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BrianDavion wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Anyone else notice we've got a preview of a (to me at least) previously unknown unit?

Spoiler:

It's the Thing-Skewer Whatever-Bow, it was previewed ages ago

musta missed it

The Killbow was one of four additional units (two per faction) GW added to their early Dominion preview:



In case you're interested in checking out the Warhammer Community post in question:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/29/warhammer-preview-online-unboxing-dominion/

jesus there's gonna be a TON of stormcast releases... digging that chariot though

Too bad none of the other factions have figured out that just making a bigger bow with lotsa spikes on it can instantly end all their issues with enemy monsters.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Too bad none of the other factions have figured out that just making a bigger bow with lotsa spikes on it can instantly end all their issues with enemy monsters.

It's a ballista, orruks are hardly the only faction with seige engines

BrianDavion wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Too bad none of the other factions have figured out that just making a bigger bow with lotsa spikes on it can instantly end all their issues with enemy monsters.

It's a ballista, orruks are hardly the only faction with seige engines

Yes, but do they have Killbows? Sound engineering is no substitute for orky spirit and anyone who says otherwise doesn't have a clue how to make things proppa killy. It's a scientific fact.

BrianDavion wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Too bad none of the other factions have figured out that just making a bigger bow with lotsa spikes on it can instantly end all their issues with enemy monsters.

It's a ballista, orruks are hardly the only faction with seige engines

So which other siege engine hits a Mega-Gargant for 12 wounds? What did the krule boys put on it to make it work so much batter than any other weapon in the world?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Too bad none of the other factions have figured out that just making a bigger bow with lotsa spikes on it can instantly end all their issues with enemy monsters.

It's a ballista, orruks are hardly the only faction with seige engines

So which other siege engine hits a Mega-Gargant for 12 wounds? What did the krule boys put on it to make it work so much batter than any other weapon in the world?

Two bows. It’s got both the horizontal and vertical bows for double the efficiency.

Actually right now artillery is sort of rare. A good few armies lost their artillery (dwarves shocking lost almost if not all of it!) in the transition and many newer ones don't have any yet.

 AduroT wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Too bad none of the other factions have figured out that just making a bigger bow with lotsa spikes on it can instantly end all their issues with enemy monsters.

It's a ballista, orruks are hardly the only faction with seige engines

So which other siege engine hits a Mega-Gargant for 12 wounds? What did the krule boys put on it to make it work so much batter than any other weapon in the world?

Two bows. It’s got both the horizontal and vertical bows for double the efficiency.

This logic is sound.

So sob battalions 2-4 mega gargants for one drop or enchantment and 2-3 mancrusher unit & 0-1 big one for one drop or swift. And core so usable if battlepack says core battalions okay

Grand strategy won't likely replace "don't get tabled" as this one fails anyway if you get tabled top of 5 anyway. Battle tactics indeed just new options in game. New books advantaged over old just with that

My brother reports our local GW has nurgle daemons and beastmen both on the "last chance to buy" shelf.

Is that a "Last Chance to Buy we are discontinuing" shelf or a "Last Chance we aren't getting these they are going direct order only/I just want to sell things that haven't sold in ages and might not restock for a while"


Cause the GW main website doesn't list any of that as last chance and only has things listed that we'd expect (Dominion stuff, AoS last edition stuff and the odd Broken Realms limited edition book)

 Overread wrote:
Is that a "Last Chance to Buy we are discontinuing" shelf or a "Last Chance we aren't getting these they are going direct order only/I just want to sell things that haven't sold in ages and might not restock for a while"


Cause the GW main website doesn't list any of that as last chance and only has things listed that we'd expect (Dominion stuff, AoS last edition stuff and the odd Broken Realms limited edition book)

Both but usually a "not going to be on the store shelves again" so might be direct only or might be discontinued.

I doubt the whole of the beastmen and nurgle daemon lines are going oop or direct only though so it's likely for repack before a new release

Most of the BoC range is already Direct Only, but leaving them with no in-store representation would be amusingly in line with their traditional neglected status

Conversely, there's an expectation for an updated Doombull, Jabberslythe, and Bullgors in the next AoS battlebox, so it might be a good sign

tneva82 wrote:
So sob battalions 2-4 mega gargants for one drop or enchantment and 2-3 mancrusher unit & 0-1 big one for one drop or swift. And core so usable if battlepack says core battalions okay

Grand strategy won't likely replace "don't get tabled" as this one fails anyway if you get tabled top of 5 anyway. Battle tactics indeed just new options in game. New books advantaged over old just with that

It's only an advantage if the new options are better. Also, we can't judge based on this due to the context of the SoB army; they are unique in their structure and these core battalions just give them the same access to bonuses every other army already has.

