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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder if GW is so reluctant to admit something went wrong because it would upset shareholders or w/e

except they did admit something went wrong, noted that "not even the stormcast eternals are immune to global disruptions" which is really all they need to say.

There does seem to be some problem with the printed materials as the Gravelords book has been unavailable for quite a while, which is odd for a new(ish) release. Probably on the same boat as the new books

Dudeface wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Yeah they all but spelled out "preorder on the 28th" with that statement; if it was going to be earlier they would have said *release* was in August.

But if it gets delayed? Good! I have been wishing for some time now that they would slow the heck down to allow for filling orders of existing product.

Again, no problem with a delay. It might be beneficial for them to (literally) take stock as you say.

But the communication has been dire and as much I've been accused of white knighting god knows how many times on here, GW needed to do better when they commit to a release and then scrub the evidence after failing.

True that.

 endtransmission wrote:
There does seem to be some problem with the printed materials as the Gravelords book has been unavailable for quite a while, which is odd for a new(ish) release. Probably on the same boat as the new books

this is not uncommen, new books being out of stock after the first for months happens often
people just don't recognise it as after the initial hype of the release not many bother looking at those

in addition, everything from China is "late" with a lockdown in the harbour cities that happend a month ago

in 2nd Edi, with digital books available it alsowas no problem anyway, now with the need of a physical book that is not available or out of stock, we will see how it turns out

 kodos wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
There does seem to be some problem with the printed materials as the Gravelords book has been unavailable for quite a while, which is odd for a new(ish) release. Probably on the same boat as the new books

this is not uncommen, new books being out of stock after the first for months happens often
people just don't recognise it as after the initial hype of the release not many bother looking at those

in addition, everything from China is "late" with a lockdown in the harbour cities that happend a month ago

in 2nd Edi, with digital books available it alsowas no problem anyway, now with the need of a physical book that is not available or out of stock, we will see how it turns out

makes one wonder if covid will have GW reconsider their backwards "screw digital" mentality for 40K 10E and AOS 4tth.

I'd say over all their "physical books only with an app code" has been a colossal failure.

BrianDavion wrote:
I'd say over all their "physical books only with an app code" has been a colossal failure.

I would agree to that. I only want the books for the fluff, so the digital versions that are game material only is useless to me. I would have preferred to buy digital. Alas...

Is there a second hand market for buying/selling just the digital codes?

Coupve tidbits on new battletomes on whtv battle report. Hammers of sigmar 6+ ward near objectives and exploding on death with thunderstrike armour on 5+. Assumlng they didn't misplay it. Would be funny

The exploding on 5+ with thunderstrike is already a thing per the rules we have from Dominion.

Rihgu wrote:
The exploding on 5+ with thunderstrike is already a thing per the rules we have from Dominion.

Dominion it's extra dice, ie 4 dice for 3w model.

Very common mistake people make which is why it would be funny if these guys did same.

(add one to number of dice you roll. Not add one to roll. Also it's on 6, not 6+ which is how gw writes if modifiers can affect)

Oh, that is very, very strange. Why would it change in between Dominion and the battletome? Very strange.

Rihgu wrote:
Oh, that is very, very strange. Why would it change in between Dominion and the battletome? Very strange.

Same reason new necron gun changed completely between launch box and codex. It's gw

(that gun went from meh, maybe usable with certain dynasty to stable in necron warriors).

So from 40k experience i don't treat any domitus rule as written in stone so certainly possible it changes but we just have their words to go. They didn't show those rules and whc has made mistakes before so no reason these couldn't. Odds are decent though it changes.

Necron my will be done also got improved in launch box and then even more restrictive than previous codex pre launch box in new codex.

Looks like the FAQ update is coming. Soulblight Gravelords August update (From TGA) it's labelled August and there are only a few days left in August.

Oh, zombies got buffed. They needed that, obviously. *eyeroll*

Nothing new in zombies except maybe can'j put in melee unless already were and that's not buff.

Max size was already there beforb

If it was they wouldn't have needed an eratta to make it that way. Some people misinterpreted and/or 'misinterpreted' the rules to justify it but without eratta zombies could not go above starting size in third.

Uuh previous faq of soulblight had "yes" for that specific. It still has. As per soulblight faq you can go above　starting size.

But yea let"s　pretend faq available on whc right now doesn't exist and this is completely new thing. Just so you can complain.

tneva82 wrote:
Uuh previous faq of soulblight had "yes" for that specific. It still has. As per soulblight faq you can go above　starting size.

But yea let"s　pretend faq available on whc right now doesn't exist and this is completely new thing. Just so you can complain.

New FAQ says the ability can take it above it's 'maximum size'. The old FAQ only said it could go over it's 'starting size'.

Zombies were pretty tasty prior to this. Now they've the potential to be nuts good.

 Ghaz wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Uuh previous faq of soulblight had "yes" for that specific. It still has. As per soulblight faq you can go above　starting size.

But yea let"s　pretend faq available on whc right now doesn't exist and this is completely new thing. Just so you can complain.

New FAQ says the ability can take it above it's 'maximum size'. The old FAQ only said it could go over it's 'starting size'.

Maximum size for them per unit was 40, right?

tneva82 wrote:
Uuh previous faq of soulblight had "yes" for that specific. It still has. As per soulblight faq you can go above　starting size.

But yea let"s　pretend faq available on whc right now doesn't exist and this is completely new thing. Just so you can complain.

Nope. But hey, let's pretend rule 1 doesn't exist just so you can express this like it is hugely unreasonable. Even if it DID say zombies could go over the starting size, that would just mean I had misread. Big deal, no need to get salty about it.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Uuh previous faq of soulblight had "yes" for that specific. It still has. As per soulblight faq you can go above　starting size.

But yea let"s　pretend faq available on whc right now doesn't exist and this is completely new thing. Just so you can complain.

New FAQ says the ability can take it above it's 'maximum size'. The old FAQ only said it could go over it's 'starting size'.

Maximum size for them per unit was 40, right?

60. 20 with 2 reinforcements.

FAQ update is live

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/

Balewind Vortex and Monstrous Arcanum return - vortex is now legends.

Ah finally. Core one in german got leaked earlier

 DaveC wrote:
FAQ update is live

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/

Balewind Vortex and Monstrous Arcanum return - vortex is now legends.

They SUPER Nerfed the Awakened Wyldwoods. They can only be set up one at a time again, no more three small ones. They have to be set up 3” from all models. They no longer damage enemy models when casting spells, instead just give a bonus to the roll to cause damage during the charge phase of wizards around around. They Completely Removed Navigate The Realmroots. They are back to letting Sylvaneth shoot thru them again though.

Loreseekers back to unique as expected, no mount trait duplication, archaon nerfed a bit, horrors got new warscroll(basically immune to battleshock as splittrng models don't count as slain but can"t bring back with rules that bring back slain models). Lots of stuff

Stacking multiple saves is back! Ward Saves are things you roll Before you are allocated wounds. You are allowed to roll saves that say you make them when you allocate wounds after you make a ward save. Now you get Save, Ward, and Allocate saves.

Yea that's causing fuss. It's still possible gw screwed up and they meant stuff like mannfred's ignore 1st damage each phase but we'll see. Until then amu'et of destiny/bless + previous damage ignore rules combo is here

So a Tzeentch army can't take a Gaunt Summoner on Disc because... (checks notes) ...he has the TZEENTCH keyword.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
So a Tzeentch army can't take a Gaunt Summoner on Disc because... (checks notes) ...he has the TZEENTCH keyword.

They should have just put him in both army's pitched battle profiles with different point costs, like with BoC.