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Skaven leak, as teased by the last book

Came here to share that.

i remember the earlier leak about the box's contents had something about new plastic weapons teams, so this seems like credibility for that rumor

these seem great, tho. eager to see them assembled

I see a gunner and 4 dudes pushing....

Skaven thudd gun?

Ah, 6 barrels even. And doesn't look particularly Plague techy?

Oh that looks fun must have quick quick.

Is that a plastic Ratling Gun at last?
Or, hm, something a bit bigger? It seems to have five crew (four to carry/push it and one seated gunner) but also only one wheel.

And now I must endure the torment of a whole half a year of awesome skaven models, new releases and temptation afresh after selling off my load of unbuilt Skaven

Darn GW better have some REALLY awesome new Tyranids up their sleeve to give me some moral boost!

Oh damn, rats are finally coming

Oh, hell yes. Give me all that Clan Skryre nonsense.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Is that a plastic Ratling Gun at last?
Or, hm, something a bit bigger? It seems to have five crew (four to carry/push it and one seated gunner) but also only one wheel.

1 large wheel and 2 small ones. It's a bigwheel trike

This what it apparently should look like

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 Dragon-knight77 wrote:
This what it apparently should look like

fair bit bigger than the old weapons teams! looks great, tho. love the idea of two guys pushing the gun, but one actually piloting it. reminds me of the open-top space marine vehicles, but way lower tech

It appears to be 4 pushing, 2 on each side.

Looks good. I hope the Sigmarine side of the starter/launch box is a bust. I enjoy seeing Skaven models, but have precious little interest in actually collecting the army. Makes things easier if neither side is tempting.

Not sure what to think about that gun model. Maybe painted it will grow on me.

Won't have to find splitter for this starter. Q is do i need 2

I'm just confused what GW will add to the Stormcast and really hope they might start not putting them in the starter set. I know its "Age of Sigmar" but always having them in the starter is bloating their army a lot.

Skaven need a huge rework and update so there's a massive amount of choices to put in on their side. Stormcast - they just don't need it and might even suffer for it in terms of just having too many choices and models outperforming each other in specific roles. Let another take the lime light GW and have 2 awesome updates/big model additions to factions that need it within the range that will pulll them up

I like the design, but the gatler part seems a little low on detail from here.

Would love a starter that didn't have Stormcast. Push fit Cities of Sigmar go!

 Overread wrote:
I'm just confused what GW will add to the Stormcast and really hope they might start not putting them in the starter set. I know its "Age of Sigmar" but always having them in the starter is bloating their army a lot.

Skaven need a huge rework and update so there's a massive amount of choices to put in on their side. Stormcast - they just don't need it and might even suffer for it in terms of just having too many choices and models outperforming each other in specific roles. Let another take the lime light GW and have 2 awesome updates/big model additions to factions that need it within the range that will pulll them up

The rumour seems to be 1st edition SCE designs, Liberators and the like, will be transferred to 3rd edition Thunderstrike armour with the old designs retired. The updated Liberator designs have already been used in Realms of Ruin.

Yes I’d much rather CoS in the starter but we are likely stuck with SCE for the foreseeable.

See I was thinking Beasts of Chaos, Fyreslayers or one of the other "We've not seen anything much" armies.

Heck a second wave of Ossiarchs! Or perhaps the major faction from the Shadow Realm

 Overread wrote:
See I was thinking Beasts of Chaos, Fyreslayers or one of the other "We've not seen anything much" armies.

Heck a second wave of Ossiarchs! Or perhaps the major faction from the Shadow Realm

It won't be any of those. It's going to be Stormcast. They're in the process of converting things over to Thunderstrike. People might not like it, but that's what is happening.

New one https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/03/01/dawnbringer-chronicles-xxii-faithless/

 Overread wrote:
I'm just confused what GW will add to the Stormcast and really hope they might start not putting them in the starter set. I know its "Age of Sigmar" but always having them in the starter is bloating their army a lot.

