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2021/10/31 02:15:52
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's like some people haven't seen beefy farm girls before.
The spider cultists look cute (especially if they can be converted to add some guns), and I agree with HMBC that the star of the box is the mining terrain.
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2021/10/31 02:40:58
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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They are up to the shoulders. And then the sculptor's technical skill apparently ran out.
Which has been a long running problem when it comes specifically to female faces (and only female faces) and wargames.
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2021/10/31 03:01:20
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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More importantly, what’s this set going to cost
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2021/10/31 03:30:26
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Apparently 210 usd. Automatically Appended Next Post: I really hope there is more Warcry on the horizon. I would love to see it expand out of the Eightpoints and give us an opportunity to see what warbands across the realms could look like.
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2021/10/31 03:58:02
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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JWBS wrote:I don't think anyone is trying to say your fetish is wrong, they're just indicating a lack of interest, your mockery seems misplaced here.
Yet you fell right into it; the models aren't supposed to be attractive and evaluating them on those grounds while being oblivious to the double-standard applied is exactly what I am mocking. Automatically Appended Next Post: Voss wrote:
They are up to the shoulders. And then the sculptor's technical skill apparently ran out.
Which has been a long running problem when it comes specifically to female faces (and only female faces) and wargames.
I think it is worth withholding judgement on the faces because the studio paint job has seriously screwed up decent face sculpts before. A lot. If they actually look like that though I agree.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
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2021/10/31 05:02:09
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dread Master wrote:Apparently 210 usd.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
I really hope there is more Warcry on the horizon. I would love to see it expand out of the Eightpoints and give us an opportunity to see what warbands across the realms could look like.
Well, that was fun yet stupid optimism on my part. I really don’t need anything beyond my skaven anyway.
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2021/10/31 07:25:48
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Dunno, I'd personally consider them ugly women, about as much as some female bodybuilders I've seen, both in the internet and in real life, back when I was going to a gym. They also look like they'd use me as a toothpick, so I think they're good enough. Automatically Appended Next Post: Voss wrote: They are up to the shoulders. And then the sculptor's technical skill apparently ran out. Which has been a long running problem when it comes specifically to female faces (and only female faces) and wargames. That might have to do with the fact that most sculptors really don't have many experience sculpting females, specifically anything other than "regular" pretty ones.
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2021/10/31 08:24:32
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I guess the female Darkoath aren't unfixable. Not sure if they're worth the effort, but then again, GW doesn't exactly have many suitable stand-ins in the current range.
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2021/10/31 08:39:55
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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To be fair it's just GW painting their faces like gak again, because they couldn't paint a female face to save their life's
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/10/31 08:43:39
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Foxy Wildborne
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Besides being badly sculpted there's also the issue of being another generic marauder reboot nobody needed. Bad concept and bad execution makes for an all around fail. Spider guys are at least interesting but would benefit from losing the goofy masks.
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2021/10/31 08:46:15
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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lord_blackfang wrote:Besides being badly sculpted there's also the issue of being another generic marauder reboot nobody needed. Bad concept and bad execution makes for an all around fail. Spider guys are at least interesting but would benefit from losing the goofy masks.
Dunno, I'm not really fond of Chaos drow.
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2021/10/31 12:18:06
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I don't dislike the idea of female models. Actually I love them. I'm here waiting for GW to give me a proper female ogre tyrant model that is imposing and fearsome.
But those barbarian chicks are... the heads. Why? Why are they koopas out of the mario bros movie?
The witch is excellent.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2021/10/31 12:21:39
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Galas wrote:I don't dislike the idea of female models. Actually I love them. I'm here waiting for GW to give me a proper female ogre tyrant model that is imposing and fearsome.
But those barbarian chicks are... the heads. Why? Why are they koopas out of the mario bros movie?
The witch is excellent.
Because GW can't paint female faces to save their life. Just look at the Sisters of Battle range. They literally gave some a 5 'o clock shadow.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/10/31 12:25:55
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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No no, I know GW doesn't know how to paint female faces (or faces in general) and make perfectly fine heads into abominations.
But this is not a problem of the face but of the heads juts being way too small, and having tiny wasp waists that make no sense for burly barbarian women.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2021/10/31 12:29:02
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Galas wrote:No no, I know GW doesn't know how to paint female faces (or faces in general) and make perfectly fine heads into abominations.
But this is not a problem of the face but of the heads juts being way too small, and having tiny wasp waists that make no sense for burly barbarian women.
To be fair, if they didn't have wasp waists, would anyone be able to tell they're women with the way GW paints women?
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2021/10/31 13:11:08
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They don't have wasp waists, they have bloated upper torsos. That gives the impression that the midsection is more narrow than it should be.
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2021/10/31 13:22:56
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The face of the mini with the black facepaint looks especially small because of that facepaint.
I don't think the face on that mini is amazing by any means but a better paint job would bump it up from terrible to fine.
