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 Sotahullu wrote:
Well I can finally start making some glorious BA... Angels.

Or Night Lords or World Eaters or any Legion that relies on hand to hand over shooting bolters.

Any rumor as to price? Is this 10-man box going to cost less than the regular 20-man ones, or...

 Albertorius wrote:
Any rumor as to price? Is this 10-man box going to cost less than the regular 20-man ones, or...

or... is GW, GW?

I really want some of these, but I'm dreading seeing the price, and how long it will take to restock them after the first 30 seconds online.

I'm thinking Skyhunter price band or less.

 Albertorius wrote:
Any rumor as to price? Is this 10-man box going to cost less than the regular 20-man ones, or...

£42.50 GBP (according to the trade list)

Ooof. Significantly more expensive than I was expecting.

beast_gts wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Any rumor as to price? Is this 10-man box going to cost less than the regular 20-man ones, or...

£42.50 GBP (according to the trade list)

...hm. Well, then. I mean, it is less than the £50 GBP the 20-box costs, but...

Wait. More expensive than the skyhunters. Sheesh

No One Important wrote:
Ooof. Significantly more expensive than I was expecting.

I keep seeing this and I just don't get it. Assault marines have always been almost the same price as tac marines for 5 guys. It's £7.50 more for the 10 man unit with options compared to the 5 mans jump assault intercessors with no options, so comparatively it's a great deal and the same is true compared to a resin squad previously. The Tac boxes really are the outlier here and I think that needs to be recognised.

If I can bag a 20% discount, not too awful. But I can’t see myself buying at RRP.

Dudeface wrote:

No One Important wrote:
Ooof. Significantly more expensive than I was expecting.

I keep seeing this and I just don't get it. Assault marines have always been almost the same price as tac marines for 5 guys. It's £7.50 more for the 10 man unit with options compared to the 5 mans jump assault intercessors with no options, so comparatively it's a great deal and the same is true compared to a resin squad previously. The Tac boxes really are the outlier here and I think that needs to be recognised.

TBF though HH has so far been on the plastic front priced more.. humanely?

Not Online!!! wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

No One Important wrote:
Ooof. Significantly more expensive than I was expecting.

I keep seeing this and I just don't get it. Assault marines have always been almost the same price as tac marines for 5 guys. It's £7.50 more for the 10 man unit with options compared to the 5 mans jump assault intercessors with no options, so comparatively it's a great deal and the same is true compared to a resin squad previously. The Tac boxes really are the outlier here and I think that needs to be recognised.

TBF though HH has so far been on the plastic front priced more.. humanly?

It has, it still is:

Tac squads are £35 for 10 guys, mk6 is £50 for 20.

Assault Squads were £35 for 5 guys, mk6 are £42.50 for 10.

It's funny that we think it's "cheap" only because the other regular GW prices are insane.

Dudeface wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

No One Important wrote:
Ooof. Significantly more expensive than I was expecting.

I keep seeing this and I just don't get it. Assault marines have always been almost the same price as tac marines for 5 guys. It's £7.50 more for the 10 man unit with options compared to the 5 mans jump assault intercessors with no options, so comparatively it's a great deal and the same is true compared to a resin squad previously. The Tac boxes really are the outlier here and I think that needs to be recognised.

TBF though HH has so far been on the plastic front priced more.. humanly?

It has, it still is:

Tac squads are £35 for 10 guys, mk6 is £50 for 20.

Assault Squads were £35 for 5 guys, mk6 are £42.50 for 10.

Well, humanely, it's like Heavy intercessors. just not models / units that are priced reasonable. Or forbid scions.

 Albertorius wrote:
It's funny that we think it's "cheap" only because the other regular GW prices are insane.

It's all relative and unique to each individual at the end of the day.

 Albertorius wrote:
It's funny that we think it's "cheap" only because the other regular GW prices are insane.

This is also true. Very true.

Not Online!!! wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

No One Important wrote:
Ooof. Significantly more expensive than I was expecting.

I keep seeing this and I just don't get it. Assault marines have always been almost the same price as tac marines for 5 guys. It's £7.50 more for the 10 man unit with options compared to the 5 mans jump assault intercessors with no options, so comparatively it's a great deal and the same is true compared to a resin squad previously. The Tac boxes really are the outlier here and I think that needs to be recognised.