Skaven need a huge rework and update so there's a massive amount of choices to put in on their side. Stormcast - they just don't need it and might even suffer for it in terms of just having too many choices and models outperforming each other in specific roles. Let another take the lime light GW and have 2 awesome updates/big model additions to factions that need it within the range that will pulll them up

Redone of aos 1st ed models is current rumour. Redo more in kind of newer models.

Much like 40k.

stormcast are built from the ground up to be the subscription service starter box army. i'm not sure why people keep suggesting other armies to take their place in the starter boxes when that's simply not going to happen. it's like saying 11th edition's starter box should be drukhari vs tau. like yeah that would be cool but GW have a way that they do starter boxes and they're not going to break away from it

besides, as far as "generic starter box faction" goes, i think stormcast are pretty solid. i like the designs of the stuff i got in the dominion box and if i'm able to find a good discount on this new starter box, i'm probably gonna pick it up to compliment what i already have (hope there's a model as cool as Yndrasta in the box, tho)

It's because stormcast are not as popular as space marines are relative to other AoS factions - its not uncommon for stormcast to not be featured in Christmas boxes for example. Also WHFB before it had a history of starter box diversity. I think some people think there's a likelihood that GW could go a different direction w AoS than it does with 40k, especially if other factions are proving more popular and hooking in more customers.

It's also healthy for the game, esp as GW is going for these 3 year cycles. An army only needs so many big updates and big model releases every 3 years before its bloated on both fronts. That means even fans of the army might start buying less and less.

It's less exciting to buy new models when the ones you have already are still very good sculpts.

And an army can lose favour if the new stuff is "better on the field" than other models in the range and at which point you can't or don't want to field more and more of the army because some newer stuff does what they did better on the table. Which also then makes people worry that old model ideas are going to be retired from the army.



AoS can just do so much MORE for armies that really need more updates with all those big edition release slots.
Which is the other thing. AoS isn't sitting there with lots of big fully diverse fully updated armies. They've actually got a LOT of small armies sorely needing more model variety; and armies with old models.
Skaven are a prime example they are still running around with 1st generation plastics for some and early generation metals on others. That they are getting a new edition refresh makes a LOT of sense.

I could even see GW argue that Stormcast are a good choice because they can do a few token units and spend more on the Skaven getting a BIGGER update. I don't think that will happen, but it would be another nice thought to give more room to update more of Skaven in one big go.

 Overread wrote:
It's also healthy for the game, esp as GW is going for these 3 year cycles. An army only needs so many big updates and big model releases every 3 years before its bloated on both fronts. That means even fans of the army might start buying less and less.

People keep saying that but in practice it doesn't seem to exactly work out like that...

Doesn't even matter what people on forum says as long as profits say otherwise.

And something forum talkers tend to forget that those who stay multi editions and talk at forums...We are the minority. GW keeps selling models for new guys. Those who don't have existing armies and so don't worry that they are buying redone version of existing model.

Buy army, maybe 2nd, quit, fresh meat to replace him.

(there's even this thing called natural cycle that means this has to be. Players die, move to other hobbies...If GW couldn't find new customers to sell to it would have been busted loooooooooooooong time ago)

 Overread wrote:
It's less exciting to buy new models when the ones you have already are still very good sculpts.

Luckily old Sigmarines aren't very good sculpts. As long as the range has models from before the GW monkeys touched the monolith someone found a textbook on human anatomy, GW is going to have an easy time finding something worthwhile to put in a starter box.

WHFB always had that leg up on 40k that any good vs evil pairing could be in the starter as opposed to always marines (and then 40k even doubled down do doing marines vs marines boxes)

The last starter was High Elves vs Skaven, and before that it was Dwarfs vs Goblins... good times.

Darkoath reveal - another Warhammer+ set - not a new range (yet)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/03/02/warhammer-world-anniversary-gunnar-brand-leads-the-oathbound-into-the-mortal-realms/