Sometimes WD buffs have been undeserved advantages, more often they have been options that open up new ways to run an army (see the various GSG subtractions, for example) without being overpowered. It makes sense to reserve judgement.

Options are always good, if nothing else to cover situations normal ones aren't possible.

Even if it onlv happens 1　game out of 100 it stilj is buff since you lose nothing here. Anybody claiming otherwise just plain sucks in aos

For battalions there's slim chance new books won't have ones but based on gw's design princlipses that's slim. Gw loves it's bloat and invalidating old ones and replacing with nearly identical system is tried & tested system for gw.

Oh boy, anyone who disagrees with this guy just plain sucks at AoS! Better listen up, he's clearly an authority on the matter

 lord_blackfang wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Too bad none of the other factions have figured out that just making a bigger bow with lotsa spikes on it can instantly end all their issues with enemy monsters.

It's a ballista, orruks are hardly the only faction with seige engines

So which other siege engine hits a Mega-Gargant for 12 wounds? What did the krule boys put on it to make it work so much batter than any other weapon in the world?

I mean, if we're ignoring the to-hit roll, the to-wound roll, rend, etc, Arkanaut Ironclads can do that with Volley Cannon, Shrapnel shell Great Cannon, Aethershot carbines, etc... and it has all of those! So it could do like 36 wounds to a mega-gargant! For something more similar to what I predict the unit's price to be, a Helblaster Volley gun has a decent shot at it, too. A rapid fire celestar ballista can also do quite a few wounds to a Mega-gargant. If you roll a 1 for the power of your warp lightning cannon and you have the "more-more warp power!" or whatever ability activated you do 12 mortal wounds. Mortek Crawler can do up to 15 damage... or slay outright with a cauldron of torment.

I dunno, looks like a lot of siege engines can do similar damage, if we ignore all of the unknown factors about the Orruk skewer ballista and sensationalize the damage of the attack against its optimal target.

Rihgu wrote:

I dunno, looks like a lot of siege engines can do similar damage, if we ignore all of the unknown factors about the Orruk skewer ballista and sensationalize the damage of the attack against its optimal target.

Not actually optimal as you run into damage cap. Though not a bad target.

Statistically the target needs 30 wounds to hit cap, so what is the optimal target in your opinion?

Well something gone awry and gw abandoned battletome preorder in august they said and even hinted just week or two earlier :(

So, no battletomes in August, no mention of chaos in October and the launch article has been edited to obscure "soon" and "this year" comments.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/03/warhammer-preview-online-dominion-celebration/

Taking so long, I wonder what they will do with this year's Battleforces...

And a Death's Spooktacular Extravaganza for october would be a massive win.

tneva82 wrote:
Well something gone awry and gw abandoned battletome preorder in august they said and even hinted just week or two earlier :(

yeah that is annoying. this week is pretty empty too so gotta wonder if their shipment was late.

Some speculation going around issue is wih app which gw wants out before books. If true weird priority

tneva82 wrote:
Some speculation going around issue is wih app which gw wants out before books. If true weird priority

very weird, on the other hand if they put out the books before the app is ready it could make it difficult as the codes won't be in the book.

BrianDavion wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Some speculation going around issue is wih app which gw wants out before books. If true weird priority

very weird, on the other hand if they put out the books before the app is ready it could make it difficult as the codes won't be in the book.

I think the opposite is true, they've set expectations on app release scedules, book release schedules and then there's a community expectation as to quality.

Release the books with the codes and they'll refer you to an app/website that doesn't exist, then they have to explain to people their app team is over worked and they have no concept of schedules and how much work is involved.

Would they rather slightly irk people with a delayed book or look stupid on the technology front is likely the choice they made. Given they have a different flagship app coming out this week that they need to be perfect, I'd guess they were more afraid of the latter.

Frustrating to put it mildly, as i have a couple of hundred waiting to drop on the Stormcast. But i guess it's another week at minimum to get through some more stuff. The artbook looks nice at least.

This bait and switch on the release has wound me up more than it should do.

Why not just start this weeks pre order article with an explanation of what is going on and an expected release date?

Maybe the second print run of Kill Team is to blame?