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Chorfs vs Skaven would be a great starter box for AoS, I think. Two cool looking, non-traditional armies of very different playstyle.

I think for most GW games, the poster boys are ‘human’ as a lot of players seem to identify with them. But there’s an element of them being pushed and being popular to that, of course.

However, Mr Whitefang has said it’s going to be Stormcast vs Skaven.

Until GW leadership changes dramatically there's 2 things we can count on. Marines on 40k starters and stormcast on AOS starters.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Whitefang has confirmed a rumour that Chaos Dwarfs are coming in AoS4. Exciting!

AoS confirmed as the better of the two games

tneva82 wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
But it's only a store anniversary, so it's not like most people are going to be able to get it anyway.

As a poster from the UK - assuming your flag is accurate - how the heck do you figure that?

Not every place has gw store?

Our country has whopping 1 place to get.

Guess do players from other cities head for that store

Gw stores are common in uk but in other countries non-gw stores more common.

My question was intended to refer to people in the UK, not outside of it - if you are based in the UK and want one, you should be able to get one, either directly or via the Loot Group.

If you're in the UK and you don't want to put any effort in to get a limited model you want, that's on you.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Whitefang has confirmed a rumour that Chaos Dwarfs are coming in AoS4. Exciting!

AoS confirmed as the better of the two games

...did you manage to type that with a straight face?

He's certainly not wrong.

I've got to say a lot of the sculpts coming out of the AoS team right now feel very inspired. Like the staff are really getting into the setting, designs and freedom of creativity.

I say that even after the big Necron and Tyranid updates which added new original things and ideas (heck they even made the ugly duckling biovore into a good looking model). There's just something extra about the AoS line right now.


Old World might end up a touch like 40K for a time- a lot of new sculpts that present great polish and improvement over original/older designs and which utilize new skills and technology well; but might lack some of the flare. At least for those armies already established - Cathay and Nippon might well be shining beacons that bring some of that AoS magic into Old World for the design team

I don't know that AoS is a better game, I think from the previews I may like TOW more.... but AoS is certainly the best *product* that GW offers for sale.

Let's not have these snippy little arguments over which is the better game.

If you like updated models, regular releases of new sculpts, brand new concepts for armies and characters, as well as streamlined games that you can play in a couple of hours, play AoS.

If you want ancient models in a mix of metal, resin, and plastic with mold lines as thick as a fingernail where half of the factions with any imagination have been stripped from the line and future updates and rules that are a mix of crunch and USRs spread across multiple books as well as balance issues that were never made for any semblance of matched play, play Old World.

But hey, at least Old World has skeleton archers?

Anyway, I'm excited to see how GW makes Chaos Dwarves, considering the other kinds of dwarves in AoS are in such weird spots right now.

drbored wrote:


Anyway, I'm excited to see how GW makes Chaos Dwarves, considering the other kinds of dwarves in AoS are in such weird spots right now.

Ironically, the classic CD had even less units than Fyre Slayers to chose from.
I hope they dont go back to the classic style, I always hated them. Forge World made some pretty cool models though.

 Fayric wrote:

drbored wrote:


Anyway, I'm excited to see how GW makes Chaos Dwarves, considering the other kinds of dwarves in AoS are in such weird spots right now.

Ironically, the classic CD had even less units than Fyre Slayers to chose from.
I hope they dont go back to the classic style, I always hated them. Forge World made some pretty cool models though.

Agreed. I would like to see kits that lined up better with the Hellcannon crew too. Or the handful of Chaos Dwarfs in Warcry.

Not trying to start an argument, but classic CD had a lot more units and variety than the Fyreslayers currently have.
CDs in 4th/5th had two different monstrous mounts, there were three different dwarf units (five, counting artillery), four different hobgoblin units (five, counting artillery), they could also have units of black orcs, orcs and goblins.

Personally I'd like to see chaos dwarfs in AoS, and I'll play them if they look halfway decent.

It doesn't really matter. They'll be whatever GW want's them to be. Both design and in unit size.


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Big lads getting single releases next week:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/07/sunday-preview-the-siege-of-terra-reaches-its-climax/

Been looking forward to Trugg, he seems like a fun painting project.

Soo..new style of Vanguard for a new ed?

Or an AoS style of comat patrol?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/08/spearhead-stormcast-eternals-a-reforged-army-box-to-strike-down-sigmars-foes/?utm_source=Social+Media&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=AoS&utm_content=Stormcast+Eternals&fbclid=IwAR3YMn-ml93PfNd5SjDoyzSEOrtnSw3ySmLvsUpHU_IA26ORPripd_SXELM

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Soo..new style of Vanguard for a new ed?

