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 Platuan4th wrote:

 KidCthulhu wrote:
I think what really happened is that they made Ghouls and Ghoul-adjacent models into its own faction, came up with the interesting FEC lore, but haven't devoted the resources to models that reinforce that new lore yet.

That bit of lore isn't new and wasn't originated in AoS. Some Strigoi going crazy and passing their delusion of their pre-fall court lifestyle on to their ghouls was already a thing in WHFB and WHFRP.

It was only the Strygoi vampires who were delusionnal, and even then not all of them (some were just the feral monsters they looked like). The ghouls didn't share it, they were still just cannibalistic monsters in their mind.

The basis were in Battle's last editions, but only as a footnote and to tell about the Strigoi's madness and decline as a vampire family line - yet, it was not all of them and the "parody of court" weren't necessarily always a thing. Mostly because the army was not focusing on ghouls only.

AoS was really where the lore of the vampire's madness spreading to their followers was developped fully, with the details about the different roles in an abhorrant's court and the names of the legendary main Ushoran nobles. Don't make it sound like it was in Battle lore already, because that's not true at all. Flesh-eater lore was really new and that's why it was so compelling to follow, even though it was the same old kits.

Price list

Huh. I was expecting higher price for the set.

Good enough, still I fear I won't be able to beat the scalpers on this one.

So that puts it at less than £100 after discounters. Nice

Wonder whats in the getting started magazine this time. One pyro Marine and 1 Gaunt?

New big lad incoming:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/21/a-hulking-new-orruk-boss-leads-the-charge-into-the-nova-open-previews/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=warhammer-age-of-sigmar&utm_content=ironjawsreveal210823&fbclid=IwAR3vyAvYujSIfxDq8DOMOKXpZw_ab2mo-q2rZLmTn6RHqvf_k9L1guWqXYc

What was on that leaked list for IJ again?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

What was on that leaked list for IJ again?

This guy, new Ardboyz, Weirdbrute Wrekkaz, Zoggrok Anvilsmasha - a named Megaboss-sized model on foot and the Maw-Grunta that was already shown all planned for release late in September

Nice so that confirms Ardboyz have been redesigned to look like Brutes but with mask/helmets and they are riding on the side of the Maw-Grunta.

Weirdbrutes are rumoured to be a 3 man unit on 50mm bases unarmoured from the waist up a bit like the brute in the WHU warband

Nice model, hopefully there are more heads to choose from.

Those ravenous pilgrims are great, though sadly the conversions don't really strike me as something that could be applied across a 100 model army...

Really, I want to see what a barded terrorgheist might look like before I invest the time and energy into trying to greenstuff that myself.

Also good call on the cawdor stuff!

Its a beautiful model for AoS and with some light conversion work would make one hell of a BSB for Greenskins in the Old World.

I wonder how Zoggrok got his name? I’m hoping it’s duardin related but anvil probably will mean anvils of heldenhammer and he’ll be clad in their armored remains

Happy to see the transfer sheet in full. 11 named states, 3 unnamed ones and Cavalier Heraldry.



Iconography article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/23/cities-of-sigmar-round-table-part-three-creating-the-heraldry-and-iconography/

It's an impressive sheet. I wonder if it will come in standard boxes when the regular release happens? On a side note, the Lethis scheme is speaking to me.

I wonder if these decals would fit on a space marine pauldron? Could be cool insignia for homebrew chapters.

I do love some stickers.

I’m really appreciating the “we went with a grounded feel” for this release.

The models convey it beautifully. These are people on Crusade, but not supermen. Just….spods.

Its sad, but not unexpected, that Anvilgard isn't being featured as a City with rules nor iconography on the transfer sheet.

On the plus side, if you turn the living city's icon upside-down, it kinda looks like a squid.

That's because Anvilgard is dead my guy. Morathi took it over and turned it into Har Kuron.

I'm still not sure what GW's plan is there - make DoG back into Dark Elves; make DE or Har Kuron into its own army; obliterate the De models at some random point or something

 Overread wrote:
I'm still not sure what GW's plan is there - make DoG back into Dark Elves; make DE or Har Kuron into its own army; obliterate the De models at some random
point or something

Keep them with the Cities, as that's where they are right now.

Har Kuron might get a background nod in the book.

 flaherty wrote:
I wonder if these decals would fit on a space marine pauldron? Could be cool insignia for homebrew chapters.

I have a similar though. No desire to get the City of Sigmar minis, but could always use some more unique heraldries for my Brets.

 Gert wrote:
That's because Anvilgard is dead my guy. Morathi took it over and turned it into Har Kuron.

Yes, hence the "not unexpected". Doesn't mean that I would not have liked to see it presented, its not like GW is forcing us to play within a continuing narrative anyway. Not like 40k isn't already littered with characters and subfactions that are long since dead either. No reason they couldn't have been featured. Cadians get to keep existing in 40k as a remnant or whatever, no reason you couldn't have the "Anvilgard Remnant" or something.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/24/cities-of-sigmar-round-table-part-four-writing-the-rules/

Cities of Sigmar Round Table: Part Four – Writing the Rules

EDIT: This didn't really tell us much we didn't already know. They did spell out that Dark Elves and Dwarfs work better as a component of a larger force than on their own, though.

Memnoch wrote:
Wonder whats in the getting started magazine this time. One pyro Marine and 1 Gaunt?

Yup. A special Infernus (Sargent? no skull on his helmet) aiming a heavy bolt pistol and an interestingly posed Termagant. (The ones in the paint set are also pretty interesting in their poses as opposed to the more neutral ones in the new and indeed old "monopose" and mulipart kit.) I guess GW probably understood that the new Infernus flamer isn't so evocative as a weapon and gave him a pose aiming a gun for this reason. It works, makes the model look much more interesting to me and I would imagine new hobbyists.

https://warhammer40000.com/getting-started

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Happy to see the transfer sheet in full. 11 named states, 3 unnamed ones and Cavalier Heraldry.



Iconography article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/23/cities-of-sigmar-round-table-part-three-creating-the-heraldry-and-iconography/

I guess we will see these used on many a new Bretonnian army once TOW drops. I hope this sheet can be aquired seperately (think HH Legions).

"many new brettonian armies" is strangely amusing to me. I still can't wrap my head around the thought process of launching with the two most unpopular armies in the game.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
"many new brettonian armies" is strangely amusing to me. I still can't wrap my head around the thought process of launching with the two most unpopular armies in the game.

Bretonnians were not really unpopular, but with the Empire there was a human army that could do more or less the same - and more. Khemri suffered from ugly models, especially the standard troops.

Bretonnia now also has the benefit of nostalgia and not being available for the last few years.
Same with Tomb Kings.