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Gert wrote:Good god the whinging about Fists is sad. Its barely passed year one of the games new edition for crying out loud.
The Praetor was dumb yes but Jesus you people have no damn patience.

It isn't just the models. Given how much time the Fists have been given as of late in the Heresy lore, they should not have been put into this campaign. Given how its focus is on daemon engines, the Imperial factors should have been the Mechanicum alongside the Iron Hands instead.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Hope EC get another one with some rapiers in it.

May I recommend the sisters of silence greatswords? Gives them a more elegant look. Or grey knight swords if you want lots of them in one kit.

 tauist wrote:
I take it this means the upcoming MKIII resculpts will be compatible with the existing plastic weapon upgrades

I mean you'd hope so, right? I can't imagine that those kits fly off shelves, and then to go and introduce a whole new range of weapon boxes with slightly different details on the arms?

Makes far more sense to have the new Marine models be compatible with the existing weapon packs.

The frustration is that with how slow they're coming out with these things, by the time X or Y legion gets their particular upgrade, who knows how long it'll be. There will be someone complaining until every legion gets equal attention.

tbh, GW should just leave the legion-specific stuff to 3d printers and focus instead on getting the rest of the necessary range out.

But what do I know.

Why can't we go back to the good old days, when GW just kept releasing new plastic tank after new plastic tank, and all we had to complain about was a complete lack of plastic assault troops...

For real though, really keen on those assault troops. Both for the units but also different possibilities with posing. Assuming the torsos actually pull off the running without looking like the old beserkers.

drbored wrote:
The frustration is that with how slow they're coming out with these things, by the time X or Y legion gets their particular upgrade, who knows how long it'll be. There will be someone complaining until every legion gets equal attention.

tbh, GW should just leave the legion-specific stuff to 3d printers and focus instead on getting the rest of the necessary range out.

But what do I know.

I doubt a few legion specific things in resin are what’s holding up things like plastic Assault Marines. And I like the legion specific stuff. I just wish it didn’t take them 10 years to roll it out for every legion.

I really like this upgrade kit and there could be some really cool stuff for the other legions, I just hope they all get them in a reasonable timescale.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
It isn't just the models. Given how much time the Fists have been given as of late in the Heresy lore, they should not have been put into this campaign. Given how its focus is on daemon engines, the Imperial factors should have been the Mechanicum alongside the Iron Hands instead.

Two Exemplary Battles and a campaign book is too much for you?

Also, do you know why the Imperial Fists are everywhere in recent background? Because they were everywhere in the older background as well. They fortified and garrisoned as many routes to Terra as possible to stop Horus's advance because the other Legions were massacred at Isstvan or trapped behind the the Ruinstorm.
Other Legions will get their spotlight when the next Campaign book comes out so once again, I reiterate have some patience.

 Rihgu wrote:
No, characters in terminator armor have Combi-bolters, which can be traded for Banestrike Combi-bolters.

They can not be armed with Banestrike Bolters.

IoW, the feth is the thought process here?

Like, we got plastic heavy and special weapons and they come fully for a 10 man squad.

This is elite weaponry, why not go in fully with 5 /kit?

You could even sell 2 1 for terminators, the other for veterans.
But nope.

New Imperial Fists Praetor is up - £32.50


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Not Online!!! wrote:
This is elite weaponry, why not go in fully with 5 /kit?

It's how FW have always done it - look at the Phoenix Power Spears:

This set includes five Phoenix Powers Spears for Emperor’s Children Legion Characters. There are three spears wielded in two hands and one wielded one handed for Space Marines in power armour, and single power spear in a one handed grip for a Space Marine in Terminator armour. Also included are the arms needed for the two handed spears, a left power armoured arm with open hand, and on open left hand for Terminator armour.

 Gert wrote:
Also, do you know why the Imperial Fists are everywhere in recent background? Because they were everywhere in the older background as well. They fortified and garrisoned as many routes to Terra as possible to stop Horus's advance because the other Legions were massacred at Isstvan or trapped behind the the Ruinstorm.
Other Legions will get their spotlight when the next Campaign book comes out so once again, I reiterate have some patience.

It's also clearly part of GW's marketing strategy to focus on one loyalist and one traitor legion. It means the models have more unified look. Given that most of the chapter-specific stuff is FW, it really doesn't affect the plastic model range, which is what most players will buy. There is also this wonderful concept known as customisation, which involves taking stock models and converting them (a lot or a little, depending on your skill level) to make the models that you want. It's actually part of the fun of the hobby.

beast_gts wrote:
New Imperial Fists Praetor is up - £32.50


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Not Online!!! wrote:
This is elite weaponry, why not go in fully with 5 /kit?

