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Scottywan82 wrote: That has to be the limited version with the army set.
Is it? I don't pay much attention to AoS books, but most of GW's 'limited edition' books these days are usually exactly the same but with the brand overlays removed from the art.
Or something similar- with the Thondia book they just took out the red from the top, shrank the logo and gave the sigil a color gradient.
I strongly suspect so. It matches with the others we've seen for Orks in 40K, Lumineth, Sisters, and so on.
The army books can look differently from the traditional Limited Editions if they are part of the army box. Happened to Sisters, Orks, and maybe more.
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The mouth is too big, the teeth just look straight up badly designed, the helmet(?)...I'm praying to all 4 gods that there are some alternate heads, if not I''l have to get creative.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
The Juan Diaz daemon prince was superior in every way, but size
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The mouth is too big, the teeth just look straight up badly designed, the helmet(?)...I'm praying to all 4 gods that there are some alternate heads, if not I''l have to get creative.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
There’s almost no chance it’s the only head option.
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The mouth is too big, the teeth just look straight up badly designed, the helmet(?)...I'm praying to all 4 gods that there are some alternate heads, if not I''l have to get creative.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
There’s almost no chance it’s the only head option.
I really hope that you are right!
Looking at the head again, I can't help but get Trish Carden vibes. Does she still work for GW?
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The mouth is too big, the teeth just look straight up badly designed, the helmet(?)...I'm praying to all 4 gods that there are some alternate heads, if not I''l have to get creative.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
The Juan Diaz daemon prince was superior in every way, but size
Until you had to try and assemble it
The pain was worth it
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
You know the current one you said is ""bad"" is identical to Diaz prince (at least its 40K build), only bigger, more detailed, has way more options, far better pose than the broken neck squat, and goes together infinity times easier, eh?
I am always amazed people tend to repeat this as gospel, when in reality DP was one of Diaz few duds and its plastic reimagining is not only superior, but probably superior to new one too unless GW hid some nice parts they didn't use on a sprue...
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
You know the current one you said is ""bad"" is identical to Diaz prince (at least its 40K build), only bigger, more detailed, has way more options, far better pose than the broken neck squat, and goes together infinity times easier, eh?
I am always amazed people tend to repeat this as gospel, when in reality DP was one of Diaz few duds and its plastic reimagining is not only superior, but probably superior to new one too unless GW hid some nice parts they didn't use on a sprue...
Obviously, it's subjective. But I have seen way more people praising that JD model than the current plastic kit
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I can see not liking the older model. But despite being plastic, I don't see the draw of the current kit.
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
You know the current one you said is ""bad"" is identical to Diaz prince (at least its 40K build), only bigger, more detailed, has way more options, far better pose than the broken neck squat, and goes together infinity times easier, eh?
I am always amazed people tend to repeat this as gospel, when in reality DP was one of Diaz few duds and its plastic reimagining is not only superior, but probably superior to new one too unless GW hid some nice parts they didn't use on a sprue...
Sure, I mean maybe it's identical to people who don't have eyes?
Did you really say that the current DP is more detailed than the metal Juan Diaz version? I don't think that your opinion is shared by many
Each to their own though. I do enjoy your posts
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Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
You know the current one you said is ""bad"" is identical to Diaz prince (at least its 40K build), only bigger, more detailed, has way more options, far better pose than the broken neck squat, and goes together infinity times easier, eh?
I am always amazed people tend to repeat this as gospel, when in reality DP was one of Diaz few duds and its plastic reimagining is not only superior, but probably superior to new one too unless GW hid some nice parts they didn't use on a sprue...
It's almost as if different people have different opinions and like different things....
Nice conversions. But if you need to convert up a model using other kits and bits so that you can make the final model look good, then the original model probably isn't very good.
2022/04/30 00:34:37
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Season of War: Thondia, Incarnate of Ghur, Terrain, NH Character p. 70)
tneva82 wrote: Also what looks like content of battletome.
Could be like with hh like next year release or maybe autumn release.
The fact that several warscrolls are listed as "Slaves to Darkness (such and such)" makes me hope that there will be versions for the god-specific books. I'm particularly hoping that both versions of the Gaunt Summoners make it into the Disciples book, since you currently can't take a Gaunt Summoner on Disc in a Tzeentch army.
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Undead_Love-Machine wrote: I'm torn on the new Daemon Prince. I's so much more detailed than the current plastic Masters Of The Universe one, but the head....it's horrible.
The mouth is too big, the teeth just look straight up badly designed, the helmet(?)...I'm praying to all 4 gods that there are some alternate heads, if not I''l have to get creative.
