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Legion of the First Prince is also missing, haha. No glory in fighting Be'lakor, I guess.

Beasts of chaos becoming beasts of destruction????? Following Kragnos now.

All of the major factions have the option to add one single Beastie unit in every X number of your own faction units.

Rihgu wrote:
Legion of the First Prince is also missing, haha. No glory in fighting Be'lakor, I guess.

Be'lly is part of Slaves to Darkness. This ain't 40K.

 CMLR wrote:
All of the major factions have the option to add one single Beastie unit in every X number of your own faction units.

Rihgu wrote:
Legion of the First Prince is also missing, haha. No glory in fighting Be'lakor, I guess.

Be'lly is part of Slaves to Darkness. This ain't 40K.

But Be'lakor's army, Legion of the First Prince, is not a Slaves to Darkness army (or any of the other armies listed).

Even though he's a more recent release, I could understand Be'lakor's special army slipping through the net more than I can Beasts of Chaos...

Rihgu wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
All of the major factions have the option to add one single Beastie unit in every X number of your own faction units.

Rihgu wrote:
Legion of the First Prince is also missing, haha. No glory in fighting Be'lakor, I guess.

Be'lly is part of Slaves to Darkness. This ain't 40K.

But Be'lakor's army, Legion of the First Prince, is not a Slaves to Darkness army (or any of the other armies listed).

Except he has the keywords SLAVES TO DARKNESS, and is safe to expect his Legion's rule to be part of the 3E StD BT.

 CMLR wrote:

Rihgu wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
All of the major factions have the option to add one single Beastie unit in every X number of your own faction units.

Rihgu wrote:
Legion of the First Prince is also missing, haha. No glory in fighting Be'lakor, I guess.

Be'lly is part of Slaves to Darkness. This ain't 40K.

But Be'lakor's army, Legion of the First Prince, is not a Slaves to Darkness army (or any of the other armies listed).

Except he has the keywords SLAVES TO DARKNESS, and is safe to expect his Legion's rule to be part of the 3E StD BT.

I think that's a pretty big stretch, considering the ONLY warscrolls in the entire Legion of the First Prince army to have Slaves to Darkness keyword are Be'lakor, Soul Grinder, Furies, and Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount.

Would be weird, but not impossible, to include it in a battletome that it has almost nothing in common with.

It could be as simple as BoC getting a rename. Or because BoC were always around, rather than being one of the factions that cropped up at the end of the Age of Myth.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It could be as simple as BoC getting a rename.

Warhorn Doomhoofs! Bloodgreed Hornslayers! Deathbull Bloodsows!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It could be as simple as BoC getting a rename.

Warhorn Doomhoofs! Bloodgreed Hornslayers! Deathbull Bloodsows!

OverPosted LameJokes

Rihgu wrote:


I think that's a pretty big stretch, considering the ONLY warscrolls in the entire Legion of the First Prince army to have Slaves to Darkness keyword are Be'lakor, Soul Grinder, Furies, and Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount.

Would be weird, but not impossible, to include it in a battletome that it has almost nothing in common with.

I know Mega-Gargants have a handful of warscrolls, but that's not the point of the Legion, more when its battlelines are shared with another four factions.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
OverPosted LameJokes

Whatever you say...

This will be the....5th time? buying back into stormcasts lol. Either the game was just boring, the army was too OP, or the aesthetics bugged me enough to sell them. I really really like the greatsword infantry and the big hammer bois. And Bastian is awesome looking. Solid range update all around.

Seems like they tightened up the rules even further from 2nd edition. Curious to give it a try.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It could be as simple as BoC getting a rename.

Warhorn Doomhoofs! Bloodgreed Hornslayers! Deathbull Bloodsows!

OverPosted LameJokes

To each their own, I thought it was funny

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It could be as simple as BoC getting a rename.

Warhorn Doomhoofs! Bloodgreed Hornslayers! Deathbull Bloodsows!

OverPosted LameJokes

Keep Harlequins in 40k threads where they belong, please.

That's 'Jestweave Chromaneth' in AoS speak sir!

I think it has more a link to the background than anything else, since Beasts of Chaos in AoS aren't actually following the dark gods in general and those who do are usually despised by their own kind as "not being true beasts". Can see the "marked" beasts of chaos being included in the list of factions.

The "ancient evil" in the Quest is clearly talking about the pantheon of Chaos. Most of the beast tribes don't actually follow them in AoS.

