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Hm, looks about what was expected. Probably wait until cryptborn comes out separately.

I'm pretty sure the reason why the Freeguild Marshal & Relic Envoy and the Alchemite Warforger aren't on there is because they will be part of the Vanguard set. Small heroes in Vanguard sets aren't normally available outside for whatever reason. The only exceptions seems to be the Ogors Tyrant which is a webstore exclusive
(They where available before but a while ago GW deleted all of them from the webstore and I'm pretty sure the same will be the case for these two)

What are the ven Densts doing on that list? They are available for purchase right now and as far as I know haven't been taken off the webstore since their release.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ah... the Whisperblade is part of a bigger box, not a clampack mini.

That's a shame.

On the bright side for less than twice the price of a clampack character you get a box with five characters and a pet.

Likely repack for new box art. That results in new sku

Doesn't that usually go hand in hand with the item going out of stock on the webstore until re-release, though? That's not the case here.

 Geifer wrote:
Doesn't that usually go hand in hand with the item going out of stock on the webstore until re-release, though? That's not the case here.

Its more that they stop producing the old version and if enough get bought before the new one is released it goes out of stock. If they had a lot of old stock left it's not that surprising that it didn't go out of stock.
Also Cities and in turn the Ven Densts should be one of the few releases that went as planned as the Battletome already said November on the points lists back when it was released with the army set. So they should have been able to plan the stock levels accordingly

Right. That's probably it, then. Thanks, guys!

 Geifer wrote:
Doesn't that usually go hand in hand with the item going out of stock on the webstore until re-release, though? That's not the case here.

It also coincides with an item going back to an "on the shelf" release, of which the Ven Densts have not been for a few years now for GW shops.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/23/lead-armies-of-soaring-draconith-with-ionus-cryptborn/

Battleforces:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/23/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-battleforces-four-incredible-boxed-sets-for-the-festive-season/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=aos&utm_content=aos231023&fbclid=IwAR1QgK0TFCq3GWaWICRsGbZBLhb0F9mdjzpGPoTRd__vCQVAdqcsrRT5Mfk

Seraphon one is my favourite.

Still surprised there is a Seraphon one. Especially that the warcry warband is in there.

Ooooooooooh, the Vengorian Court is very tempting!

StD Looks pretty good if you want to begin the army. Even If the vanguard box kinds of overlap with it.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Still surprised there is a Seraphon one. Especially that the warcry warband is in there.

Not like they can put regular skinks in.

Hunters can get you 3 units from one box too.

AoS Battleforce discount calculations: (Prices assumed for a ~35% discount as that is about what we got last year)

Seraphon:

1x Slann Starmaster - £52.50 - 67,5€ - $85
1x Saurus Warriors - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Kroxigors - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Aggradon Lancers - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Hunters of Huanchi - £37.50 - 50€ - $60

Total: £202.50 - 267,5€ - $325 -> Assumed prices: £130 - 170€ - $210

Ossiarch Bonereapers:

1x Arch-Kavalos Zandtos - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Mortek Guard - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Gothizzar Harvester - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Kavalos Deathriders - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
2x Morghast Archai - £85 - 110€ - $140

Total: £230 - 300€ - $380 -> Assumed prices: £150 - 195€ - $250

Slaves to Darkness:

1x Eternus, Blade of The First Prince - £37.5 - 50€ - $60
1x Ogroid Theridons - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Chaos Knights - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Chaos Chosen - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Chaos Warriors - £37.50 - 50€ - $60

Total: £192,5 - 260€ - $310 -> Assumed prices: £125 - 170€ - $200

Soulblight Gravelords:

1x Vengorian Lord - £42,5 - 55€ - $70
1x Blood Knights - £42,5 - 55€ - $70
1x Deathrattle Skeletons - £37,5 - 50€ - $60
1x Dire Wolves - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Fell Bats - £35 - 45€ - $60

Total: £192,5 - 250€ - $320 -> Assumed prices: £125 - 165€ - $210



Again the prices are only assumed so the discount is close to 35% as that is the average we got last year. But that is just an average and there were boxes with higher and lower discounts so the actual prices this year will be different. This is just an estimate

None of them really stand out to me this year, this is probably going to be the first year that I just don't bother getting a battleforce at all.


I find it a bit odd that they are adding the warcry warband to the seraphon battleforce, even if they do have AoS rules.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Still surprised there is a Seraphon one. Especially that the warcry warband is in there.

Not like they can put regular skinks in.

Hunters can get you 3 units from one box too.

Yeah, I wish all of the Warcry boxes were like the skinks. None of the "1 in 9 must be X" "1 in 9 must be Y" with mixed base sizes and such. The skinks is 10 are this, 3 are those, each with their own respective warscrolls.

I'm 100% interested in that Soulblight boxed set! Lots of fancy and chunky fun models in there to play with

 nels1031 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Still surprised there is a Seraphon one. Especially that the warcry warband is in there.

Not like they can put regular skinks in.

Hunters can get you 3 units from one box too.

Yeah, I wish all of the Warcry boxes were like the skinks. None of the "1 in 9 must be X" "1 in 9 must be Y" with mixed base sizes and such. The skinks is 10 are this, 3 are those, each with their own respective warscrolls.

It's worth mentioning that part of the reason it's so weird?
You can't build 10 bolas from one box.

Would probably have been tempted by the StD one if i wasn't already going to spend an unhealthy amount on Cities on Ionus on Saturday.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/24/summon-the-evergreen-hunt-with-belthanos-first-thorn-of-kurnoth/

 nels1031 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Still surprised there is a Seraphon one. Especially that the warcry warband is in there.

Not like they can put regular skinks in.

Hunters can get you 3 units from one box too.

Yeah, I wish all of the Warcry boxes were like the skinks. None of the "1 in 9 must be X" "1 in 9 must be Y" with mixed base sizes and such. The skinks is 10 are this, 3 are those, each with their own respective warscrolls.

The Skinks do have a couple mixed base sizes though.

 AduroT wrote:
The Skinks do have a couple mixed base sizes though.

Well I'm not doing that

 Geifer wrote:
What are the ven Densts doing on that list? They are available for purchase right now and as far as I know haven't been taken off the webstore since their release.

They're now showing as sold out on the US site.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
The Skinks do have a couple mixed base sizes though.

Well I'm not doing that

Fair! I did stick the Skink leader on his slightly larger base, but I also cheat by sticking my Necron characters on incorrectly larger bases so they’re all consistently 40mm instead off the weird mishmash their official sizes are.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Well I'm not doing that

Liar. You have no intention to buy this box and build its components at all.

Instead of considering these as starters / complements for AoS armies, I see them as full complete bands for Warcry. Here I have no less than 3 warbands in one box ! It's great !

Besides, Warcry is the superior game anyway.

I'm just joking. It's all a matter of perspective, and the bases on the skinks are actually more than reasonnable (they are just for 2 fighters, so it really doesn't impact the game at all). Do whatever you want with your miniatures and enjoy the bundles for as long as they last.

Does anyone have an idea about the base size for the Fusiliers?

I think the price for some things are already pretty crazy. Cavalier Marshal for 45 Euro? wow...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/26/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-metawatch-how-to-claim-a-rebate-on-your-bone-tithe/

I think that solves it. The new Flesheater Courts aren't getting revealed until their win rate drops to 55% or lower.