The head of the Juan Diaz metal Daemon Prince was so much better
Aye, I was really hoping for a resculpt in that style (but, yknow, good... unlike the current kits attempt).
I don't like the head either, but it could have alternate heads. No reason to condemn it quite yet.
I mean if they did alternate weapons/heads for the Avatar of Khaine - a model that very specifically does not have different kinds of weapons - then there's a fair shot the new DP can get the same treatment (and, no doubt, price).
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They explicitly said there is more to the kit, and we know for sure there are at the least a sword and a claw right hand, plus a trophy rack instead of wings. I'd say there is pretty good ground for optimism on that front
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NinthMusketeer wrote: They explicitly said there is more to the kit, and we know for sure there are at the least a sword and a claw right hand, plus a trophy rack instead of wings. I'd say there is pretty good ground for optimism on that front
There will be alternate hands, feet, wings, weapons and hips. Only one head.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I mean if they did alternate weapons/heads for the Avatar of Khaine - a model that very specifically does not have different kinds of weapons - then there's a fair shot the new DP can get the same treatment (and, no doubt, price).
You’d be 100% wrong with that criticism though. The Wailing Doom has had multiple physical forms since 4th Ed 40K, and earlier if you count the Epic Avatar/original 40K smol sculpt, yet only recently a kit to match the lore.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
NinthMusketeer wrote: They explicitly said there is more to the kit, and we know for sure there are at the least a sword and a claw right hand, plus a trophy rack instead of wings. I'd say there is pretty good ground for optimism on that front
Barring a helmet option that hides the face, I'm not sure we should hold out hope for a better head, even if there are multiple options. Since the switch to plastic GW's toothy murder daemon faces have managed to look goofy more than threatening on a pretty consistent basis.
It doesn't help that the 'Eavy Metal paint job is what it is. Sure, that doesn't mean a thing once you get the models in your hands, but well, how should I put it. It's a variation on Kiss. Black attire, warm skin, heavily contrasted black and white face. I don't know if that's the presentation GW wanted to go for, but I don't think the funky makeup look from the 70s reflects the fluff of most Daemon Princes very well.
I also can't help but see Tyranid wings stuck to a Chaos model like it's a bad kitbash. It's not exactly Tyranid aesthetic, but it's quite reminiscent and the ridged carapace parts on the wings that don't relate back to any other part of the model look off to me. I want to believe the tail we can't see from this angle will mesh with it, but it seems to have spines not found on those wing parts, so that's up in the air right now. And then it still doesn't help the look when viewed from the front. Preferably there are unarmored optional parts that share that design, too, but I'm not sure we'll see that. And even for a GW plastic monster the ankles look excessively angular. It's all a bit of a mess. Better than the current Daemon Prince, but that's hardly a challenge.
I think they got the armor parts right, but it doesn't seem to me like there would be much doubt about that. GW nailed down a good look for Chaos Warriors twenty years ago. Making everything in Warriors of Chaos/Slaves to Darkness mesh with that is welcome and appreciated, but not hard. It's the fleshy bits GW struggles with.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
Another day another set of leaks the whole Nighthaunt book has leaked (see Reddit)
Friendly Nighthaunt units get 6+ ward and retreat and charge in same turn.
Awlrach the Drowner (175pts) and Craventhrone Guard (115) are the only new additions.
Chainrasps go up to 110 for 10 - move and bravery up to 8, +1 to wounds on the charge
Black coach goes from 200 to 335 - no damage table
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H.B.M.C. wrote: I mean if they did alternate weapons/heads for the Avatar of Khaine - a model that very specifically does not have different kinds of weapons - then there's a fair shot the new DP can get the same treatment (and, no doubt, price).
You’d be 100% wrong with that criticism though. The Wailing Doom has had multiple physical forms since 4th Ed 40K, and earlier if you count the Epic Avatar/original 40K smol sculpt, yet only recently a kit to match the lore.
Pretty sure they meant rules-wise. They gave weapon options for a kit that only has one weapon profile.
JohnnyHell wrote: You’d be 100% wrong with that criticism though. The Wailing Doom has had multiple physical forms since 4th Ed 40K, and earlier if you count the Epic Avatar/original 40K smol sculpt, yet only recently a kit to match the lore.
The Wailing Doom is always the Wailing Doom. Doesn't matter what form it takes. So what I said is 100% accurate: They gave the Avatar alternate weapons despite it being a model that very specifically does not have different kinds of weapons. The Daemon Prince, on the other hand, does have different kinds of weapons, and options for that matter, so it'd be weird if he had only one build.
ImAGeek figured out what I meant. I hardly wrote it in code.
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