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2023/12/19 07:55:41
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Dryaktylus wrote: Snake is cool, but the vampire looks like a spindly granny in some kind of fetish dress. Neither seductive nor menacing nor stylish.
Which is very strange given she is an emmisary from Nulahmia where they even polish and perfume the skeleton guards - unless the flesh eater madness has taken her as well?
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The vampire's meant to be working as a diplomat to the Flesheaters, and so I guess has just decided to dress as they dress, to fit in / not show them up.
2023/12/19 10:17:46
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Grumpy Gnome wrote: I am not an AOS player but I do like getting some of the minis for other games. This seems a fine figure for a number of purposes, I especially like the snake. However, given the criticisms so far of the figure I am surprised no one mentioned the only thing I really do not like about it… how tall that headgear is. I would need to replace that for sure.
I agree on the headgear, but for me GW has a lot of misses across so many ranges, and on the positive end many kits with so many head choices, that I don't often remark on it anymore.
I'd use her as a Tomb Queen for The Old World if she isn't humorously tall. She is, no doubt, but Tomb Guard aren't exactly short either, so it might work pretty well. That entails a head swap and wrapping the exposed skin.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
2023/12/19 10:40:57
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Grumpy Gnome wrote: I am not an AOS player but I do like getting some of the minis for other games. This seems a fine figure for a number of purposes, I especially like the snake. However, given the criticisms so far of the figure I am surprised no one mentioned the only thing I really do not like about it… how tall that headgear is. I would need to replace that for sure.
P'shaw, everyone knows tall hats are a sign of power. Look at the Dawi Zharr!
The thing about 40k is that no one person can grasp the fullness of it.
Better to think of the vampire and her snake as an ammo token. Once Sons of Behemat get the giant version of Thulsa Doom, it gives him the choice between poison shot and conventional arrowhead.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
2023/12/19 12:26:54
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Nerferata also rocks a huge hat, so I assume it’s the fashion in Nulamia.
How many vampires are we up to now? Factoring in the FEC vampires and the units from specialist games, I think they may have more models than primaris lieutenants now
2023/12/19 17:12:13
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Grumpy Gnome wrote: I am not an AOS player but I do like getting some of the minis for other games. This seems a fine figure for a number of purposes, I especially like the snake. However, given the criticisms so far of the figure I am surprised no one mentioned the only thing I really do not like about it… how tall that headgear is. I would need to replace that for sure.
Yeah, I would have liked an alternate head option with long flowing hair, maybe a small crown/headdress thing with a similar style to the armor.
2023/12/19 17:44:53
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Shakalooloo wrote: The vampire's meant to be working as a diplomat to the Flesheaters, and so I guess has just decided to dress as they dress, to fit in / not show them up.
Isn't the point of the Flesheaters that they wouldn't see how she was really dressed anyway..?
2023/12/19 18:37:52
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Shakalooloo wrote: The vampire's meant to be working as a diplomat to the Flesheaters, and so I guess has just decided to dress as they dress, to fit in / not show them up.
Isn't the point of the Flesheaters that they wouldn't see how she was really dressed anyway..?
Conversely, why would she ruin her finery when she knows they're all insane and she'll be spending time in what is little better than a charnel pit.
2023/12/19 20:16:49
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Shakalooloo wrote: The vampire's meant to be working as a diplomat to the Flesheaters, and so I guess has just decided to dress as they dress, to fit in / not show them up.
Isn't the point of the Flesheaters that they wouldn't see how she was really dressed anyway..?
Hmm, IIRC there was some fluff that (very loosely/circumstantially) implied that FEC generally see or perceive those not afflicted by the delusions based on their "stance" or "status" towards the FEC. Those who take up arms or go to war against the FEC are perceived as beasts, monsters, savages, vile fiends, and villains. Those who approach the FEC lets say... more peacefully... are perceived to be as they are or might even be seen as being of higher standing. I seem to recall a bit about some down on their luck traveler or whatever being welcomed into a FECs royal court as a distinguished guest for a great banquet in their honor - of course the court was a crumbling and dilapidated run-down castle caked in feces and blood and the banquet was literally dismembered human body parts which the guy recognized as belonging to another group he encountered, and the guy was basically gaking bricks because he couldn't understand any of the grunts or screams or growls being spoken unto him, but he was too paralyzed with fear to try to run away or fight them, whereas the unfortunates who ended up being the evenings meal had chosen violence or attempted to fight back against the FEC and as a result were perceived as being wild animals or something apparently otherwise edible.