Or an AoS style of comat patrol?

Neither. A reboxing of old starter set halves like they've been doing ever since they finally figured out not to mix factions on one sprue.

Only Yndrasta, the Annhilators and Vexilor are from the starter.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Soo..new style of Vanguard for a new ed?

Or an AoS style of comat patrol?

Neither. A reboxing of old starter set halves like they've been doing ever since they finally figured out not to mix factions on one sprue.

It's a single frame(the "Thunderstrike Command") from the starter set, the easy-build chariot, and the non-starter set, non-easy-build Vanquishers.

It's AoS combat patrol. Bet on it.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Soo..new style of Vanguard for a new ed?

Or an AoS style of comat patrol?

Neither. A reboxing of old starter set halves like they've been doing ever since they finally figured out not to mix factions on one sprue.

Apart from starter halves being avaiable already and this not containing only those...

Also other armies getting these and starters only had 2 armies ;-)

Just typical end edition quick release. One and done

I think the Spearheads will sit alongside the Vanguard boxes.

Price will tell if they're actually a good value, but if they are 30% off like the vanguard boxes, then it's not a bad way to jumpstart.

The other big unknown is whether these boxes will be limited deals, like the various Regiments of Renown for Dawnbringers have been.

A Soulblight set, focused on Radukar The Beast, could be popular with Cursed City players.

drbored wrote:
I think the Spearheads will sit alongside the Vanguard boxes.

Price will tell if they're actually a good value, but if they are 30% off like the vanguard boxes, then it's not a bad way to jumpstart.

The other big unknown is whether these boxes will be limited deals, like the various Regiments of Renown for Dawnbringers have been.

Gw has 1 discount box as line product. No reason to think these last. They are almost quaranteed to be one and done like boarding patrol for 40k last year.

End of edition quick product to release while waiting for new edition.

I'd never fully trust what the GW social media managers actually know, but they have just replied to a comment on Instagram to say "It's here to stay" when asked if Spearhead: Stormcast Eternals is a limited release or a new addition to the range.

So I'd half expect Spearheads to be a return to the Start Collecting style boxes, a smaller, (ideally) cheaper box than the Vanguard sets intended to be a more sticker-shock friendly starting point

It's Combat Patrols. That's all it is.

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:It doesn't really matter. They'll be whatever GW want's them to be. Both design and in unit size.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Big lads getting single releases next week:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/07/sunday-preview-the-siege-of-terra-reaches-its-climax/

Been looking forward to Trugg, he seems like a fun painting project.

Just built mine (but actually going to use him in place of a giant for my big troll herd themed night goblin army for Old world)

Wonderful model- absolute pain in the butt to put together though!

Quick prices for this weeks preorders (and the Dawnbringer set prices for comparison)

Ionus £80 (CRYPTBORN'S STORMWING was £100)
Trugg £60 (TRUGG'S GREAT TROGGHERD was £90)
Belthanos £65 (BLADES OF BELTHANOS was £95)

 DaveC wrote:
Quick prices for this weeks preorders (and the Dawnbringer set prices for comparison)

Ionus £80 (CRYPTBORN'S STORMWING was £100)
Trugg £60 (TRUGG'S GREAT TROGGHERD was £90)
Belthanos £65 (BLADES OF BELTHANOS was £95)

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Ionus 10 quid too much.

I knew it was worth getting the Ionus box. Trugg and Belthanos aren't bad.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I knew it was worth getting the Ionus box. Trugg and Belthanos aren't bad.

These always are if you can afford and need rest.

I was sorely tempted but legions and i already had 4 dragons anyway and have trouble fitting them already to my lists.

Hmmm I did not need any more Stone Trolls, but finding out they would have cost me £30 for 6 still stings a bit.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hmmm I did not need any more Stone Trolls, but finding out they would have cost me £30 for 6 still stings a bit.

Yup. Having that same regret lol.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
I'd never fully trust what the GW social media managers actually know, but they have just replied to a comment on Instagram to say "It's here to stay" when asked if Spearhead: Stormcast Eternals is a limited release or a new addition to the range.

So I'd half expect Spearheads to be a return to the Start Collecting style boxes, a smaller, (ideally) cheaper box than the Vanguard sets intended to be a more sticker-shock friendly starting point

Btw that box has almost 200e worth of stuff. MORE than vanguard. Unless gw increases discount %(hah!) this hence costs more than vanguard. So not return to start collect style.