TBF though HH has so far been on the plastic front priced more.. humanly?

It has, it still is:

Tac squads are £35 for 10 guys, mk6 is £50 for 20.

Assault Squads were £35 for 5 guys, mk6 are £42.50 for 10.

Well, humanly, it's like Heavy intercessors. just not models / units that are priced reasonable.

You're going to have to define humanly, I assume you mane humanely?

Dudeface wrote:

You're going to have to define humanly, I assume you mane humanely?

yeah.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
It's funny that we think it's "cheap" only because the other regular GW prices are insane.

This is also true. Very true.

HH is cheaper on the model front because the armies are noticeably larger.

Keeping tabs on the various tactics threads on these same boards, it's clear that current 40k armies are fairly small. Like, maybe 60-ish marines and a vehicle or two usually. Maybe 5-10 terminators.

A legion list is generally in the range of 60-80 marines at the mid to low end, and then they've generally got 6+ vehicles ontop of that.

It's interesting to see what's considered small these days. My 4th ed Marines were twenty infantry, three Dreadnoughts and two tanks at 1500 points. That was my take on small. Double the infantry for an average Marine army and adjust for another 500 points to reach the modern standard and I could see those sixty Marines and extras maybe as an average sized army, even if it feels a bit large to me.

Considering price per model has gone up by 50% or more in the meantime in addition to army size, I can see why GW would feel the need to price Horus Heresy better if they want to entice people to buy an army. Kind of glad to see them act so rationally, even if it's still on a high level as far as pricing goes. Makes me think they might have actually learned something from Warhammer Fantasy's demise.

Assault Marines Come Screaming In From the Horus Heresy Studio

The shields look bigger than I was expecting, but I don't think they're big enough for Breachers. Also, no Iron Hands or gunslingers!

Ooooh!

Now, we see here Twin Lightning Claws (therefore double fists) and Power Axes.

Why didn’t they show those off before!

Some of those look really swell. And looks like significantly more people at the studio painted these than they did Mk3s.

Still convinced that of the 3 black legions only Dark Angels pull it off, the other two are a waste of expensive plastic.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ooooh!

Now, we see here Twin Lightning Claws (therefore double fists) and Power Axes.

Why didn’t they show those off before!

I'm pretty sure the power axe on the Blood Angels is this one from the sanguinary guard kit, just cut off above the second hand:


And the one on the Emperors Children should be from the resin despoiler upgrades

Possibly, but we see others. Two in the White Scars.

Happy to be wrong as ever, but I think we might be getting them.

The EC and WS axes match the resin Despoiler kit. But I suppose a plastic Mk6 axe would, so that's inconclusive.

GW seriously missed a trick with this kit and could have really easily made it a 4 unit-multi kit. If they'd put in both left and right handed pistols we could have had destroyers. If they had non-jump pack chest options we'd have had despoilers and mortalis destroyers. An extra frame of pistols and torsos and it would have been 4 infantry kits in 1.

That being said, it's nice to see what they have included. The shields are great looking, love the mini-breacher look. Duel lightning claws is a godsend and the power axes (if they are indeed plastic) also are much needed and look delightfully chunky. I'm eagerly awaiting sprue shots

 Snrub wrote:
GW seriously missed a trick with this kit and could have really easily made it a 4 unit-multi kit. If they'd put in both left and right handed pistols we could have had destroyers. If they had non-jump pack chest options we'd have had despoilers and mortalis destroyers. An extra frame of pistols and torsos and it would have been 4 infantry kits in 1.

That being said, it's nice to see what they have included. The shields are great looking, love the mini-breacher look. Duel lightning claws is a godsend and the power axes (if they are indeed plastic) also are much needed and look delightfully chunky. I'm eagerly awaiting sprue shots

Same could be said of the Tacticals. Throw in the Special Weapon Sprue and so on.

I don’t mind paying extra for upgrades. But that opinion naturally extends no further than myself.

 Snrub wrote:
If they'd put in both left and right handed pistols we could have had destroyers.

There's a rumour that there's dual bolt pistols in the kit, but it doesn't match the description:

You get enough components to arm your squad with chainswords and either bolt pistols or combat shields, plus a range of accessories, and a Sergeant with extra weapons options and two heads.

Power Axes and Double Chainswords look like they're from the resin despoiler upgrade set