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zamerion wrote:
There were rumors about idoneth vs fireslayers?

Oh I hope so. Fyreslayers are in desperate need of a second wave and Idoneth didn't even get a new book during second ed.

As much as a second wave Fyreslayers need price cuts (obviously in stealth-reboxing form but whatever); the core of the army is in a $60/10 and a $40/5 infantry kit coupled with a handful of $35 direct-only characters, and each of those amounts to the 100-160 point range. The start collecting box made building an army at least plausible but still wildly impractical.

A second wave containing anything with a decent price-to-points ratio would go a long way, but absurd pricing on the core of the army will hold things back as long as it stays that way.

You'll take your one hero model and you'll like it.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
As much as a second wave Fyreslayers need price cuts (obviously in stealth-reboxing form but whatever); the core of the army is in a $60/10 and a $40/5 infantry kit coupled with a handful of $35 direct-only characters, and each of those amounts to the 100-160 point range. The start collecting box made building an army at least plausible but still wildly impractical.

A second wave containing anything with a decent price-to-points ratio would go a long way, but absurd pricing on the core of the army will hold things back as long as it stays that way.

Yeah, some of the early AOS pricing is bizzare.

I'd really like to see an expanded Fyreslayer range. I'd seriously consider getting into them if there is more available. The range is just too limited to me right now.

 Arbitrator wrote:
You'll take your one hero model and you'll like it.

That's a distinct possibility, but it's hard to say. GW also has a vested interest in expanding factions to sell new models. Fyrslyrs have a lot of room for growth. They basically still exist as a mini faction made for the release version of AoS that has slept through the game's growth in the past half decade.

Maybe it's not entirely bad they languished for so long. Initially they were little more than a small portion of the old Dwarf army parted out and given a spin. Since then GW has figured out a lot better what they want out of the Age of Sigmar fluff and the models. Provided they get a larger model expansion, they might get something that is not limited by old perceptions of what a dwarf or a slayer is supposed to be and instead get models that appropriately reflect their character in the actual AoS setting.

Taken from the WH community page about the Chaos and Eldar battle box…

“ If you’re a fan of Warhammer Age of Sigmar, we will have a major reveal coming on Monday, pitting two allies of Order against one another in a battle of the elements.”

Gotta be Idoneth and Fireslayers I reckon.

1 faction I have zero interest in playing(fyreslayers. Models), 1 I have mild interest into but both that I'm hoping for new codex to make the books bit less extreme and annoying to face. In a way hoping for nerf in ways but enough buffs that it's not nerf as such but sidegrade giving less frustrating opposition.

Tough unit(4+ ward, 2 wounds), always strike first, hit like a brick is not exactly most interactive units.

Similarly 2+ unrendable is pretty damn frustrating if you can't spam mortals. And unit that casually deals 60+ damage to monster(faced that) is something that is easy to balance.

But have enjoyed the first 3 battle tomes so have hopes for these ones too. Tone down the worst extremes. Doesn't have to be overall nerf in external balance either as you can lose some of the power but get otherways compensated.

And the only way fyreslayers could appeal for me would be for army to turn into more of elite army reducing model count(tons of duplications on those mono poses leads to dull looking army...) and make volkite berserkers playable(making start collecting feasible way to build army).

If it's berserker spam then it's a) bloody expensive army b) bloody boring looking with those mono pose models being spammed.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/27/an-ancient-grudge-boils-over-in-fury-of-the-deep-the-next-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-battlebox/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=warhammer-age-of-sigmar&utm_content=furydeepreveal27122021&fbclid=IwAR0YVe2I4kMQLfUPqe_HApIGuSc43Txonv9iv2ezztXF9-nDRszcJOVSVNQ

'Have a new character each and update done' box.
Congrats?

That beard... ye gads.

I LOVE THAT AKHELIAN THRALLMASTER!

I want two boxes. Is two boxes too many? Maybe three!

Let me be the first to say *yawn*

Also it wouldn't be a surprise for the box to cost more than others before as there are quite a lot of models in it.

Fury of the Deep has 230€ of models not counting the two new characters compared to the latest Vs-Boxset Shadow Throne which had 163€ of models not counting the two new characters. That one was light on models but even compared to the one before Piety and Pain had 183.5€ of models not counting the new characters.

So either they are giving us a bigger discount or it will have a bigger price tag

Both are nice looking characters. Hopefully that blurb at the end about more news in early 2022 is some more units and not just the battletomes/rules.

Is this your card!


Also:

The soul-hunting Idoneth Deepkin are escalating their raids on the coastal Fyreslayer stronghold of Ryftmar.

Age of Ryftmar.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
That beard... ye gads.

Especially when the Runemaster has a really nicely defined beard sculpt.

The box of hideously overpriced basic infantry. It better have a better discount than usual or there's no point.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The box of hideously overpriced basic infantry. It better have a better discount than usual or there's no point.

What's the resale value of the half you don't want going to be? Fyreslayers have always been AoS' least popular army and not many IDK players will be thinking "boy I wish I had 20 more Namarti."

How absolutely lame. A new HQ is the last thing these two armies needed, and they need a lot.

The artwork of the fyreslayer does not match the model. Different beard, etc. Also, I don't blame them for not doing the "axe over the head" pose, given the mohawk.

I want to like the fyreslayer, but he's just so bleh

Meh.

I forgot Fyreslayers even existed.

So everyone that predicted the look of the new idoneth character was correct, except this ones a dude

Gotta be a new member on the sculpting team. No other explanation for the Flamekeeper. Can't all be gryph-hounds, I guess.

Thrallmaster alright, but looks a bit B-teamy too compared to the other Deepkin heroes

Hopefully the news is the long awaited second wave for each of them

Even as someone who did 2 editions as a Fyreslayer player, I'm underwhelmed.

I don't think there is a Fyreslayer player out there who said : "You know what? We need more Hero characters to fill out the army."

Granted, the article does possibly allude to more coming for both IDK and FS:

Fury of the Deep is due in early 2022, and there’s more news about salty sea-aelves and sizzling duardin coming.

Probably just rules for the two characters, but I'll hold on to a little bit of hope for more FS infantry and some more cool things for IDK players.

 nels1031 wrote:
Even as someone who did 2 editions as a Fyreslayer player, I'm underwhelmed.

I don't think there is a Fyreslayer player out there who said : "You know what? We need more Hero characters to fill out the army."

Granted, the article does possibly allude to more coming for both IDK and FS:

Fury of the Deep is due in early 2022, and there’s more news about salty sea-aelves and sizzling duardin coming.

Probably just rules for the two characters, but I'll hold on to a little bit of hope for more FS infantry and some more cool things for IDK players.

I'm thinking they mean Battletomes, actually

Wow, that dwarf is not good. Pretty much par to course for the fwuyreslayer, who s models are horrific for the most part. Shame since i like their concept.

This box screams disaster. Id be surprised if it sell out, unless they made a very small amount of them

Voss wrote:
'Have a new character each and update done' box.
Congrats?

Doesn’t it say more for then in the new year in the article?

Probably only new codexes

Is anyone else tired of these box releases?

Here have two new characters (I have Idoneth, so I really want the new fella) and then a bunch of stuff you already have and don't need. Like, just release the flippin model. Please.

The Thrallmaster is cool, definitely like him. The Dwarf is pretty subpar, which sucks because I feel like Fyreslayers need a total revamp. They're just such a boring army aesthetic wise. I think it'd be awesome if they had some kind of Elemental creatures that they summon, like "Magmapyre Flamehearts" or some such. But as is it's just a bunch of naked dwarves with some weird volcano dragons.

I'd much rather have Longbeards.