The leader of the Harrowdeep Stormcast has been much maligned but with a better paint job it's fine.
(Not my painting)
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2021/10/31 13:53:32
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Huge Bone Giant
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Galas wrote:No no, I know GW doesn't know how to paint female faces (or faces in general) and make perfectly fine heads into abominations.
But this is not a problem of the face but of the heads juts being way too small, and having tiny wasp waists that make no sense for burly barbarian women.
I don't think there is an anatomical problem in principle. Even a buff girl would have a comparably narrow waist because muscles there don't add much width. Not starved fashion model thin, but not massively bulked out either. As His Master's Voice points out, this is exaggerated by arm poses that require the back muscles that extend over the sides to flare out and add to the width of the upper body, thereby creating the impression that the waist is narrower than it really is. You'll find that this also works in favor of people arguing that they look like dudes since the buffed up waist creates less of a contrast with the hips, another area which only builds up moderate bulk through workout, leading into massively bulked out legs. This has a way of closing the gap between (idealized) male and female silhouette and at least if you scale them down to miniature size, it's not that easy to tell the difference anymore.
It's really quite cool when you think about it, the models looking too feminine and not feminine enough at the same time.
As for the heads, they're kind of realistically sized. If you expect the Games Workshop trademark of overly exaggerated heads and see these new models, it's easy to call out pinhead syndrome. But seeing as how GW has scaled head size back over the years (at least partially anyway), combined with releasing more female models that are sculpted to look smaller than their male counterparts to help get the feminine appearance across, I don't find the new Darkoath unrealistic. It's mostly that GW still has a lot of exaggeration in their sculpts. The style is still firmly super buff dudes with humongous weapons. Introducing less exaggerated parts into the mix that have traditionally not been as small, especially prominent ones like heads that naturally draw the look to them, has a way of looking wrong when it's technically the other way around.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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2021/10/31 14:41:01
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Dakka Veteran
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Bwahahahahaha. Is this sculptor being paid by the disappointment? I'm surprised the people who are into that sort of thing are defending this, I would have thought they'd be the most let down by the terrible job they did making muscular women.
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2021/10/31 14:46:23
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Clearly they have been mutated by chaos... Especially the one on the left.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2021/10/31 14:50:18
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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warboss wrote:Clearly they have been mutated by chaos... Especially the one on the left.
I think she just bit into a lemon.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/10/31 14:54:05
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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frankelee wrote:Bwahahahahaha. Is this sculptor being paid by the disappointment? I'm surprised the people who are into that sort of thing are defending this, I would have thought they'd be the most let down by the terrible job they did making muscular women.
Up to the neck, they look to be reasonable sculpts - I'll reserve judgement on the heads until someone else has had hold of them, but the head/necks do look odd in these pictures.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
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Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2021/10/31 14:56:25
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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The bag of lemons must be hanging from a tree to build up and stretch her neck like criminals do when training pitbulls for illegal dogfights.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2021/10/31 15:38:40
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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The shoulders on several of the female models are just too wide. Seriously. Any debate over hyper muscled or realistically muscled aside those shoulders are too wide. I have NO PROBLEM with muscular warrior women. Seriously. In fact I now feel morally compelled to make a set of barbarian females JUST to prove it can be done well. No offense intended toward the artists who worked on this set. I understand what they were going for and they were also working within the GW aesthetic which as it's own rules that must be followed in order to maintain the " Warhammer " look. But I just don't think worked out well for these female models.
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2021/10/31 15:46:57
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Violent Enforcer
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IMHO: the only thing looking really off is the really long neck of the woman to the left - or actually her right shoulder joint not working properly... When raising your arm above your head the shoulder muscle ought to contact with (and cover) the ear - and on this mini it doesent even reach the cheek. Easy fix though.
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2021/10/31 17:30:49
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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lord_blackfang wrote:Besides being badly sculpted there's also the issue of being another generic marauder reboot nobody needed. Bad concept and bad execution makes for an all around fail. Spider guys are at least interesting but would benefit from losing the goofy masks.
We did need a generic marauder reboot--that's what we've been missing. The other warbands all have specific themes, something that is just plain tribesmen was absolutely a hole in the range. The current marauder kit is basically a joke at this point, these provide something of a replacement.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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2021/10/31 17:57:43
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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solkan wrote:It's like some people haven't seen beefy farm girls before.
Most of us don't raise crops in Pripyat.
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2021/10/31 18:01:28
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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Yeah?
Coz I don't see nobody laughin'.
But yeah, the idea that nobody needed models for the regular northern barbarians that have had a presence in Warhammer for decades is questionable.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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2021/10/31 18:06:55
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94
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2021/10/31 18:17:31
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Red Harvest reveal page 94 preorder 6th November
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A release this fast to me sound like something went wrong with another product and they had to fill the gap.
Only one day since they showed Red Harvest off and they haven't talked about those 40k books before either as far as I remember right?
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