Sarouan wrote:
I think it has more a link to the background than anything else, since Beasts of Chaos in AoS aren't actually following the dark gods in general and those who do are usually despised by their own kind as "not being true beasts". Can see the "marked" beasts of chaos being included in the list of factions.

The "ancient evil" in the Quest is clearly talking about the pantheon of Chaos. Most of the beast tribes don't actually follow them in AoS.

that'd be my guess for the reasoning, assuming that GW didn't just forget them, regarding bel'akor and co, I think it's worth noting Bel'akor's force is NOT listed as a chaos army in the 3.0 core rulebook, so chances are it's going to be part of STD 3.0

the quest rules are part of the narrative PTG rules so house ruling one way or another loclly isn't going to be a big issue

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/09/these-warscrolls-show-how-dangerous-the-kruleboyz-are-at-all-ranges/

Breakaboss on Mirebute sounds like a lot of fun.

Killbow is a lot less threatening than I already expected.

 CMLR wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/09/these-warscrolls-show-how-dangerous-the-kruleboyz-are-at-all-ranges/

Breakaboss on Mirebute sounds like a lot of fun.

This preview does a great job highlighting what I love about Warhammer. The rules are a bit outside what one would really consider balanced thanks to how inconsistent they are, but that itself feeds into the narrative theme so well. The concept of a cruel overseer wounding a troll to motivate it, knowing the troll can regenerate, is a great cinematic image. And one that fits perfectly within the army. A massive ballista meant for killing monsters doing (a random amount of) extra damage based on the enemy's wounds characteristic is much along the same lines. And the rules look fun.

I also hope the concept of having a sensible amount of crew models on war machines continues, my immersion gets really stretched by three skaven pushing around an entire WLC. And here it is extra good since it lets grots fill out the role they play in orc society on the battlefield while still letting players just utilize orc units.

Glad to see counterplay to ward saves getting more support. Gotrek will not be happy!


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 CMLR wrote:
Killbow is a lot less threatening than I already expected.

In the shooty sub-faction it is; 27" range hitting on a rerollable 2+. That is where I have an issue; the model is obviously worth a fair bit more points inside that subfaction. So it will be OP there or UP everywhere else.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

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 CMLR wrote:
Killbow is a lot less threatening than I already expected.

In the shooty sub-faction it is; 27" range hitting on a rerollable 2+. That is where I have an issue; the model is obviously worth a fair bit more points inside that subfaction. So it will be OP there or UP everywhere else.

That reroll aptitude only works the first battle round. It won't be enough to be OP.

Whoops, missed that detail! I retract my statement, thank you for the correction.

Metawatch with the rising of the Gargants and the chariot is not as cool rulewise, but I'm satisfied with the Knight-Judicator

 CMLR wrote:
Metawatch with the rising of the Gargants and the chariot is not as cool rulewise, but I'm satisfied with the archer

looking at the chariot, do folks figure it'll be better with the spear or the archer?

It's got good ogor charge and lots of rend. Melee is where strength is over couple pot shots. Can be nasty model depending on cost.

tneva82 wrote:
It's got good ogor charge and lots of rend. Melee is where strength is over couple pot shots. Can be nasty model depending on cost.

so you figure spear is proably best?

tneva82 wrote:
It's got good ogor charge and lots of rend. Melee is where strength is over couple pot shots. Can be nasty model depending on cost.

There are no ogors on this release.

 CMLR wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
It's got good ogor charge and lots of rend. Melee is where strength is over couple pot shots. Can be nasty model depending on cost.

There are no ogors on this release.

Tneva82 is referring the the ability ogors have where on the charge they roll a number of d6 equal to the charge roll, and for each 4+(monsters) or 6+(non monsters) they do a mortal wound.

BrianDavion wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
It's got good ogor charge and lots of rend. Melee is where strength is over couple pot shots. Can be nasty model depending on cost.

so you figure spear is proably best?

That's what I'm thinking. Even if this thing was, let's say, 80 points, it wouldn't be worth sacrificing the extra close combat damage for the sake of dealing a single weak ranged hit each turn.

That other guy, though? That's a good (but probably expensive) harassing unit. I especially like his GDI Ion Cannon ability

 CMLR wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
It's got good ogor charge and lots of rend. Melee is where strength is over couple pot shots. Can be nasty model depending on cost.

There are no ogors on this release.

Ogor charge is term used for roll # of dices to your charge roll and for each x+ mw.

Largely introduced to game by ogors.who need to spend like 300-400pts to do on 4's. This will be lot more efficient mw charger.