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chaos0xomega wrote:
Hmmm, chittering rats, the screaming peals of a distant bell....

Nope, no idea what that could be about.

Well at least there are no giant ratmen living under the cities!

So long as its backwards compatible I don't care if it's Snow White's army of forest animals.

 Overread wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Hmmm, chittering rats, the screaming peals of a distant bell....

Nope, no idea what that could be about.

Well at least there are no giant ratmen living under the cities!

Right-correct! No magnificent rat-things under man-thing-city-place. No no! All figment-imagined, yes yes.

It's those Nefarious Porpoises you have to watch out for instead....

So I just have to endure from now until Novemberish right? That's about as long as GW will torment me doing loads of art, stories, articles and awesome new models for Skaven right?

 Overread wrote:
So I just have to endure from now until Novemberish right? That's about as long as GW will torment me doing loads of art, stories, articles and awesome new models for Skaven right?

Adepticon, 20th of March. Yes-yes!

I have a feeling adepticon was meant to be where the Darkoath would have originally revealed. So now it's probably going to be book 6 and whatever else is coming with that.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
You guys know Doomfire 'locks are an optional build right?

Anyway, might as well die as the lone Doomfire enjoyer on this forum.

Yes, and the optional build is for an entirely different army.

Who actually does WYSIWYG anyway?

 Overread wrote:
So I just have to endure from now until Novemberish right? That's about as long as GW will torment me doing loads of art, stories, articles and awesome new models for Skaven right?

Huh?

Models should be out in June, with a second wave/individual kits probably around September

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Overread wrote:
So I just have to endure from now until Novemberish right? That's about as long as GW will torment me doing loads of art, stories, articles and awesome new models for Skaven right?

Huh?

Models should be out in June, with a second wave/individual kits probably around September

Yes but there's all the preview period; the leaks (already started); the stuff outside of the models and so forth; which might all start to ease off by the end of the year.


And the torment for me is I just sold all my unbuilt Skaven from the last time they did a big update to AoS and skaven (1.0 proper)

 CMLR wrote:
You guys know Doomfire 'locks are an optional build right?

Anyway, might as well die as the lone Doomfire enjoyer on this forum.

You're not the only one. I run a few units in my army.

So what's the lie going to be? That the reforging process is incurable? Or that the flaw was always deliberate?

Maybe sigmar lied about the existence of skaven just like the empire did

We also have to consider who is claiming the lie. It could be a faction or person is stating that Sigmar is telling lies so its more of a political thing than an outright fully validated lie.



A simple one would be that the Cities of Sigmar are safe havens. That people are safe within them; which leaves the story open for Skaven to erupt underneath one and perhaps even take one of the major cities or at least plunge it into total chaos and destruction.

Which would be a neat opening for a new edition of Stormcast VS Skaven.

Its not just "Sigmar lied", the full quote from WarCom is "Sigmar lied – everything has a price"
The lie that skaven don't exist doesn't make sense then and a lie that the Cities are save only kinda fits. It makes way more sense if its about the reforging process as in "there is no eternal life without a price"

Whilst not up on my AoS lore, I don’t recall Skaven being a big secret anymore?

 GaroRobe wrote:
Maybe sigmar lied about the existence of skaven just like the empire did

Skaven have never hidden or been unknown in AoS

Matrindur wrote:Its not just "Sigmar lied", the full quote from WarCom is "Sigmar lied – everything has a price"
The lie that skaven don't exist doesn't make sense then and a lie that the Cities are save only kinda fits. It makes way more sense if its about the reforging process as in "there is no eternal life without a price"

Could be, it might not seem so much a lie to readers because we tend to be a bit more aware of mechanics of the setting in some respects than characters. Ergo most now have a decent grasp that reforging comes with a cost.
I wonder if this could even be a move toward Stormcast being divided and GW's method of keeping up with models being that they'll steadily create a Fallen Stormcast or a special sect within the Stormcast who are more driven/focused/insane along the path to fighting Chaos and thus use different armour styles and so forth

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Maybe sigmar lied about the existence of skaven just like the empire did

Skaven have never hidden or been unknown in AoS

Yeah its mostly a hold-over from the Old World era and almost an OW meme in how its touted.

AoS skaven have been very overt and active since the very start. Heck the Skaven Pestilens story is one of the books that I recommend for reading as its great fun in the setting and all about a massive fight between Skaven and Stormcast atop a massive walking city

Isn’t there that one Stormcast who turned? Maybe he’s not so much “pro chaos” as “anti Sigmar” and just wants everyone to be free!*




* as long as the do what he tells them to.

What if Sigmar stole storm-tech from the skaven or cut some sort ofcdeal with them for it? IE it's actually just warp-lightning with the serial numbers filed off? Not unlike how Big E in 40k did similar to Forge the primarchs a d by extension the marines?

 Matrindur wrote:
Its not just "Sigmar lied", the full quote from WarCom is "Sigmar lied – everything has a price"
The lie that skaven don't exist doesn't make sense then and a lie that the Cities are save only kinda fits. It makes way more sense if its about the reforging process as in "there is no eternal life without a price"

No, no. Its that he made a deal with chaos to make the original 20 Prime Sigmarines, who were scattered across the mortal realms.
He had the Cities built in the places he thought they were hidden or entombed.

Sigmar has a 100 platinum pieces a day Warp Dust habit and the Skaven are his suppliers.

A lot of stress being a god.

Sigmar's lie is commiting god-tax fraud

Voss wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
Its not just "Sigmar lied", the full quote from WarCom is "Sigmar lied – everything has a price"
The lie that skaven don't exist doesn't make sense then and a lie that the Cities are save only kinda fits. It makes way more sense if its about the reforging process as in "there is no eternal life without a price"

No, no. Its that he made a deal with chaos to make the original 20 Prime Sigmarines, who were scattered across the mortal realms.
He had the Cities built in the places he thought they were hidden or entombed.

21. Even his lies have lies

I’m guessing it could be a repeat of the Doom of Kavzar.

The Dawnbringer Crusades was about establishing settlements in a wide variety of tepid and dangerous lands with limited resources. Perhaps one or more of the Cities were built with a little “hired help” that wasn’t repaid in kind.

“Everything has a price”, implies someone didn’t want to pay. That’s exactly what happened to Kavzar, and it essentially birthed the Skaven in the Old World.

 Matrindur wrote:
Its not just "Sigmar lied", the full quote from WarCom is "Sigmar lied – everything has a price"
The lie that skaven don't exist doesn't make sense then and a lie that the Cities are save only kinda fits. It makes way more sense if its about the reforging process as in "there is no eternal life without a price"

There is rumour out claiming stormcast gets chamber of stormcast who have been reforged so many times they can't be reforged again.

The lie was that he's done opening new chambers

 Overread wrote:
So I just have to endure from now until Novemberish right? That's about as long as GW will torment me doing loads of art, stories, articles and awesome new models for Skaven right?

Doesn't being in Britain also expose you to cheap partworks plasticrack? I think you might be in for a rough time way past November.

 Matrindur wrote:
Its not just "Sigmar lied", the full quote from WarCom is "Sigmar lied – everything has a price"

I'm going to be so upset if the free cake wasn't free.

Sigmar's lie?
That 3rd edition was the "bestest edition evar" and it's really going to be 4th.

Maybe the Skaven will fight stormcasts, that are deteriorating? The price that needs to be payed being sort of nurglish- immortality for the price of disease, stormcasts have their own built in aging system, like cars nowadays. Or thunder warriors in 28k years