It's how FW have always done it - look at the Phoenix Power Spears:

This set includes five Phoenix Powers Spears for Emperor’s Children Legion Characters. There are three spears wielded in two hands and one wielded one handed for Space Marines in power armour, and single power spear in a one handed grip for a Space Marine in Terminator armour. Also included are the arms needed for the two handed spears, a left power armoured arm with open hand, and on open left hand for Terminator armour.

That isn't an argument for doing it? But rather an argument to finally get a grip on nonsensery and step in to fix it.

Latest batch of rumours going around:

beast_gts wrote:
Latest batch of rumours going around:

Spoiler:

Surely the LI bit is BS, iirc we have had influencers confirming the rulebook recall, you wouldnt recall a book if you needed to make more boxes!

The last part makes sense, but I'm not sure I buy the command squad being a 30k/40k release.

Eh, looks like the usual placating of the masses to me.
Can't see anything in there that doesn't either confirm something we already know (new Mk3 and Deredeo), something blindingly obvious (other plastic Sicarans), or something to get nerd rage going (a campaign book with SoH and Fists).

Those rumors need more salt than Boston in winter.

 Original Timmy wrote:
we have had influencers confirming the rulebook recall

Really? Who said what?

Right but if that rumour is correct then peeps would have two extra months to leak all kinds of stuff. GW doesn’t mind photos of minis getting out early; it actually enhances their IP. Full pdf copies of rule books months before the official release though? Madness!

beast_gts wrote:

 Original Timmy wrote:
we have had influencers confirming the rulebook recall

Really? Who said what?

Over in the LI thread Kodos recently commented about it(see below), someone else 1st commented about the book reprint on page 87, but was vague on info, from where they got the info from!

"the details we have is from people breaking the NDA (or not taking it more relaxed)"

"Bolter and Chainsword, one of the people who got a copy talked about it when the WC announcement came up
being that GW asked them send the book back and keep the rest for later"

So i was going by that, sorry i dont have a link for the B&C thread, you will to ask Kodos for that.

There's also 6 dedicated sculptors on the Necromunda team, so that's bogus.

chaos0xomega wrote:
There's also 6 dedicated sculptors on the Necromunda team, so that's bogus.

By dedicated I assume you mean enthusiastic, not exclusive. Six people sculpt more than 2 models per quarter

I agree the rumours are bogus tho.

I mean I've never been a fan of the vehicle either but calling it a blandblade is a bit harsh. But yeah looks more like a wishlist than anything else.

Holy crap!
Not sure how long ago the Cerastus got released, but I just saw the price of it a minute ago. The poxy bastards want $335AUD for it! They're fething insane. It doesn't even make all the alternatives. It's just the bloody Lancer.
I get that it's a bit taller then the Questoris, but that doesn't equate to an extra $135 and no build options. Christ they're beyond taking the piss.

 Snrub wrote:
Holy crap!
Not sure how long ago the Cerastus got released, but I just saw the price of it a minute ago. The poxy bastards want $335AUD for it! They're fething insane. It doesn't even make all the alternatives. It's just the bloody Lancer.
I get that it's a bit taller then the Questoris, but that doesn't equate to an extra $135 and no build options. Christ they're beyond taking the piss.

Thats more a case of the Questoris Knights being cheaper than the current GW conversion rate. In £ the Questoris is £105, the Dominus is £110 and the Cerastus is £120. Meanwhile for $AUD the Questoris is $195, the Dominus $304 and the Cerastus $335.
For other examples in the order of newest to oldest release the Necron Monolith is £110 and $294, the Tau Stormsurge is £110 and $262 and the Khorne Lord of Skulls is £105 and $179
As you can see they increased the exchange rate through the years and the Questoris just uses an older exchange rate. (Though no idea why the Dominus is that much worse)

Not saying that its cheap or that the price is fine as it is, just saying the price isn't surprising

Thats also why when comparing exchange rates for new releases, you should always compare to other new releases as they do change them with time, of course its way more noticeable when it is higher in the first place

Gw hates Australia film at 11.

I never noticed GW releasing Tac squads of Mk III:

https://www.fantasywelt.de/Mailorder-Legiones-Astartes-Taktischer-Trupp-Typ-III

Are these dudes the old models from the Calth box or new ones with increased height?

Edit:
There are even Mk IV dudes:
https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/legiones-astartes-mk4-tactical-squad-2022

Are these also taller? Sorry to post this, if this should be old news as I just stumbled on it by chance.

 Strg Alt wrote:
I never noticed GW releasing Tac squads of Mk III:

https://www.fantasywelt.de/Mailorder-Legiones-Astartes-Taktischer-Trupp-Typ-III

Are these dudes the old models from the Calth box or new ones with increased height?

IMO, it's these ones (repackaged Mk III from Burning of Prospero) :

https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/legiones-astartes-mk3-tactical-squad-2022?_requestid=12985998

It'll be the old ones in the 20 man box. It's not autumn yet and that's when the new kits were getting revealed IIRC.

The Loyalist Champion Consul is definitely coming this weekend...