both the warband book and the compilation book for around the cost of collecting the quarterly expansions.
They are different game made by different team, thus have different approach on expansion. Warcry would probably see a mix of both WU and KT release for expansion, with new band and book that expand all faction a little. They won't be getting as much book as Necromunda nor they would get a compendium, since KT had not gotten any compendium yet.
2019/07/23 15:21:27
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Danny76 wrote: I don’t think they’re going to make sculpts for existing warbands here..
On the contrary, it's the perfect place for it when/if they do an "Elites"/"Commanders" styled expansion. DoK don't have a dedicated Hag Queen kit, there's no dedicated Knight-Zephyros for the Vanguard or a Lord-Aquilor on foot, there's room for the Arch-Regent to get a general release, Idoneth could use a cheaper version of the Akhelian King or something between the Lochian Princes(the unit champions of the Akhelian Knight units) and the Kings, and so on and so forth.
I'm having a really hard time believing that the cards are a "one and done" thing. The Core Book doesn't include unit profiles that I saw from flipping through it at my LGS over the weekend, they're either included with the Warbands(Chaos) or these sets.
There’s a lot of models that are needed and could have been released for Kill Team, but they didn’t.
I don’t see why the cards make it look like there’d be more?
Each pack of cards is just a super cheap way to get a whole new faction in without having to produce models (and sell existing kits too).
And if they want to introduce 5 new non Chaos warbands. Well it’s just 5 packs of cards, which again sell themselves and potentially existing models too. For such little cost.
2019/07/23 17:14:48
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2019/07/23 18:01:19
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
Crimson wrote: I can't get over how stupid those turkeys look.
They're a Chaos-ified version of what the Velociraptor was believed to look like:
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/07/23 18:28:08
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video
I think the techies in Jurasic Park got it right - make the raptors people want not the ones that actually lived
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Mr Morden wrote: I think the techies in Jurasic Park got it right - make the raptors people want not the ones that actually lived
So make them look like Seraphon
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/07/23 19:13:10
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - new website live and how to play video