AOS N&R (Adepticon p211, Range Purge p221)

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**Geifer**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Geifer wrote:
It's Halloween and we're getting another preview show in the middle of November. No better time for it than now.

Wait? We are? When! Not doubting you, I’ve just entirely missed that!

No idea if they put it in writing and I don't think they gave an exact date, but during the Warhammer Day stream they said there'd be another preview in a month. That was in the middle of October, so should be in the middle of Novermber.

**Matrindur**

Geifer wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Geifer wrote:
It's Halloween and we're getting another preview show in the middle of November. No better time for it than now.

Wait? We are? When! Not doubting you, I’ve just entirely missed that!

No idea if they put it in writing and I don't think they gave an exact date, but during the Warhammer Day stream they said there'd be another preview in a month. That was in the middle of October, so should be in the middle of Novermber.

I think they said it will be at the US Open Grand Narrative Finale and that was also a preview last year so should be correct. Would be on the 16th - 19th November

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Oh nice! I’ll look forward to that.

**Shadow Walker**

Finally new crypt ghouls (and other, less important from my point of view, creatures)!

**Overread**

I'm crossing my fingers this might mean a new skeleton dragon kit from GW as part of the update

**Sotahullu**

New horrors of the night. Lovely.

**Shadow Walker**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/2wYj3MbRpOodjNo7.pdf

**NinthMusketeer**

I have a hunch that FEC popularity exceeded GWs expectations, and the reason they've taken so long to get an update is because it is going to be BIG.

**Overread**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
I have a hunch that FEC popularity exceeded GWs expectations, and the reason they've taken so long to get an update is because it is going to be BIG.

I really hope so, esp since they've a good few cross overs with Soulblight, but also because its great seeing what's possibly the least profitable AoS army (because its pretty much 1 leader, 1 finecast and 1 battlebox) turn into something at least bigger than it is.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

It would be nice.

They’re the perfect example of how Really Cool Background is so important.

I’d also argue they’re a converters dream. The main range is hideous, bestial creatures. And as noted many times ago don’t really reflect the background….leaving plenty of space for people to go just as mad as the models they’re converting.

**lord_blackfang**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
I have a hunch that FEC popularity exceeded GWs expectations

I suspect you're right. It was a phoned-in WHFB to AOS microfaction conversion and the meager model range alone certainly doesn't warrant that much popularity, they really lucked out unwittingly stumbling into quite captivating lore.

**kodos**

The faction that made the cheapest viable army and got decent lore is more popular than GW expected?
Shocked, I am shocked

**lord_blackfang**

kodos wrote:
The faction that made the cheapest viable army

Ha ha also a factor to be sure, 3 Start Collecgtings and there was your (for a time top tier) tourney army.

**drbored**

Gunna be wild when the Start Collecting is replaced by a Vanguard Box that will not have nearly as much value in it.

But, on the flip side, the army will finally be getting the big update it's needed for the better part of a decade.

**chaos0xomega**

lord_blackfang wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
I have a hunch that FEC popularity exceeded GWs expectations

I suspect you're right. It was a phoned-in WHFB to AOS microfaction conversion and the meager model range alone certainly doesn't warrant that much popularity, they really lucked out unwittingly stumbling into quite captivating lore.

100%. Even moreso that the lore at least loosely appears to have originated as a bit of a joke or meme about Bretonnia before taking on a life of its own.

And the lore is good. Like really good. My girlfriend was cooking up a character for her latest Strahd themed DnD campaign and needed some inspiration for background. I gave her a quick top-level rundown of how the FEC delusions work and she was blown away and incorporated a similar concept into her characters background. Her partymates were similarly blown away when it was revealed that they were all suffering from a degenerative delusion and were actually the monsters in their own story.

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drbored wrote:
Gunna be wild when the Start Collecting is replaced by a Vanguard Box that will not have nearly as much value in it.

But, on the flip side, the army will finally be getting the big update it's needed for the better part of a decade.

Most of the vanguard boxes to date seem to have basically been the contents of a start collecting + an extra thing. Don't know if the value proposition is as good but the contents aren't usually too different.

Personally I just bought my 6th (and final) FEC start collecting, mainly for Terrorgheist #6 (aka Ghoul King on Terrorgheist #2). I don't really need all those ghouls but the bigger bois will be joining some of the others as Vargheists in my Soulblight army. I will need another Terrorgheist/Zombie Dragon kit for a vampire lord on zombie dragon/prince vodrai (sp?) but I'm otherwise tapped out on them.