Point being that vampire snake lady would probably be perceived either as she was or more positively than that when she approaches the FEC in a welcoming manner or whatever.
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2023/12/19 21:31:23
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
These last page or two are concerning me that people think that Vampires have only 1 change of clothes in life. Or that characters in general have only 1 set of clothes.
Now granted the likes of Gotrek likely did have 1 change of clothes (battered and worn and repaired many many times over); however most characters I'd wager have a host of varied clothes.
Even Stormcast will take off their armour at times.
So a vampire Diplomat might well just wear different clothing when in court compared to the battlefield. The models we get are for the battlefield. So by and large they are wearing their armour. Now some are very fancy and elaborate and their armour is closer to what we'd consider Parade or Dress armour instead of real battle armour.
Overread wrote: These last page or two are concerning me that people think that Vampires have only 1 change of clothes in life. Or that characters in general have only 1 set of clothes.
Like good hitmen and government agents most characters who are sold on their appearance have a wardrobe full of identical attire. It's all about brand recognition.
Jokes aside, it might not actually be a bad idea to show up in armor the first time she visits court. You never know with those crazies. And if the ghouls actually see non-hostiles for what they are, wearing armor that's been left to rust in a corner for five hundred years may not leave the best first impression.
Of course you can rationalize her choice of attire in different ways as well. This might be a good model to get a designer interview on. I have a feeling that the corroded armor is simply there to make the vampire blend in with the other models of the army that are and have more reason to look banged up, like the skeleton warriors. That's not the worst reason considering how many people remarked on how her look and snake made her stand apart from the rest of the army.
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2023/12/20 13:31:28
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
One thing about model bothers me - was the top bit on her hat a gem someone forgot to paint?
Geifer wrote: Jokes aside, it might not actually be a bad idea to show up in armor the first time she visits court. You never know with those crazies. And if the ghouls actually see non-hostiles for what they are, wearing armor that's been left to rust in a corner for five hundred years may not leave the best first impression.
Or maybe their crazy factor works in reverse and they actually see rusted junk as fine clothes?
2023/12/20 13:47:17
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
The thing is, the summerking wine plot is likely just to be something in this book and may not be used later on. I doubt she’s specifically going to be the FEC delegate long term so I dont think her model was designed specifically with the court in mind
2023/12/20 14:18:00
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Irbis wrote: One thing about model bothers me - was the top bit on her hat a gem someone forgot to paint?
The top drop has dents sculpted, so it's probably supposed to be a corroded metal ornament rather than a gem like the others.
Well, it looks identical to other gems she has so my first thought was just chipped gem (or maybe the corrosion is just painted on and is not actually found on the model in most spots as these look too shallow for actual pits). I guess sprue will tell, both the pit issue and the top ornament being soft in shape like pressed metal or sharp like GW does most of their gems...
2023/12/27 14:03:45
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
Tim the Biovore wrote: Definitely Darkoath, the long awaited basic marauder and cavalry update
Elf has a dragon crest, but looks more like Lumineth than I'd expect Kurnothi or Malerion elves to be
That was my thought too. I suspect it's a new Lumineth aspect warrior person.
Like I said:
River Temple.
We're missing just two to complete the Teclian/Aelementari side of things.
River Temple got described in the first army book as slashing open throats, while their totem wasn't described.
The other Aelementari is Zenith...which sounded like it would be a character-type, since it's pure Hyshian light with no temple dedicated to it.
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2023/12/27 14:45:28
Subject: AOS N&R (Sekhar, Fang of Nulahmia pg 188)
