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2023/08/27 11:46:42
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
Regarding the 360 its a feature that I bet it was abandoned just because it generates work and the guys that did it either moved to other companies, changed roles or dont have time to do it anymore... its quite common for certain extra "services" to just disappear due to unorganized workflows and corporate inertia.
I will miss them since I think any 2d pic of a sculpt is not clear enough to display all the details and angles. How many times theres details on the back of the minis that actually sell it better than the front pics? Furthermore to pictures I think GW should find out a scale comparison method picture template so that you can actually check the sizes of these minis!
People seem to like the scaling on the new humans, but all I can see is a bunch of kids in costumes, especially after the excellent new Cadians got the 32mm new-heroic proportions almost perfectly.
I won't mention the horses at all. Poor creatures.
2023/08/27 12:31:04
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
NAVARRO wrote: Regarding the 360 its a feature that I bet it was abandoned just because it generates work and the guys that did it either moved to other companies, changed roles or dont have time to do it anymore... its quite common for certain extra "services" to just disappear due to unorganized workflows and corporate inertia.
I will miss them since I think any 2d pic of a sculpt is not clear enough to display all the details and angles. How many times theres details on the back of the minis that actually sell it better than the front pics? Furthermore to pictures I think GW should find out a scale comparison method picture template so that you can actually check the sizes of these minis!
The 360 hasn't been abandoned at all, it might take a while until they add them instead of being there at the release but they still do them. For example the Seraphon releases didn't have them when they where up for preorder but now every kit has them. Not for every single miniature in the kit, for example the Spawn of Chotec only has it for the Salamander itself and not for the Skink Handlers, but at least the most important parts of a kit do get them every time. It just takes a while until they are added.
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2023/08/27 15:17:31
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
NAVARRO wrote: Regarding the 360 its a feature that I bet it was abandoned just because it generates work and the guys that did it either moved to other companies, changed roles or dont have time to do it anymore... its quite common for certain extra "services" to just disappear due to unorganized workflows and corporate inertia.
I will miss them since I think any 2d pic of a sculpt is not clear enough to display all the details and angles. How many times theres details on the back of the minis that actually sell it better than the front pics? Furthermore to pictures I think GW should find out a scale comparison method picture template so that you can actually check the sizes of these minis!
The 360 hasn't been abandoned at all, it might take a while until they add them instead of being there at the release but they still do them. For example the Seraphon releases didn't have them when they where up for preorder but now every kit has them. Not for every single miniature in the kit, for example the Spawn of Chotec only has it for the Salamander itself and not for the Skink Handlers, but at least the most important parts of a kit do get them every time. It just takes a while until they are added.
Yeah they have 360 views for all the latest releases. It's probably people missing deadlines.
2023/08/27 17:17:41
Subject: AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
Overread wrote: I wonder if its GW trying to somehow cut down on a tiny amount of the 3D copy-cat sculpting market, but honestly once the model is in peoples hands that's it.
This thought would go so great with the headline "somehow Kirby has returned".
Me, I always appreciated the 360° views. Changed my mind on a few models as well and made GW some money they wouldn't have gotten otherwise. But hey, who needs marketing tools anyway, right?
Exactly my take on it as well and in the same situation as you. I've reconsidered buying after spinning models around and seeing flaws that would bother me also at the same time made me want to buy some of them while I was on the fence. But biggest oof for me, is sometimes with some kits it's hard to tell from the instructions where some of the bits go and I just check the GW site.
Tbh this won't stop sculptors to copy their models ... there have been previewed models just from the front and the next day perfect copies coming up online. It just a hindrance to the average GW consumer :(
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2023/08/27 17:31:12
Subject: AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
I got the impression GW was pretty concerned about showing their models/product properly.
They usually give us studio pictures of leaked stuff, saying they dont want us talking about their models based on potato-cam leaks.
Also send lots of stuff to indipendant social media people so they can make you tube videos about the design and assembly.
So, I think they will keep the 360 function. Should be simple enough to get done.
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His Master's Voice wrote: People seem to like the scaling on the new humans, but all I can see is a bunch of kids in costumes, especially after the excellent new Cadians got the 32mm new-heroic proportions almost perfectly.
I won't mention the horses at all. Poor creatures.
It simply means it's not to your personnal taste, that's all.
When you look at fantasy miniatures when you rather like realistic SF miniatures, it always looks like the first is a carnival in comparison. Because, you know, fantasy. Has nothing to do with "being done almost perfectly" or not, it's just your bias that makes them look weird. People without that bias don't see that at all. I guess that's why so many people like them.
2023/08/28 07:59:33
Subject: AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
I think the criticism of the helmets is totally valid, seems like one of those things that were designed to make them "GW" rather than generic.
I'm planning to use other heads on mine but I'm not sure what yet. I love the helmeted heads that you got with the Greatswords kit, but sadly I have very few of them that aren't already used, certainly not enough for a unit.
2023/08/28 14:22:02
Subject: AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
I'm really not understanding people visceral hatred for the helmets. Its a unique style direction they decided to go in. If you dont like them its not like GW hasn't stuffed their kits full of extra heads since, forever. Just hit up your bits box and use an older one.
I nabbed some Greatsword boxes as soon as the Dawnbringer Crusades were announced as I knew the old kits were going to get removed. I'm literally swimming in heads.
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2023/08/28 14:45:47
Subject: AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
Kanluwen wrote: 2 is probably the top end. I would figure it out based on the 1:1 ratio of Steelhelms and Fusiliers or Wildercorps for battlelines.
Good point, forgot about the wildercorps hunters, didn't even factor that into my calculus. I was really thinking in terms of wanting more cavalry and a third freeguild marshal (so I can build one of each of the three weapon configurations). I guess at that point it might be more cost effective to just settle for 2 launch boxes and buy an extra marshal and 1-2 more boxes of cavalry (if at all, 2 units might be enough). Not like I need a third alchemist or whatever the other hero is called (even 2 seems like overkill).
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Commodus Leitdorf wrote: I'm really not understanding people visceral hatred for the helmets. Its a unique style direction they decided to go in. If you dont like them its not like GW hasn't stuffed their kits full of extra heads since, forever. Just hit up your bits box and use an older one.
I nabbed some Greatsword boxes as soon as the Dawnbringer Crusades were announced as I knew the old kits were going to get removed. I'm literally swimming in heads.
Agreed. I understand that they are maybe a bit clumsy looking and completely ahistorical - but if you're here for historical accuracy you're playing the wrong game. Personally,I kinda wish they had leaned into the steampunk a bit more and put goggles on some of those heads,either actively being worn on the eyes or worn "off" on top of the helmets. It would be a cool look.
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2023/08/28 15:13:58
Subject: AOS N&R (Cities of Sigmar Army Box pre-order Aug 26)
Erm...not a single person has shown "visceral hatred" for the helmets
And if you do find someone that is showing 'visceral hatred' for helmet designs on a plastic model, please tell them to touch grass.
I seem to remember that certain moo cow helmets engendered considerable emotional responses. I don't think the fashion choices of Sigmar's faithful have been anywhere near as controversial.
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