**lord_blackfang**

That's a lot of FEC! I think I got 4 SC! (and actually sold off one of the Gheists), and maybe one of the random campaign boxes that was 6 Horrors and 10 or 20 Ghouls. And that new king on office chair.

Well, I also have the Warcry gang in the mail right now, no idea how useful it will be.

**chaos0xomega**

Yeah, I mostly bought the boxes for the Terrorgheists and the Horrors. It was cheaper to buy the start collectings than to buy those two kits individually, so it made sense to go that route. The ghouls were a bonus on top, and because I have so many I will probably try to sell some off or converting them for something else.

**Shadow Walker**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/03/dawnbringer-chronicles-xiii-blacktalon-beyond-fires-light/

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Ooooh!

Foul forest-daemons and sinister assassins are abroad in the Mortal Realms. In such tumultuous times, it is incumbent upon the munificence of the Summerking to protect his borders and citizens from the barbarians who reave the lands beyond.

This crucial duty is bestowed with great honour upon the Summerking’s most mighty and chivalrous kinsfolk, who are granted the distinguished title of Abhorrant Gorewarden for their stalwart defence of the realm. Stationed in great redoubts at strategic points across the lands, these determined marcher lords are sworn to protect the boundaries of their liege’s kingdom at all costs

The Gorewardens hold symbolic rings of keys – the ‘keys to the kingdom’, which represent their court-appointed authority over the gates to their lord’s blessed lands. Many also take up the fashion of magnificent ruffs, that mark them like sunbursts as anointed servants of the Summerking.

Some whisper that these devoted margraves pursue their solemn duty with too great a fervency – verging, perhaps, on territorial obsession – but these are mere murmurings of dissent from jealous courtiers, or intruding miscreants soon to be imprisoned in the cells of the Gorewarden’s keep.

It falls to the Gorewardens to roust trespassers, apprehend poachers, and intercept treacherous scouting parties from hostile lands. They rally their swiftest bannermen to meet the task, and these fierce men and women descend upon their quarry as though carried by great wings – the result, surely, of many years spent in the pursuit of their sacred duty.

Fret not, dear friend – you have an invitation, and need not fear the Gorewarden’s gaze. As the date of the great feast draws closer, we shall introduce you to other esteemed members of the royal court.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Now their identity is getting set in. Nice

**Overread**

*looks at gorewarden*

*kooks at Vargheists*

This - this is what Vargheists should be!!

**GaroRobe**

Oooo sexy

I wonder if how many of his fingers will snap off. The arch regent on the GW site is missing one or two

Also why is everything “abhorrant?” Is that a term specifically for high ranking ghouls or are they all just ugly?

**lord_blackfang**

NICE

**H.B.M.C.**

drbored wrote:
Gunna be wild when the Start Collecting is replaced by a Vanguard Box that will not have nearly as much value in it.

That's not always the case. The Lizardmen Start Collecting box basically gave you the Carnosaur for free.

I just got the Lizardmen Vanguard, which was cheaper than buying Kroxigors and Saurus Warriors individually, and I still basically got the Carnosaur for free!

**GaroRobe**

Who is the Summerking? Is he part of the Broken Realms campaign or is there a chance he’ll be a named character

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Ushoran. The fluff's been building up to him making an appearance, so there's a chance he'll be getting a centerpiece.

**Cataphract**

GaroRobe wrote:
Oooo sexy

I wonder if how many of his fingers will snap off. The arch regent on the GW site is missing one or two

Also why is everything “abhorrant?” Is that a term specifically for high ranking ghouls or are they all just ugly?

Abhorants is the term for the actual vampires of the FEC, they are true vampires whereas the Mordants are the Still Alive Ghouls.

**Grail Seeker**

Truly an awesome model.

If the whole range update is at that level, and the FEC models finally match their awesome lore, GW has a homerun on their hands.

**Sarouan**

GaroRobe wrote:

Also why is everything “abhorrant?” Is that a term specifically for high ranking ghouls or are they all just ugly?

Abhorrant are the vampires of the Flesheater Courts. They're all parts of the royal court that makes all the other ghouls truly part of their delusions, and direct descendants of Ushoran, the 1st of them. It's directly tied to their background. As you can see on this one's teeth, it's clearly a vampire.

**Shadow Walker**

I like the model but I abhor that tactical rock.